ASC Nominations!
Guillaume Schiffman, AFC (The Artist)
Jeff Cronenweth, ASC (The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo)
Robert Richardson, ASC (Hugo)
Hoyte van Hoytema, FSF, NSC (Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy)
Emmanuel Lubezki, ASC, AMC (The Tree of Life)
I do believe Ryan got 5/5 on these predictions. Hats off to you. I missed one, though in my defense Tinker Tailor was my alt.
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You rock, Ryan!!
Glad to see ‘Dragon Tattoo’ so strong with the guilds. Also, ‘TTSS’getting the recognition it so much deserves from the guilds.
as usual Cinematographers KNOW Cinema: great list! I would have liked a 6th place, Drive! This is how a Best Picture / Best Director should look like if Best meant BEST.
The Artist over War Horse?! Hollywood does not know the right path to follow at all when it comes to judging categories like this. War Horse itself was a much better movie than The Artist. At least Hugo (the better film in honoring silent pictures) was nominated. Of course my hat goes off to Emmanuel Lubezki who has yet to win an Oscar after getting ROBBED in 2006 (2007 actual time) by not winning for Children of Men (arguably the best cinematography ever in a movie, that is until he did Tree of Life). I hope either Lubezki, Richardson or Cronenweth win. Could not give a crap about the other two.
OMG Tol TTSS & TGWTDT
its SO SO right!
amazing results!
These were my picks! Though I must admit I was heavily influenced by Ryan when he picked TTSS. I thought, “Yeah, why not!” It reminds me a lot of TGWTDT in creating an atmosphere and tone. And TGWTDT was an unquestionable nominee.
“Hollywood does not know the right path to follow at all when it comes to judging categories like this”
Yeah, it’s only their bread and butter, living it 24/7.
Good list. TTSS shakes things up, which is a good thing. Thought for sure they would nominate Pfister, but he won last year. TGWTDT continues its forward movement!
And the horse race remains between Hugo and The Artist.
Excellent nominees. Thanks, ASC, you got it right this year!
Well, kudos to the cinematographers for ignoring WAR HORSE!
Close to my picks but I’ll happily take these! I’m seeing Tinker Tailor in about an Hour!
Also as a funny aside, on the other page someone was complaining that a scene in War Horse was very orange. I didn’t see War Horse and I’m not saying this to defend it, but it was very orange outside when I left my house and I thought of that. But like they told me in my creative writing classes: saying “but that is how it happened” is no defense when people say you’re writing isn’t believable. The same is surely true for film!
Way to go Ryan. Well done both to you and to ASC. I’m seriously happy with these choices.
Well, War Horse missing the cut is a surprise. Should have taken TOL spot.
Extremely delighted with the Tinker nomination! Completely deserved.
And I would have liked to have seen Moneyball and Potter make the list.
Guild Tally:
Hugo – 6
The Artist – 5
The Descendants – 5
Girl with the Dragon Tattoo – 5
Midnight in Paris – 4
The Help – 4
Bridesmaids – 4
Moneyball – 2
War Horse – 2
Harry Potter – 2
Ides of March – 1
Tree of Life – 1
Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy – 1
Drive – 0
“War Horse, wow, toast.”
Why?
This website is getting very anti-War Horse. Think about the film what you like, but it had gorgeus Cinematography. Having said this, I am happy with the ASC nominees – very happy even. It’s just that it gets old to single out this one title aka beat a dead horse (pun). It’s like when Scott rejoices every time The Tree of Life is left out of something. It sounds personal (a vendetta?). You didn’t even post the Texas Critics’ winners where War Horse won BP. I wonder…
I really hope that Spielberg wins for Tintin now.
Yikes… War Horse is f&#*@%
These are fine nominees, though I can’t say I walked away from Girl awed by the cinematography. Very happy for TTSS — still thinking about some shots in that film.
Has Richardson ever won the ASC? He’s been nominated a lot but I don’t know if he’s won.
Could this seriously be Fincher’s “make up” year?
With 5 Guild nominations it’s looking pretty damn strong…
I happen to love War Horse and feel badly that it didn’t get in for at least cinematography. And Tero is right – this site is very anti War Horse. But what can you do? There are only five slots and at least all of the nominees did good work.
@Daveylow – This is Richardson’s 10th ASC nomination and he’s never won. Lubezki has 2 prior noms, and he won for Children of Men. However, Richardson has 2 Oscars, Lubezki none.
Oops – I screwed up. Tinker Tailor also got ADG, so it has 2 guilds.
Nice, Beth. I was just about to check how the tally goes. Deakins should get one soon, too. How many ASC does he have?
And Drive got ADG, as well.
I expected a War Horse nom, having seen the film one can say it was self indulgent and just “over pretty” especially at the end damn
Guild Tally (revised):
Hugo – 6
The Artist – 5
The Descendants – 5
Girl with the Dragon Tattoo – 5
Midnight in Paris – 4
The Help – 4
Bridesmaids – 4
Moneyball – 2
Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy – 2
War Horse – 2
Harry Potter – 2
Ides of March – 1
Tree of Life – 1
Drive – 1
Tero, I don’t think it’s a personal Vendetta. War Horse was considered a sure bet for some time. When a big hitter like War Horse to miss so many vital nods, people start to talk. It just so happens that WH has been getting hit left and right since various Guilds started to show up with their noms.
Of course I’m kinda happy to see this happen since I DO have a huge problem with that film even though I actually agree that its cinematography was one if the very few highlights of that movie.
War Horse is toast because it’s a terrible movie, so terrible that the disappointment has infected the good elements of the film, preventing them from being recognized. My apologies to the cinematographer, who deserved better.
Good for TOL. Its cinematography was one of the few worthwhile aspects of that movie.
And thanks Beth for the guild tally.
Tero, by my count Deakins has been nominated 9 times for Oscar (0 wins) and 10 times for ASC (2 wins, for The Shawshank Redemption and The Man Who Wasn’t There, plus a Lifetime Achievement Award).
Beth, thanks for the info on Richardson. I wonder if they’ll be a switcheroo this year and Lubezki will get the Oscar, which he should have won for Children of Men, and Richardson will get the ASC, because he’s overdue. I guess it depends how popular Hugo is with the various industry people.
I still don’t think War Horse is toast, even though this lack of guild reception for the film is very disheartening. It depends strongly on what happens with the Academy’s preferential balloting system and whether or not they decide to have as little as 5 or as many as 10 in the race this year.
As for Dragon Tattoo, an Eddie nomination next week all but assures it’s getting nominated for Best Picture. But again, that also depends on what happens with the Academy’s preferential balloting system.
Scott asks: Could this seriously be Fincher’s “make up” year?
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I hope not but stranger things have happened.
I think The Help is going to win best picture, actress, supporting actress and adapted screenplay. Cozy time for the acad.
While guild strength indicates support, the preferential voting system could put the blocks to some assumed leaders. I think we’re still going to see some surprises after all this.
Um, ok since Bob is calling The Help I’m going to go out on a limb and say Artist wins Picture but Fincher wins Director
Best Pic: The Help
Best Director: Michel Hazanavicius
Best Actress: Viola Davis
Best Actor: George Clooney
Best Supp. Actor: C. Plummer
Best Supp. Actress: O. Spencer
Adapted Screenplay: The Help
Orig. Screenplay: Midnight in Paris
Cinema: Tree of Life
Editing: The Artist
Art Awards: Hugo
Score: Girl with Drag
I’m surprised by the bashing of WH as well, as far as I recall Sasha’s initial review (back in early december) was mostly positive, so why this sudden thrashing of the movie?
Besides, Sasha also stated that she would like to see WH win over The Artist because it is an American production…so somewhere down the line a radical shift in attitude has taken place. Maybe necessitated by the lack of guild appreciation for Spielberg? Anyhow; It’s not exactly a controversial stance to go the anti-Spielberg route right now…everybody seems happy to go along (me? I don’t care, I haven’t seen WH and I really don’t think I’m up for it…)
Scott,that sounds like a good bet…I was thinking that is the way the awards might go this year: a split pic/dir with a good chance for Fincher winning.Still,long way to go,yet…
Spoof is on the works: “The Drag Queen with the Girl Tattoo,” starring Matt Lanter!
I can’t believe they snubbed WH on this one; if the question is cinematography, that’s just objectively wrong
Also,I´d say that Hugo is looking pretty solid at the moment…
“I’m going to go out on a limb and say Artist wins Picture but Fincher wins Director”
This can happen actually. If someone should get a makeup Oscar (just a year later), well, Fincher I’m fine with. I would just think that he won for The Social Network and Seven and all those rather than Dragon Tattoo. I think about Scorsese as an Oscar winner, not as an Oscar winner for The Departed.
This scenario would leave Allen without a trophy cause Hazanavicius would get Original Screenplay.
Sure, but it’s not like he’s be undeserving of it for Dragon Tattoo…I mean Rooney Mara was basically an unknown and due to Fincher’s direction she is now a frontrunner for Best Actress. Fincher may be one of the best actors directors. He also knows how to shoot a film to maintain your interest.
*despite a somewhat weak storyline
Mara is not a frontrunner…in your dreams, scott! she might crack the top five (all the glitzy publicity on magazine covers sure help a lot), but still…
Tero: I think Allen will win original screenplay, no matter how well The Artist does in other categories. In this particular category I think Allen is a formidable force and the Academy is probably a tad too conservative to honor a silent film for screenplay, don’t you think?
This website is getting very anti-War Horse.
It’s shocking is all. As you saw I predicted it to get a guild nod for this….not anti-War Horse just don’t think it’s up to Spielberg’s level of ability…
But I’ll take out the “toast” if it will help ease the pain a bit. On the bright side, we still don’t know if AMPAS will like it – they very well might.
Nice predictions!
And a very worthy set of nominees by the ASC.
Well, as I have said before, I don’t believe that Academy should nominate War Horse. It’s not THAT good, but I like it very much.
I’m thinking SEVEN – if I could choose 7:
-The Artist (which I have not seen)
-The Descendants
-Drive
-Hugo (not seen this one yet either)
-A Separation
-The Tree of Life
-We Need to Talk About Kevin
If I could choose 7 out of the realistically possible ones:
-The Artist
-The Descendants
-The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
-Hugo
-Midnight in Paris
-The Tree of Life
-War Horse
What will probably be the actual 7:
-The Artist
-The Descendants
-The Help
-Hugo
-Midnight in Paris
-Moneyball
-The Tree of Life
To conclude, I will probably be happy about 3 or 4 titles eventually being nominated.
That may look conflicting, but I’m not a big fan of Moneyball or The Help, so what can you do?
I used to like Moneyball more, but it didn’t ‘stay’.
Again, Eduardo Serra’s beautiful work in “Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part II” goes unheralded. It was one of the most beautifully photographed films of the year and has been frustratingly ignored by ASC this year.
Nevertheless, I am pleased with the ASC list. At least the work on this list is deserving of recognition. It doesn’t contain any “WTF?” nominees.
Last year I thought Roger Deakins had the Oscar all sewn up for “True Grit”; Wally Pfister for “Inception” was a big surprise winner.
So even though Emmanuel Lubeski has won nearly all the cinematography awards available this year, it is never a done deal until that envelope is opened and read out. For my money, Lubeski deserves the Oscar this year. Aside from my comment about “Harry Potter” above, “The Tree of Life” was the best photographed film this year.
I’m sorry, but this is a travesty. As a cinematographer myself, there was no movie that was even in the vicinity of War Horse this year other than maybe the Tree of Life. I love to see Dragon Tattoo get in here, but if this is suppose to display the best work of the year than to leave this film off is like leaving off Gone with the Wind, Casablanca, or Apocalypse Now for Cinematography. This film is one of the most gorgeously shot and staged films in many years. So, it is quite depressing to see it left off for a film like The Artist. Which was shot in a very gimmicky fashion. Anybody in Hollywood could have shot The Artist and worse anybody on YouTube could have written it and put it together. The only thing impressive about The Artist are the silent performances of Jean Dujardin and Berenice Bejo. They really managed to transcend over long and quite weak material to create an enjoyable film. I have no problems with the rest of the nominees. They were all in my picks for the best Cinematography of the year.
YAY! finally Tree Of Life gets some support from a Goddamn guild! PGA AND VES should be kicking themselves for not nominating the film.
Nathan, what are you feelings towards Eduardo Serra’s work? A bit of a travesty to not include him as well?
War Horse was well shot. It also the reason the film is a misfire IMO.
A little more on the subtlety would have gone a long way.
I do agree with Mattoc.
Nathan, I am sure you would agree that cinematography should enhance the film and work hand-in-hand with the narrative; it should NOT be the entire story, as it is with War Horse, which relies on its visuals because at its core it is a dead weight, drama-free endeavor. Lovely visuals used as an aesthetic cover-up (along with John Williams’ intrusive score) for weak material should not be nominated, no matter how picture postcard pretty they may be.
And a lot of the same points apply to TOL cinematography…
Nathan – as someone who’s been watching the awards race for many years, very few films that are considered bad end up making it for cinematography just because they were beautifully shot. Most of the time the films they choose also are films they love. I’m sure you could look at this year and find films with better cinematography than any of those in the discussion. Take Shelter, for instance, had amazing cinematography. But…this is how it always goes, year after year. They are simply not going to honor a movie they didn’t like.
Hmm. War Horse bashing. Hmm.
Ryman says:
The Artist over War Horse?! Hollywood does not know the right path to follow at all when it comes to judging categories like this. War Horse itself was a much better movie than The Artist. At least Hugo (the better film in honoring silent pictures) was nominated. Of course my hat goes off to Emmanuel Lubezki who has yet to win an Oscar after getting ROBBED in 2006 (2007 actual time) by not winning for Children of Men (arguably the best cinematography ever in a movie, that is until he did Tree of Life). I hope either Lubezki, Richardson or Cronenweth win. Could not give a crap about the other two.
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I totally agree with you my friend. War Horse is better than most of these nominees. It missed ADGA,WGA,DGA. iS there any reason? Of course, they wait for Lincoln. But it is great mistake. TGWDT, TTSP – huh!huh!huh!
Tero Heikkinen
January 11, 2012 – 9:24 am | Permalink
“War Horse, wow, toast.”
Why?
This website is getting very anti-War Horse. Think about the film what you like, but it had gorgeus Cinematography. Having said this, I am happy with the ASC nominees – very happy even. It’s just that it gets old to single out this one title aka beat a dead horse (pun). It’s like when Scott rejoices every time The Tree of Life is left out of something. It sounds personal (a vendetta?). You didn’t even post the Texas Critics’ winners where War Horse won BP. I wonder…
I really hope that Spielberg wins for Tintin now.
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Let”s hope for Tintin.
this year the Oscar race can be divided in my opinion in:
Masterpieces: The tree of Life, Hugo, Drive, The Artist
good movies: The girl with The Dragon Tatoo, Moneyball, Midnight in Paris, Take Shelter, Tinker Taylor Solder Spy.
smart movies everyone will forget in one year: The Descendants, The Ides of March
The wrong movies from great directors: War Horse, J. Edgar, Extremely Loud incredibly close
The feel good movie about a “pie” or a “food poison”: The Help, Bridesmaids
The great blockbuster, to hate because is vastly Loved: Harry Potter
Think about the film what you like, but it had gorgeus Cinematography.
It wouldn’t surprise me to find out War Horse was the # on the ASC tally. It was almost my 5th pick too.
I agree with the reader who said the cinematography was one the best things about War Horse — and one of the worst things too.
it’s not being anti-Horse to point out that it’s not making the cut with any group we though it was most likely to impress.
I don’t think Fincher will win Best Director this year. Though Tattoo is obviously liked do a majority think it is the best film of the year? I just don’t think so. One of the top three films will win Best Director.
For those complaining about War Horse’s supposed snub, /Film informs me that Janusz Kaminski resigned from the ASC several years ago (whatever that means), so he may or may not have been eligible anyways. I can’t speak to the legitimacy of this info, but perhaps it could shed some light on the matter.
Zach,
I think you’ve brought up the main point of contention. If he’s not a member of the guild, then, of course he couldn’t be nominated. Don’t all guilds nominate within their own membership? In that case, Kaminski’s exclusion is understandable.
Thank God AMPAS has no regulation of this kind (that is, being an AMPAS member in order to be considered).
Schiffmann, van Hoytema are not ASC members. Also, the ASC is not a union or a guild, like the DGA, PGA or SGA.
I’m glad after the critics-sweep, Lubezki wasn’t snubbed in the end. And I also think, that though War Horse wasn’t a perfect film, its cinematography was excellent, definitely top5-worthy. I still think Kaminski will get in at the Oscars.
Although Schiffman did a good job, I think there were considerably stronger, more worthy achievements in 2011 : War Horse, Harry Potter, Jane Eyre.
I really hope that Tin Tin will win too!
congratulations to all the nominees. now i’m rooting for hugo.
cinematography
adventures of tin-tin
hugo
tinker tailor soldier spy
tree of life
war horse, for oscars
Dragoneer,
Thank you for clarifying about ASC membership. I always assumed that it was a guild. My bad. God, I’ve learned all kinds of motion picture facts on this site!
I do think War Horse may sneak in there for an Oscar nomination for Best Cinematography. Kaminski is well respected.
The one he will upset: Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy
I liked the film (a lot), but I don’t understand its cinematography recognition (to me it was simply very grainy (unnecessarily) and contained some rather mundane and easy shots (lots of closeups).
I was more impressed with the film’s editing than its cinematography.
Just my opinion. War Horse should get its Oscar spot.