The Artist, Hugo & Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy lead 2012 BAFTA Nominations
The Artist receives 12 nominations. Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy is nominated in 11 categories, Hugo has nine nominations, My Week with Marilyn has six nominations and The Help and War Horse are each nominated five times.
BEST FILM
- THE ARTIST – Thomas Langmann
- THE DESCENDANTS – Jim Burke, Alexander Payne, Jim Taylor
- DRIVE – Marc Platt, Adam Siegel
- THE HELP – Brunson Green, Chris Columbus, Michael Barnathan
- TINKER TAILOR SOLDIER SPY – Tim Bevan, Eric Fellner, Robyn Slovo
DIRECTOR
- THE ARTIST – Michel Hazanavicius
- DRIVE Nicolas – Winding Refn
- HUGO – Martin Scorsese
- TINKER TAILOR SOLDIER SPY – Tomas Alfredson
- WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT KEVIN – Lynne Ramsay
LEADING ACTOR
- BRAD PITT – Moneyball
- GARY OLDMAN – Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy
- GEORGE CLOONEY – The Descendants
- JEAN DUJARDIN – The Artist
- MICHAEL FASSBENDER – Shame
LEADING ACTRESS
- BÉRÉNICE BEJO The Artist – Film
- MERYL STREEP – The Iron Lady
- MICHELLE WILLIAMS – My Week with Marilyn
- TILDA SWINTON – We Need to Talk About Kevin
- VIOLA DAVIS – The Help
SUPPORTING ACTOR
- CHRISTOPHER PLUMMER – Beginners
- JIM BROADBENT – The Iron Lady
- JONAH HILL – Moneyball
- KENNETH BRANAGH – My Week with Marilyn
- PHILIP SEYMOUR HOFFMAN – The Ides of March
SUPPORTING ACTRESS
- CAREY MULLIGAN – Drive
- JESSICA CHASTAIN – The Help
- JUDI DENCH – My Week with Marilyn
- MELISSA MCCARTHY – Bridesmaids
- OCTAVIA SPENCER – The Help
OUTSTANDING BRITISH FILM
- MY WEEK WITH MARILYN – Simon Curtis, David Parfitt, Harvey Weinstein, Adrian Hodges
- SENNA – Asif Kapadia, James Gay-Rees, Tim Bevan, Eric Fellner, Manish Pandey
- SHAME – Steve McQueen, Iain Canning, Emile Sherman, Abi Morgan
- TINKER TAILOR SOLDIER SPY – _Tomas Alfredson, Tim Bevan, Eric Fellner, Robyn Slovo, Bridget O’Connor, Peter Straughan
- WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT KEVIN – Lynne Ramsay, Luc Roeg, Jennifer Fox, Robert Salerno, Rory Stewart Kinnear
OUTSTANDING DEBUT BY A BRITISH WRITER, DIRECTOR OR PRODUCER
- ATTACK THE BLOCK – Joe Cornish (Director/Writer)
- BLACK POND – Will Sharpe (Director/Writer), Tom Kingsley (Director), Sarah Brocklehurst (Producer)
- CORIOLANUS – Ralph Fiennes (Director)
- SUBMARINE – Richard Ayoade (Director/Writer)
- TYRANNOSAUR – Paddy Considine (Director), Diarmid Scrimshaw (Producer)
DOCUMENTARY
- GEORGE HARRISON: LIVING IN THE MATERIAL WORLD – Martin Scorsese
- PROJECT NIM – James Marsh, Simon Chinn
- SENNA – Asif Kapadia
ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY
- THE ARTIST – Michel Hazanavicius
- BRIDESMAIDS – Annie Mumolo, Kristen Wiig
- THE GUARD – John Michael McDonagh
- THE IRON LADY – Abi Morgan
- MIDNIGHT IN PARIS – Woody Allen
ADAPTED SCREENPLAY
- THE DESCENDANTS – Alexander Payne, Nat Faxon, Jim Rash
- THE HELP – Tate Taylor
- THE IDES OF MARCH – George Clooney, Grant Heslov, Beau Willimon
- MONEYBALL – Steven Zaillian, Aaron Sorkin
- TINKER TAILOR SOLDIER SPY – Bridget O’Connor, Peter Straughan
FILM NOT IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE
- INCENDIES – Denis Villeneuve, Luc Déry, Kim McGraw
- PINA – Wim Wenders, Gian-Piero Ringel
- POTICHE – François Ozon, Eric Altmayer, Nicolas Altmayer
- A SEPARATION – Asghar Farhadi
- THE SKIN I LIVE IN – Pedro Almodóvar, Agustin Almodóvar
ANIMATED FILM
- HE ADVENTURES OF TINTIN: THE SECRET OF THE UNICORN – Steven Spielberg
- ARTHUR CHRISTMAS – Sarah Smith
- RANGO – Gore Verbinski
ORIGINAL MUSIC
- THE ARTIST – Ludovic Bource
- THE GIRL WITH THE DRAGON TATTOO – Trent Reznor, Atticus Ross
- HUGO Howard – Shore
- TINKER TAILOR SOLDIER SPY – Alberto Iglesias
- WAR HORSE – John Williams
CINEMATOGRAPHY
- THE ARTIST – Guillaume Schiffman
- THE GIRL WITH THE DRAGON TATTOO – Jeff Cronenweth
- HUGO – Robert Richardson
- TINKER TAILOR SOLDIER SPY – Hoyte van Hoytema
- WAR HORSE – Janusz Kaminski
EDITING
- THE ARTIST – Anne-Sophie Bion, Michel Hazanavicius
- DRIVE – Mat Newman
- HUGO – Thelma Schoonmaker
- SENNA – Gregers Sall, Chris King
- TINKER TAILOR SOLIDER – SPY Dino Jonsater
PRODUCTION DESIGN
- THE ARTIST – Laurence Bennett, Robert Gould
- HARRY POTTER AND THE DEATHLY HALLOWS – PART 2 – Stuart Craig, Stephenie McMillan
- HUGO – Dante Ferretti, Francesca Lo Schiavo
- TINKER TAILOR SOLDIER SPY Maria Djurkovic, Tatiana MacDonald
- WAR HORSE – Rick Carter, Lee Sandales
COSTUME DESIGN
- THE ARTIST – Mark Bridges
- HUGO – Sandy Powell
- JANE EYRE – Michael O’Connor
- MY WEEK WITH MARILYN – Jill Taylor
- TINKER TAILOR SOLDIER SPY – Jacqueline Durran
SOUND
- THE ARTIST – Nadine Muse, Gérard Lamps, Michael Krikorian
- HARRY POTTER AND THE DEATHLY HALLOWS – PART 2 – James Mather, Stuart Wilson, Stuart Hilliker, Mike Dowson, Adam Scrivener
- HUGO – Philip Stockton, Eugene Gearty, Tom Fleischman, John Midgley
- TINKER TAILOR SOLDIER SPY – John Casali, Howard Bargroff, Doug Cooper, Stephen Griffiths, Andy Shelley
- WAR HORSE – Stuart Wilson, Gary Rydstrom, Andy Nelson, Tom Johnson, Richard Hymns
SPECIAL VISUAL EFFECTS
- THE ADVENTURES OF TINTIN: THE SECRET OF THE UNICORN – Joe Letteri
- HARRY POTTER AND THE DEATHLY HALLOWS – PART 2 – Tim Burke, John Richardson, Greg Butler, David Vickery
- HUGO – Rob Legato, Ben Grossman, Joss Williams
- RISE OF THE PLANET OF THE APES – Joe Letteri, Dan Lemmon, R. Christopher White
- WAR HORSE – Ben Morris, Neil Corbould
MAKE UP & HAIR
- THE ARTIST – Julie Hewett, Cydney Cornell
- HARRY POTTER AND THE DEATHLY HALLOWS – PART 2 – Amanda Knight, Lisa Tomblin
- HUGO Morag – Ross, Jan Archibald
- THE IRON LADY – Marese Langan
- MY WEEK WITH MARILYN – Jenny Shircore
SHORT ANIMATION
- ABUELAS – Afarin Eghbal, Kasia Malipan, Francesca Gardiner
- BOBBY YEAH – Robert Morgan
- A MORNING STROLL – Grant Orchard, Sue Goffe
SHORT FILM
- CHALK – Martina Amati, Gavin Emerson, James Bolton, Ilaria Bernardini
- MWANSA THE GREAT – Rungano Nyoni, Gabriel Gauchet
- ONLY SOUND REMAINS – Arash Ashtiani, Anshu Poddar
- PITCH BLACK HEIST – John Maclean, Gerardine O’Flynn
- TWO AND TWO – Babak Anvari, Kit Fraser, Gavin Cullen
ORANGE WEDNESDAYS RISING STAR AWARD
- ADAM DEACON
- CHRIS HEMSWORTH
- TOM HIDDLESTON
- CHRIS O’DOWD
- EDDIE REDMAYNE
Drive, The Iron Lady and Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows – Part 2 have four nominations. The Descendants, Moneyball, Senna
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For those that are still up and want to watch Harry Potter and some other chick with Hermione’s last name read out the nominations live, here’s a link:
http://www.bafta.org/film/awards/nominations-announcement,2537,BA.html
Come on, BAFTA, give us some neat surprises.
That guy’s not Tim Curry. Pfft.
PSH? That’s surprising.
I don’t understand how they couldn’t manage to nominate anyone else from TTSS, with that cast. Because honestly John Hurt should be taking acting lessons from Jonah Hill, right?
No HUGO? lol Okay.
I love that Phillip Seymour Hoffman got nominated here! My favorite supporting performance this year and I thought he was going to go completely unrecognized all season!
War Horse will get more than 8 nods
Hugo, War Horse, Dragon Tattoo all snubbed in the big categories
The Iron Lady for screenplay? That is appalling.
Drive!!! best picture
They loved Drive, but not Albert Brooks. Interesting…
No Albert Brooks? They nominate almost EVERYTHING for Drive except Albert Brooks? WTF BAFTA?! Now Brooks’ chances of winning are no good now. Congrats Plummer, you just won yourself an Oscar for playing the most boring role of 2011.
garbage plain and simple
how are you all seeing the rest? link?
They nominate Marty, but not Hugo. Jeez.
Nice for Carey Mulligan and Tilda. We Need to Talk About Kevin did really well.
Full List:
http://www.bafta.org/film/awards/nominees-winners-2012,2449,BA.html
Tree of Life is officially dead…not even a Cinematography nod for Lubezki
I just hate it when any organization seems to favor a handful of films and just ticks off all the categories for it. That’s what it seemed like happened with MONEYBALL. The sad part is if I was forced to nominate someone for acting in that film it would have been PSH.
It’s a pity Carey got in for Drive and not Shame
I thought I heard MB for BP. XD Nevermind. I’m half asleep.
For some reason, I think these nominees will have very little effect on Oscars. Less than usually. Well, actors aside – they need that exposure.
Drive for most majors but no Brooks or Gosling…
11 nominations for Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy! Awesome. I hope BAFTA’s lead actor nominees match those of the Oscars. So happy I’m willing to condone the fact that Iron Lady’s nominated for best screenplay.
The fact that The Artist got literally nominated for everything makes me think Harvey is running the BAFTAs as well.
It’s a pity Carey got in for Drive and not Shame
Do you think they get paranoid about favoritism? Like nominating the British girl in the British movie is a bit too much so they pick her other movie instead?
Hahaha, 3 acting nods for My Week with Marilyn! Hahahahaha…
THE IRON LADY: Lead Actress, Supporting Actor, Original Screenplay Make-up
MY WEEK WITH MARILYN: British Film, Lead Actress, Supporting Actor, Supporting Actress, Costume, Make-up
WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT KEVIN: British Film, Directing, Lead Actress
Three bad movies elevated by their lead performances (and in Tilda’s case I don’t see nothing more than craft). I hope the Academy nominates the acting and ignores everything else about these movies as it probably will.
I’d say:
THE IRON LADY – Lead Actress, Make-up (is Broadbent a longshot possibility?, Costumes possible)
MY WEEK WITH MARILYN – Lead Actress, Supporting Actor (Costumes a possibility)
WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT KEVIN – Lead Actress (nothing else)
Predictions for BAFTA
Film – THE ARTIST
Direction – Hanazavaicious
Actor – DuJardin
Actress – Streep
Supporting Actor – Plummer
Supporting Actress – Spencer
Original Screenplay – The Artist
Adapted Screenplay – The Descendants
Cinematography – The Artist
Editing – Drive
Production Design – Hugo
Costumes – The Artist
Make-up/Hair – The Iron Lady
Sound – Hugo
Effects – Harry Potter
Animated – Rango
They didn’t nominate Carey for Shame because se was shortlisted as lead actress for that movie.
Best sound for The Artist??
That is a bit of a stretch.
The sound effects in the film lasted for about less than one minute.
The love for The Artist has gone out of control. Give me a break, the best sound??
I would not take BAFTA too seriously. They always try to have influence on Oscars every year.
Lenny, Hugo was nominated for Best Director. That is a major catagory.
These are so crazy it’s kind of funny. I mean Drive got so many nominations but was snubbed for screenplay and for Brooks (not to mention Gosling). We Need to Talk About Kevin got director, picture and lead actress nominations but no screenplay. Iron Lady got a ridiculous nomination for it’s screenplay but no nomination for best film or best british film. The Help and The Descendants were both snubbed for director. Hugo has 9 nominations, but was snubbed from best pic.
It’s like someone threw the long list in a blender and this is what came out of it. There’s no rhyme or reason to it at all. Lol.
Ok. Thanks, Diego.
Ryan, Harvey is not running the BAFTA. It is the British voters who want to be part of the influence of Academy Awards.
Well, Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy is going to get some award’s love after all. It was obvious the movie was going to score some BAFTA noms, but 11? Holy shit, that’s some great news. Nice to see Mulligan nominated, too bad she scored for the wrong movie. Also Philip Seymour Hoffman is a very nice surprise.
Things we learned:
- Brooks is oficially dead. Congratulations Mr Plummer
- Oldman might still be in the game for an Oscar nom.
- Tree of Life – DEAD!!!
- The Artist is unstopable (12 noms)
IMHO even if Streep scores here and even snatches the SAG, she will probably not win the Oscar. You could see that she actually doesn’t want to win at the Golden Globes. All she has to do is drop some more S-bombs and F-bombs, act weird and praise Viola Davis. She’s doing ok right now, and really curious if it’ll work.
But how do you influence people to think what they’re already thinking?
The Good:
* Drive for Picture and Director
* War Horse and Tree of Life snubbed, and, at this point, dead
* The Skin I Live in for Foreign Film
The Bad:
* Hugo misses the cut for Picture
* The Help continues to get nominated for Picture (solid performances, but an overrated movie)
* Deathly Hallows only picks up technicals (am I the only person who thinks this was the best of the mainstream films that were in the BP conversation?!)
Doesn’t affect my perspective of the overall race… Artist the frontrunner with The Descendants and Hugo in a dead heat for second place.
Squasher88,
Thanks very much.
You had the full list 5 minutes before I got the press release.
Apart from their love for “Drive”, the nominations are quite boring and Oscar-like. It’s becoming more and more tiring to follow these things.
The upcoming PGA/DGA/WGA award is way more important than BAFTAS!!
“Best sound for The Artist??
That is a bit of a stretch.
The sound effects in the film lasted for about less than one minute.”
I read that too. Now I love The Artist, but the Sound one makes me scratch my head.
Thank you BAFTA for 5 nominations for The Help! Including Best Film! YAYYYYYYYYY
I also support the opinion that BAFTA power is almost completely restrained in the US, Oscar voters would care more about what happens at the Globes and the SAGs.
Yeah, but HUGO is not nominated for best film. Just saying.
So they completely ignore the biggest
and most loved film that will ever come out of thier country. What a joke. Biggest slap in the face than the other snubs they had this year.
And Jonah Hill, really? Oh god.
I don’t think Oscar voters care so much about Golden Globes or BAFTAS. SAG,PGA,DGA,WGA have more influence since they are part of the film industry here in the U.S.
@Rob Y
The sound effect nomination for The Artist is ridiculous.
Kinda rude to make Harry Potter do those announcements now that I think about it. That’s okay he was great on SNL. If they don’t want him, we’ll keep him. And they can throw in Tom Hardy while they’re at it, since there’s clearly no love there.
Honestly I quite like these nominations, better than the Globes anyway. Although it would have been nice to see something major for Potter and I can’t believe Redgrave didn’t make it for Supporting Actress.
This season was going great, with plenty of buzz for a variety of actors/movies but as soon as all the nominations started coming through, 50% of the movies just disappeared!
I think the Harry Potter snubs are especially hurtful considering who was reading the nominations. I mean what were they thinking with that one? Maybe the Oscars should have Glenn Close read out the nominees just to see what she does if Albert Nobbs gets shut out.
GoOnNow, I don’t think anybody has really cared about the Globes since about 2003.
Bafta’s are what they are but at least they have some crossover. Not as important as the Guilds obviously(except the WGA, which can sometimes be important and sometimes not depending on what films they say are not eligable) but moreso than the Globes.
They had to push out HUGO and nominated their own UK Tinker Taylor to show that they have not forgotten about their own “British” films,,lol.
They’ve always wanted it both ways. They want to predict and be part of the influence of the Oscars, and at the same time, they want to recognize their own films. I have always thought BAFTA awards were sort of a pseudo award organization. They see American films as if they are part of UK film industry. They just want to jump on the Hollywood bandwagon and be part of this whole Oscar season.
They nominated Scorsese without nominating it for best picture????
The Artist for best sound??
Oh well. I would focus on PGA,DGA,WGA. I would forget about the BAFTAS.
Not surprised by the snubs for War Horse(although it did score five noms which is good), TGWTDT, or Hugo for Best Picture! They dont know how to nominate the best films of the year! They much rather go for a sappy The Help, a too artistic bore Drive, a boring Tinker Tailor, and a useless drama The Descendants!
The crossover between BAFTA and AMPAS is not as big as one thinks. If it was, Titanic would have swept.
“They dont know how to nominate the best films of the year! They much rather go for a sappy The Help, a too artistic bore Drive, a boring Tinker Tailor, and a useless drama The Descendants!”
That’s a bit extreme, I would not say they don’t know how to nominate films.
Drive is too artistic. The Descendants is not a useless drama.
So are you going to criticize PGA, DGA, and WGA for nominating films like The Descendants?
It’s hard to take BAFTA seriously with not even one nomination for TOL (the cinematography snub is just plain baffling!) and a screenplay nod for one of the most poorly constructed and executed script I have ever come across in a major film; The Iron Lady…I mean, come the fuck on!
i thought colman would make the cut.
so happy to see hugo n TGWDT out of the race and drive in. i told you TGWTD is like dark knight only guilds and no major nominations elsewhere.
dujardin will win actor here and nice to imagine oscar too.
hugo won’t win best picture at oscars now, artist will and also director.
would love to see carey take a slot in oscars.
I hope the Oscar voters could show to BAFTA this year that “Don’t try to predict how we will vote”
Iron Lady??
Best sound for The Artist?
Give me a break.
@RobertlowercaseA. You should come and work for the British tabloids, you are so good at trying to create a story out of nothing. Bafta does not care about or try to influence the Oscars and The Academy is not influenced by Bafta at all, if you do your homework, you will know that the Oscar nominations deadline for ballots is long before the Bafta nominations are announced and the Oscar ballots are in long before the Bafta awards are announced, so not sure how YOU think Bafta is trying to influence the Oscars. Talk about a non story. But then, you most probably believe that every single one of the 6000 Bafta members voted for every single nomination that was announced this morning.
Robert, I was talking about crossover in members not winners. There are quite a few members of the Academy that vote for the Baftas. Nobody who votes for the Globes is a member.
“Bafta does not care about or try to influence the Oscars and The Academy is not influenced by Bafta at all”
I agree with you about the latter, but it doesn’t matter when the deadline is, they can still vote the American way which they have been doing it for years. BAFTA is an UK organization, they nominate mostly American films, and they have their own “Best British Film” category. The fact that they nominate nearly 100 percent American films means they just try to be part of Hollywood. BAFTA has a history of that,,
Now I’m not saying the Baftas mean much just that the Globes really mean next to nothing. To many Brits the Bafta’s mean more than the Oscars. They are their own thing. They could care less about what affect they have on the Academy really. The only reason they have any meaning is because they have some of the same members.
You really have it out for the BAFTA’s huh? They must have snubbed a movie you like.
CraigZ, I knew you were talking about the crossover in terms of voters,,,
There are numbers that prove that crossover is pretty high. I’m on my phone so I can’t look it up but it sure as hell is higher than the Globes which is zero.
Now the Globes used to be thought of as a good indicator of the Oscars but not since about 2004.
CraigZ, you are missing my point. I have never cared much about BAFTAS. Why don’t they just nominate their own UK films?
They didn’t snub films I wanted to win, I just don’t care much about BAFTA. I think they should nominate their own films from UK instead of trying to be part of Hollywood. If they don’t care about the Oscars, then why do they nominate American films every year as if Hollywood is their film industry.
The Academy nominates plenty of British films……
“There are numbers that prove that crossover is pretty high.”
I have heard it is about 500 to 1000 members, but I don’t think one can really find out exactly how many members are both BAFTA and AMPAS members.
Yes, but majority of the films the AMPAS nominate are still American films mostly.
That’s pretty goddam high Robert. More that is in the DGA…. Or any guild except the SAG.
I don’t remember exactly, that is just a rough number.
No one can really confirm how many members are both AMPAS and BAFTA
Really odd nominations to say the least. They nominate Drive but no Gosling or Brooks. but nominate Mulligan who really should be there for Shame. No Olivia Colman?!!! I kinda liked The Help but nominate it instead of Harry Potter! I mean that’s a British film for goodness sake! And although Tinker Taylor Soldier Spy deserves some credit I’d much rather was Hugo nominated. What were they smoking this year!
That’s because we produce many many times more films than any other country in the world.
@Ryan No problem, I’m a big nerd.
“Maybe the Oscars should have Glenn Close read out the nominees just to see what she does if Albert Nobbs gets shut out.”
LMFAO, that’s funny as hell. They should have her announce them with Rooney Mara, who is likely to upset her. Just to see how Glenn keeps her composure.
It’s very, very bizarre that The Descendants was best picture nominated while only receiving best actor and best adapted screenplay nominations… Hugo received a director nomination and dominated the tech rewards and yet no best picture? WEIRD WEIRD WEIRD. Just a weird awards season.
The supporting actor category is a disaster. Seriously, I’m happy Christopher Plummer is going to sweep this year because he easily gives the best performance in that category. I liked Branagh as well but Hill, Hoffman, and Broadbent. Um, no. As fine an actor as Broadbent is, I have no idea what his purpose was in The Iron Lady. And that’s frankly due to the convoluted script. And lucky us, BOTH are nominated! GAG
Speaking of the Iron lady, Marilyn, The Help, The Artist, and Kevin all received a lot of love this morning. It will be interesting to see who takes best actress, but I’m guessing Meryl wins it.
As much love as Tinker Tailor received and even though it’s a British film, I still think The Artist will win picture. Director will be interesting, considering Hugo isn’t nominated for best picture, which may damper Scorsese’s chances.
I wish people would stop bitching about the sound nomination for “The Artist” and learn what the category is all about. This is not sound effects, this is sound. Learn the difference and then write your comments.
Koles.
Best sound does mean sound effects. The Artist is a 99 percent silent film.
Best sound means the sound effects that are used in a scene, including Foley sound effects, dialogue, it is self explanatory. If you don’t know what it means, go on google and find out what it means. The Artist has like 1 minute of sound effects(the dream sequence. We know what the category is about, it is best sound, and The Artist is a silent film. I wish you would do some research before you try to justify how ridiculous the BAFTA sound nod for The Artist.
Why have poor Dan Radcliffe announce the nominations if his film is completely snubbed. What a dick move.
There is a difference between Sound Effects and Sound Editing,too.
@CraigZ
Here is what I found on Gold Darby/LATimes about the over lapping members of both AMPAS and BAFTA, no one can conclude how many:
First off, what’s the overlap between BAFTA and Oscars voters? “We don’t know, of course. It’s hard to find out,” Parfitt said, but he offered some helpful information. Oscars consultants estimate that there are about 500 Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences members in the U.K. — surely, they’re almost all BAFTA members too. Add to that many of the BAFTA members living in the U.S. “We’ve got 1,200 members between L.A. and New York,” Parfitt says.
@Koles
Best Sound means sound mixing.
Here is the definition of best sound mixing from Wikipedia, so the bitching of the BAFTA sound nomination is legit.
“The Academy Award for Sound Mixing is an Academy Award that recognizes the finest or most euphonic sound mixing or recording, and is generally awarded to the production sound mixers and re-recording mixers of the winning film. ”
The Artist is a silent film. Go figure!
Sad for Hugo, but elated over Tinker Tailor. Hope this love for the masterful spy hunt film crosses the Atlantic. But why the snub over Tyrannosaur’s leads? Peter Mullan’s best performance overlooked by BAFTA, unbelievable. And Olivia Colman too was fantastic.
And no Tree of Life anywhere. Wretched!
Robert, so even on a low estimate the Bafta crossover is bigger than any guild but the SAG…
Okay, Harvey is DEFINITELY running the BAFTAs if The Artist got nominated for Best Sound. I mean… seriously?! I bet the BAFTAs are now realizing: “Oh shit! We forgot to nominate The Artist for Best Visual Effects!” Just plain stupid.
Also I still can’t get over Brooks being snubbed. Yes, I am aware that it did get nominated for the bigger awards like Best Picture and Director but Brooks was one of the best things about that movie and instead they nominated Carey Mulligan for Supporting Actress instead of Brooks for Supporting Actor? More bullshit please!
Interesting seeing Bejo get a lead nomination here. She seems to be mentioned in supporting categories elsewhere, but I wonder if category confusion will prevent her from a nomination at the Oscars?
I’m starting to think Swinton has the fourth Best Actress spot locked up. Streep/Davis/Williams are all locks, so it’s them, Swinton and anyone’s guess as the fifth nominee. The side menu has Close (her buzz has totally evaporated), Olsen (ditto), Theron (nobody seemed to like the movie very much) and Mara as the other potential candidates, and of those four, Mara seems to have the best chance. Still lots of room for a darkhorse nominee here…Adepero Oduye? Kristen Wiig? Anna Paquin? Vera Farminga? Man, talk about some major No Guts, No Glory picks here.
PGA has about 12000 to 15000 members, DGA has about the same, SAG has about 20000 members, but only a small fraction of each group of its membership over laps the membership of AMPAS. All the members of Academy Awards are mostly guild members. Like I said, they are some overlapping between BAFTAs and Oscars, but no one knows for sure how many.
RE: The Artist & sound. Well I’m assuming all of you heard the score. If I’m not mistaken, that is sound. So the score was nominated twice, for original music and for sound. That’s how I’m rationalizing the whole thing so that I can live with it.
James, there is one scene where there is sound. The nightmare of Valentine, it lasts about 1 minute.
I was really hoping for Vanessa Redgrave to be nominated for the BAFTAs at lest. But good to see Mulligan and Dench get in.
Why are you telling me how big the Guilds are? I’m talking about how many of them are in the Academy…. very few. Sure we don’t know how many of the Baftas are in the Academy but all the evidence YOU have given me points to the idea that it is pretty damn big.
@RobertlowercaseA
“Best sound does mean sound effects.” “Best Sound means sound mixing.”
So which one is it? I clearly see that; 1. you don’t know the difference between the two; 2. You have a very primitive view of a movie soudtrack. If it’s a film that is branded silent then no sound awards are applicable. Total bullshit.
The movie has sound effects, the movie has a soundtrack, the movie had a downmix and final mix. I guess you don’t consider music to part of the sound category, but guess what, it is. Composers compose, but sound editors, designers and recording specialists do all the work. Believe me, Ludovic Bource was not responsible for the final sound mix of the movie. The sound artists were.
And please don’t bring me this crap from wikipedia. As far as I know you could have put it there yourself.
Here is a thing from a more reliable source, which is the Rules & Eligibility of the AMPAS. However this point concernes sound editing not sound mixing it still might give you some insight on what these people do.
“Eligibility for this award shall be limited to the Supervising Sound Editor directly involved in and primarily responsible for the planning, creation, direction, and execution of the sound design and editing for each achievement. The Supervising Sound Editor must be the primary creative decision maker and principal interpreter of the director’s vision to the sound editing team. The Supervising Sound Editor must approve the sound effects and their specific placement in the film, coordinate the creation of newly designed sound and Foley effects, and coordinate the editing of dialogue and ADR. The Supervising Sound Editor must oversee the recording of the pre-dubs and be present at the final mix. In the event the above responsibilities are divided, both co-supervisors must adhere to the above criteria.”
Go and read some more on the Rules & Eligibility.
Woah, the Supporting Actor race is a complete mess this year.
I believe you Koles.
And Wikipedia is shutting down for a day tomorrow. Damn, I’m working on a big project.
If that is the way you justify its sound mixing nomination, so be it. Your attempt to rationalize is so obvious. Best sound in general refers to sound mixing when it comes to award season. If that was the case, then a lot of documentaries would have been nominated for best sound. I don’t think you know what the differences are. Now, you just quoted something that is entirely different, sound editing. You clearly don’t know the difference.
You are obviously lack of basic common sense and logic, and you dwell too much in defending The Artist. If the Artist was nominated for visual effects, and people bitched about it, you would have probably attack the “whiners” the same way.
Best sound nomination for a silent film,uh?
According to your lame excuse, they might as well create another category “best sound for soundtrack recording”.
“However this point concernes sound editing not sound mixing it still might give you some insight on what these people do.”
Ah ha, there you go. You do know there is a difference between Best Sound and Best Sound Ediing,uh?
It still might give you some insight?
No, there are quite different, that is why they are two different categories.
Ever heard of pro logic? I got a film degree, and I used the pro logic to do the sound editing with different layers of sound to create the entire sequence.
Go ask people who actually know what they are talking about, thanks.
Go Gary Oldman!
I was talking about the overlapping membership which no one can find out how many, CraigZ.
If it was that big, how come Titanic didn’t win anything at BAFTAS?
booooooo
no TGWTDT
oh yeah 2 noms
thx very much
& only men for Orange rising star award!?
Where’s Felicity Jones!????????
what a shame!
Forget about the BAFTAS.
Let’s focus on PGA,DGA,SAG, and WGA here in the U.S
Strange to see Brooks not in with Drive as BP and Director
Strange to see Ramsey in the Best Director slot but very happy for her- I liked that film alot
As great as Seymour Hoffman is, Ides was not his best performance. Gosling was way better
And yes The Artist does not belong anywhere near the sound category. Best Lack of Sound maybe
Glad that War Horse didnt shine
The numbers are obviously big Robert. Everything you have told me says that it is at least 500. That is more than any single branch of the Academy accept the Actors Branch. That is fact.
This is the Bafta’s result thread….. What do you expect people to talk about?????
@RobertlowercaseA
“You are obviously lack of basic common sense and logic,”
You are right. A movie that has a final-mix of effects and music should not be even considered in the sound category. The only movies nominated should be the ones with the most explosions and gunshots. That makes sense and is very logical.
“you dwell too much in defending The Artist. If the Artist was nominated for visual effects, and people bitched about it, you would have probably attack the “whiners” the same way.”
That’s a very convenient way of dissing my arguments. Just call me an Artist-lover, why don’t you. Then all of my arguments concerning the general rules about a movie’s soundtrach will be invalid. Way to go, logic and common sense score again.
Two years back people were bitching about “The Hurt Locker” being nominated for Best Visual Effects by the BAFTA. I guess it’s the same primitive notion behind all of this. Visual Effects = CGI. Sound = dialogue, bangs and cracks.
It is not “obviously” big, but we are talking about 500 versus 6000 voters, there are other branches
I am not disputing the fact with you, but i would not say 500 is huge.
Whats with all the whining and bitching about these nominations? Lets face it Oscar is FAR from perfect. Category fraud anyone? Preference for home grown talent over superior performances (happens all the time). This year has been a bad year for film. Every organisation is all over the place – the only consistency seems to be The Artist. Personally I am loving the Drive and Kevin love and THRILLED for Ramsay. The Thing I am most surprised about it the love for The Help.
@RobertlowercaseA
“I got a film degree, and I used the pro logic to do the sound editing with different layers of sound to create the entire sequence.”
That’s very nice. So it happens, I’m also a film school graduate and a movie editor of 10 years, so please don’t lecture me on the insights of movie making, I know a little bit myself.
“The fact that The Artist got literally nominated for everything makes me think Harvey is running the BAFTAs as well.”
Uhm, I remember The Social Network winning big last year at the Golden Globes…
And if a Weinstein film got nominated for most of the categories (like The Artist) or wins big, can’t it be that a the film is really good first before blaming Harvey??? I’m sick of people always blaming the guy because of his film choices leading the way every year…
The Iron Lady is about British Prime Minister
Sound in BAFTA I believe is a fusion of Sound Editing and Mixing
My Week with Marilyn is set in Britain and features Sir Laurence Olivier
The Artist one of this season’s best film (accept it)
And this is BRITISH Academy of Film and Television Arts people, why blame Weistien??? Maybe it could have been worst for you all if W.E. got some nods???
Hoped Hugo got nominated instead of Drive or The Descendants though…..
Five hundred is bigger than all but one branch of the Academy. Also come on from the quotes YOU gave me it’s probably closer to 1000 than it is 500.
Kole, there is a difference between Best Sound Editing and Best Sound.
You want to quote something accurate to justify the best sound category.
In general, best sound does means sound mixing.
Best Visual effects in general means SFX, it just so happens that visual effects are mostly CGI these days, it is not just about CGI, I agree with you there.
@craigz – who says US produces many more films than any other country…
Not only is that not correct, but the US falls short by a HUGE margain.
I am done arguing with you, CraigZ, whatever you say.
1000 is just a rough figure that I came up on the spot, don’t lock in what I said. 500 is just not very big. There are other 5000 voters who are not BAFTA members who belong to other branches.
It doesn’t really matter, the fact is that the majority of Oscar voters are not BAFTA members.
@ RobertlowercaseA
why because BAFTAS snubbed your favorite film????
Baftas matter, like roman polanski in 2002, marion cotillard, alan arkin, king’s speech and many more
Mattoc, I think you are right. India I believe produces more films than the U.S!
Quick observations
- The Brits didn’t fall in love with ‘Paris’…maybe Woody should have titled it ‘Midnight in London’.
- Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy now has a viable shot at surprising at the Oscars in the main categories. Probably not Alfredson, but the picture, actor, script nods could happen.
- The Help now has a realistic shot at being a major Oscar-player ‘Driving Miss Daisy’ style (no strong bd-contender, but still a potential bp-winner), it will have probably 3 acting nominations, adapted screenplay a few technicals … and with all that love, who knows, maybe it could sneak into bd, too ?
- Shailene Woodley might be in trouble. No SAG and BAFTA is definitely not a good omen. Descendants probably won’t win bp, either, not if Payne is not seriously considered for bd…and seeing the BAFTA-snub and the lack of prominent wins, it might be the case.
- The Best Actress race has 4 locks now (Streep-Williams-Davis-Swinton) and it should be emphasized that Glenn Close was ineligible for BAFTA, so she still could be easily the 5th nominee…although the competition is stiff with the likes of Mara, Theron, Dunst, Olsen.
- Could both British men make the Best Actor top5 ? If Fassbender AND Oldman gets in, DiCaprio is out…I think only one Brit will get in + DiCaprio and of course the 3 locks (Clooney, Dujardin, Pitt).
- Drive seems to have the British-vote with the bp-bd love but no Brooks OR Gosling ? At least they nominated Mulligan…but even she should have gotten the recognition for her considerably stronger work in ‘Shame’.
- In the supporting actress race Bejo, Chastain and Spencer all have the quartet (SAG-BAFTA-BFCA-GG), and surprisingly enough McCarthy received a BAFTA-nod, too, so now I think she will get the Oscar-nod, too…if the British weren’t prude enough to snub her, the Academy won’t be, either. Fifth contender ? Probably Woodley, but the SAG-BAFTA snubs hurt her big time. I wouldn’t be surprised if the British-vote secured the 5th slot for Mulligan (for Shame) or Redgrave.
- The supporting actor race is a mess with only two locks (Plummer, Branagh have the quartet), and surprisingly enough, next in line is Jonah Hill who has BAFTA-SAG-HFPA nods. Strangely enough Brooks didn’t make the BAFTA-cut even though they clearly loved his film. Anyway, I think he will be 4th and the 5th slot will probably go to Nolte, unless J. Edgar (Hammer), Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy (Hardy OR Firth OR Cumberbatch), Young Adult (Oswalt), Moneyball (Hoffman) surprise in a few main categories. THEN their supporting men might have enough support from the Academy to sneak in.
- Kristen Wiig will probably land her first Oscar nomination this year, her screenplay received BAFTA/WGA nominations and her film is considered seriously for a bp-nod.
- Hugo didn’t get best picture and best adapted screenplay nominations, neither any acting nods…not good, definitely doesn’t look ‘frontrunner-material’ on paper. Before you start, YES, if the film was eligible, BAFTA-nods in main categories ARE important.
- Clooney might get a nod for adapted screenplay, as well, Ides of March now has BAFTA and Golden Globe script-nominations.
- The fall of War Horse continues…after failing to land DGA, GG-bd, WGA, GG-script nominations, now it didn’t even get bp from BAFTA, let alone director/screenplay.
- BAFTA-voters weren’t into Dragon Tattoo (only score and cinematography, not even editing), although they did show some love to the original last year (lead actress, adapted screenplay nominations and won foreign language film)
Your own source made it sound like their was a lot more than 500….. Are you discrediting your own source now?
BAFTA didn’t snub my favorite films. Stop putting words in my mouth. I have already said why I think BAFTA might not matter that much. I can easily debunk you by the case of how Titanic did at BAFTAS.
They might be accurately predicting the Oscars sometimes, but have you thought about they just happened to agree with the Oscar voters?
BAFTA matters less than you think in my opinion.
I just don’t like BAFTA’s attempt to try to be part of Hollywood, that’s all.
CraigZ, i said 1000, that is a rough figure. Jesus Christ.
Quit trying to prove that you are wrong and anybody else is wrong.
Gee, this is not politics. 1000 is just a rough figure that I heard from Gold Darby, who knows?
as for sound nomination for artist:
sasha also has it listed in her tracker, so i guess it’s nomination isn’t an issue.
CraigZ, i know you like to be disagreeable. Quit it already. You are right. BAFTA has a HUGE and OBVIOUS overlapping membership. Whatever BAFTA wins reflect 100 percent how Oscar race will go. Happy?
I was talking about that quote you put up
“We don’t know, of course. It’s hard to find out,” Parfitt said, but he offered some helpful information. Oscars consultants estimate that there are about 500 Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences members in the U.K. — surely, they’re almost all BAFTA members too. Add to that many of the BAFTA members living in the U.S. “We’ve got 1,200 members between L.A. and New York,” Parfitt says.
Sure sounds like more than 500 to me
The Artist is going to win best film, best director, best score, best costume at BAFTAS.
I thought no screeners for ‘The Tree of Life’ were sent to the BAFTA people. That would explain the lack of nomination. I don’t think it’s a snub. The lack of Albert Brooks and Ryan Gosling but Carey Mulligan for Drive is head scratching. Mulligan’s best role was in Shame, she didn’t really have anything to do in Drive. Gosling WAS Drive how can you leave him out. BAFTA nominated Noomi Rapace last year for Dragoon Tattoo so probably why they didn’t want to repeat with Rooney Mara this year. I guess that means that Rooney Mara will get the Oscar nom that Rapace didn’t get. She just has to knock Glenn Close or Tilda Swinton out for that spot.
I never said that the Bafta was gonna be 100% accurate. I even said once that they are not very influencial.
I said
“Now I’m not saying the Baftas mean much just that the Globes really mean next to nothing. To many Brits the Bafta’s mean more than the Oscars. They are their own thing. They could care less about what affect they have on the Academy really. The only reason they have any meaning is because they have some of the same members.”
You just don’t respond well when people dissagree with you, got all defensive and way off track
Not only India, France, Italy, south east Asia, apparently even some places in South/Central America …make more films than North America.
If Kenneth Branagh gets nominated at the Oscars it will be his fifth, and in 5 different categories:
Best Director: Henry V
Best Lead Actor: Henry V
Best Live Action Short Film: Swan Song
Best Adapted Screenplay: Hamlet
??? Best Supporting Actor: My Week with Marilyn
I’m certainly hoping he wins one in the future.
Mattoc, how many of those films from India and France etc are screened for the Baftas and Academy?
The Baftas are just voting for what they have seen. Which is mostly American and British films
“You just don’t respond well when people dissagree with you, got all defensive and way off track”
You just perfectly described yourself, dude.
“Mattoc, how many of those films from India and France etc are screened for the Baftas and Academy?
The Baftas are just voting for what they have seen. Which is mostly American and British films”
Talking about not responding well and get way off track.
Robert, when I started this conversation I wasn’t even talking to you. You took what I said about the Baftas in relation to the Globes and blew it way out of proportion.
If anything I was getting back to where the arguement started. You have also been insulting people who dissagree with you about the Artist sound thing
CraigZ, you said US produced more film than other countries.
Mattoc was right, you are incorrect.
You just don’t like to be prove wrong which is understandable, then you get defensive and become a “revisionist”,
So why are you carrying about me being defensive? You are way off track and you were just proven wrong already. by Mattoc and me.
Mattoc
Very interesting fact, I imdb-d his awards/nominations a few weeks ago and I saw that rare-accomplishment-in-the-making, too, but then it slipped my mind. Thanks for reminding me !
All i said was the sound nomination was ridiculous, and I was critical over BAFTAS.
Why are you so freaked out?
Oh, sorry, I didn’t mean Mattoc, I meant James.
You told the people who dissagreed with you that they lacked common sense
Talking about insult. I never told anyone to shut up like the way you did before. You look down upon people and say “Your grammar hurts my brain”.
You attacked OCO300, I don’t do that, you do.
So don’t be a hypocrite, please.
Lacking common sense is not exactly an insult.
But telling someone to shut up and accusing OCO and SClub being the same person or saying their grammar hurt your brain is not an insult??
And you can’t admit to how big the Bafta’s are in the academy. When I told you that they have more members than any guild you ignored the question and discredited your own sources
Telling someone they lack common sense is just a fancy way of calling them stupid
Wait wait, now back to BAFTA’s again. What about your act of telling OCO to shut up,uh?
Trying to change the subject again?
Oh yeah, so telling someone to shut up is a good morale behavior.
“Shut up, OCO, your grammar hurts my brain”
“Shut up, OCO, you are obviously Subclub”
Great, great justification.. OH boy
You want to keep arguing,uh?
Would you two mind stop kicking each other’s balls over the internet?
Telling someone to shut up and saying their grammar hurts your brain is definitely an insult!!
“Shut up, OCO, your grammar hurts my brain”
“Shut up, OCO, you are obviously Subclub”
Uh….. those are not quotes of me.
Especually not he second one
I have already told CraigZ that I wanted to stop, but he is unable to stop.
So CraigZ, do you want to stop? I am asking you politely. You can have your opinion, and I can have mine.
Talk about the French being prolific in making films. They’re co-producing films in Comoros, Burkina Faso, Nepal, Kazakhstan, Vietnam, Philippines, North Africa, Latin America, Caribbean, Transcaucasus… everywhere I guess. They’re the saving grace of cinema.
@phantom – I make a lot of comments, but I scratched my head on that one. Thanks for clearing it
Are you sure?? CraigZ
You didn’t say that to OC0300?
CraigZ, you want to have the last word? Have the last word then.
Sorry Koles, also sorry to Ryan and Beth.
The Artist is still the frontrunner. Can’t wait to see how PGA will go this Saturday.
@Craigz – stop being a shit. He wants to end it, so bloody well end it.
I did stop. I appologized to Ryan and Beth( I doubt Sasha is awake). Haven’t said anything since
Alright then. As you were.
Does anyone else think that with the directing nomination for Lynne Ramsay, Tilda Swinton suddenly becomes a frontrunner for the BAFTA? I’m not sure the Brits will be keen on awarding a portrayal of their former prime minitser (that most of them still remember very well) done by an american actress, that they not necessarily might consider doing the real iron lady justice. They simply may not rise above their personal experience and not ocus on the quality of the acting itself. Tilda however has very fond memories o the BAFTA that in the end actually won her the Oscar.
I always kind of thought Swinton was the front runner. Williams, Davis and Streep are all Americans. Giving swinton the edge.
By the way, people, important fact : there are 3 best picture contenders that pulled off PGA/SAG-ensemble/BAFTA-bp/HFPA-bp/BFCA-bp nominations : The Artist, The Descendants and….The Help. No Hugo, Midnight in Paris., War Horse, Dragon Tattoo, no…it is The Help. So I think it might be time to seriously consider another ‘Driving Miss Daisy’ kind of Oscar-year…a potential Best Picture winner without a strong Best Director contender.
@koles – I think she would be one of the front runners. I think Viola will win here. There is only one reason IMO to nominate The Help for BP, and that is the perf’s – without them it is very MOTR. And Viola is the best of a vet good lot.
Even thoug Charlotte Gainsborg is not nominated for BA, I’m still hopeful, by the love of Christ, she’ll snatch it (no up intended)
Phantom….. So who wins director? (that is honestly the more important award to me)
Sadly I dissagree with Hazanavicius not being a strong contender.(go Marty!) Sure he didn’t win the Globe but I mean that catagory at the Globes is usually all over the place. Remember when Schnabel won despite his film not being nominated for picture?
I’ll go for Alfredson or Scorsese, probably the former. No disrespect to Hugo, but TTSS is grew, and gets better and better with each viewing.
Sorry, OCOs hijacked my keyboard and wants to spew propaganda everywhere…
@phantom
Oh crap, I hope not. But I still don’t see “The Help” as a potential “Driving Miss Daisy” scenario. DMD won 3 globes (comedy, but still) and most importantly, was a movie that only relied on the juggernaut performances of Jessica Tandy and Morgan Freeman. “The Help” doesn’t have that powerhouse duo factor going for it. Viola Davis IMHO is still suffering from some category confusion and is not entirely lead in my opinion. Also, when “Driving Miss Daisy”, it had no opponents such as “The Artist” that was scoring everything everywhere.
Mattoc, those predictions seem pretty solid to me. I’ll guess Alferson.
How do you see Best Director going at the Oscars
@Craig Z, you’re talking about my favorite film from this millennium, The Diving Bell and the Butterfly, which won best director and best foreign film at the Globes. It was not eligible though for BP drama because it was in the French language.
Oh I just want to say that I watched The Help today and I’m in agreement with you guys. The performances were amazing of course. Davis was great as always. Spencer was nomination worthy but I was really blown away by Chastain. I hope she wins. Janney and Howard did very good jobs too. Underappreciated this year.
All that said. Everything else about that film I just found merely acceptable and I was really just withing it would end for the last 40 minutes honestly.
The Iron Lady being nominated for anything outside of lead actress, besides if they had thrown Olivia Colman a line for Best Supporting Actress (a better option than Mulligan in Drive, for starters), is downright offensive.
I know what film I was talking about James. Masterfull movie BTW. I’m just finding it suprising that they gave the award to Schnabbel since he was never really in the running for the Oscar. They usually keep it pretty close.
No cinematography nom for Tree of Life is laughable. One word for the BAFTA-Voters: Incompetence.
I would say Alfredson for the BAFTA.
AMPAS will go petty much DGA I suspect, with Malick the only exceptional at the expense of Fincher, and possibly Alfredson in at the expense of Allen.
Payne
Scorsese
Malick
Alfredson
Hazanavicius
I think TOL will get nominated a bit at AMPAS and I think the award is between Scorsese and Malick – honestly.
No Hugo for BP, Screenplay…? The Artist for sound?
Are they mad?
T.
@Carson – it is offensive…
I wouldn’t mind if they nominated it for 15 awards and took them all. I can just put it down to the film being subjective, and not to my taste, but Jesus H Christ – a screenplay?
Meryl was in it long enough to stop me from creating a scene, but…it is awful
I’m going with a big suprise with that fifth slot for Best Director.
Payne
Scorcese
Hazanavicious
Allen
Farhadi
I’m gonna predict A Separation to go all City of God and Talk to Her on us and get Director and Screenplay nods. Not because I truely believe it’s gonna happen but because I’m bored. Also what do I really got to lose? If I’m wrong oh well I just went for it but……if I’m right. I’ll be the only person I’ve seen call this one. Which I think is possible. Unlikely but possible.
@Craig Z, but Schnabel was nominated for Best Director at the Oscars and the film was a very strong contender for a BP nom. It also got nominated for writing, editing and cinematography. It was very much in the thick of the fight.
Zero nods for “Tree of Life” and Philip Seymour (a wonderful actor) nominated for one of his worst perfomances ever. Dear people from the BAFTA, go to Hell……
Oh and I think safe money says Hazanavicious. Marty may have a chance. But if The Artist is really the juggernaught it looks like it may become it is unwise to predict a split.
“I always kind of thought Swinton was the front runner. Williams, Davis and Streep are all Americans. Giving swinton the edge.”
Nationality didn’t seem to matter to them when Marion Cotillard beat Julie Christie.
I’m aware of that James but I never thought Schnabel had a chance to win. Not with the Coens and PTA in the race.
But that’s not really the point I’m trying to make here. I’m just saying it was an unexpected(though inspired) choice
@craigz – it’s very possible. I don’t think so, but I would like so.
The film I think will get nominated and I would bet my house on it.
It’s one of my favourite films of the year, but it may not be cinematic enough for voters.
Gage, it did for Carey Mulligan
LMFAO. Carey Mulligan for DRIVE? Are you kidding me?! She’s 100x better in SHAME!
Since there are usually some ‘inspired’ and some ‘ random’ nominations each year with actors. I will put one out thee that no one has mentioned. Sean Penn in This must be the place.
Mattoc, I actually think it has a better chance of a Best Director nomination actually. Because there is no Best Foriegn Director catagory to take votes from Farhadi away from Best Director but on the other hand……They can choose just to place it in Foriegn Language film catagory and not feel the need to vote for it in Best Picture.
Hope that makes sense. That wasn’t easy to put that thought on the page.
The Artist for Best Sound? Hmmmm…..
Mattoc, I do not believe Sean Penn is eligable. His film has not been shown in New York or LA yet. Next november I hear.
If there is gonna be a suprise in that catagory I can imagine it being maybe Shannon or Bichir
@craigz – oh…thanks for the info. I have not seen the film but I know it got good Perf reviews in Cannes.
Most pleasant surprise: Thor and Loki up for the Rising Star Award.
The rest… holding my judgement till when I see most of the films nominated.
NO SCREENERS OF TREE OF LIFE WERE SENT TO BAFTA MEMBERS. just to make things clear
and this has no effect on the oscars as the deadline for nominations is over. hopefully it just snuck in with a BP/Director nom. But good for Drive, Europeans love the film!
Very few surprises here. All the major players. Happy to see Jim Broadbent get acknowledged. He’s always solid and his turn in The Iron Lady is overlooked.
Tilda Swinton is winning the BAFTA for lead actress, come on people it’s Britain!!!!! Tilda’s own country.
This should be Tinker/Tailer’s moment of glory (it’s that film’s turn, after all). I hope the Baftas break rank a bit and honor some deserving players still waiting for recognition.
Some bizarre omissions (Redgrave, Coleman) and inclusions (screenplay – Iron Lady) detract a bit from what is usually a pretty solid group. Thrilled for the Drive attention, Fassie and McQueen, and the strong showing by Kevin (Swinton, Ramsey, et al). Plus, I get another chance to root for Incendies (a little patriotism doesn’t hurt).
My quick take:
** Hugo not nominated for best film…huh?
** Actor…all deserving…that would be my top five for Oscar noms.
** Script…The Iron Lady? That’s a shock.
** I am bummed that neither Tree of Life nor Extremely Loud got any recognition.
Really sad that Hugo missed Best Picture. It may wind up winning more awards than whatever film does win best picture.
No nods in supporting acting for TTSS?
Jonah Hill instead of Benedict Cumberbatch?
And why wasn’t The Artist nominated for special effects? Kidding.
For those wondering why Carey Mulligan was nominated for Drive and not Shame, she was designated lead actress for Shame.
BAFTA is a tricky beast. On the one hand, sometimes their nominees in a particular category don’t match up that well with Oscar. At other times they match perfectly and give indications of late shift momentum in various races. Javier Bardem’s nomination in best actor first popped up on the BAFTA list before he got his “surprise” Oscar nomination. BAFTA has also signaled to us the appeal of “The Reader,” not to mention the tides building for a Cotillard and a Swinton Oscar win in 2007.
So take these results with a grain of salt, I guess, but anyone who just flippantly discounts BAFTA nominations doesn’t know much about awards season.
The absence of “Hugo” in BP is baffling. The sound nomination for “The Artist” is another indicator of the depth of support for that movie. When a movie gets a nomination in a category no one was anticipating, that often indicates a winner. Remember when “The Hurt Locker” got an Oscar nomination in some category (score?) that nearly drove the “Avatar” supporters over the deep end?
LYNNE RAMSAY! Yes!!!!
Happy to see Tinker Tailor get so much love!
And Incendies!
And Shame, Philip Seymour Hoffman!
Thanks BAFTA!
(Some odd overkill for The Artist though…Sound? Really? Were they nominated for lack therefof or simply for the one sequence? Kind of a slap in the face for other contenders… at least they put Bejo in lead, where she belongs.)
“the artist” for cinematography over “tree of life”. REALLY?
How Stupid and Terrible Mistakes:
T T S S – Best picture? War Horse must be there.
T T S S and Kevin – Best director? Spielberg and Terrence Malick must be there.
The Ides of March – Best Adapted Screenplay? War Horse must be there.
T T S S – Cinematography? Where is The Tree of Life?
How Stupid and Terrible Mistakes:
T T S S – Best picture? War Horse must be there.
T T S S and Kevin – Best director? Spielberg and Terrence Malick must be there.
The Ides of March – Best Adapted Screenplay? War Horse must be there.
T T S S – Cinematography? Where is The Tree of Life?
How Stupid and Terrible Mistakes:
T T S S – Best picture? War Horse must be there.
T T S S and Kevin – Best director? Spielberg and Terrence Malick must be there.
The Ides of March – Best Adapted Screenplay? War Horse must be there.
T T S S – Cinematography? Where is The Tree of Life?
How Stupid and Terrible Mistakes:
T T S S – Best picture? War Horse must be there.
T T S S and Kevin – Best director? Spielberg and Terrence Malick must be there.
The Ides of March – Best Adapted Screenplay? War Horse must be there.
T T S S – Cinematography? Where is The Tree of Life?
How Stupid and Terrible Mistakes:
T T S S – Best picture? War Horse must be there.
T T S S and Kevin – Best director? Spielberg and Terrence Malick must be there.
The Ides of March – Best Adapted Screenplay? War Horse must be there.
T T S S – Cinematography? Where is The Tree of Life?
@mecid
How long have you lived in an echo chamber? Must make listening to music impossible!
Oh come on, those are the nominees for outstanding british film? Everyone knows that Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 is the best and the most outstanding british film of 2011.
@SC8Official 1) not only in the UK, but everyone in America and around the world knows that. 2) Hard to believe it was Daniel Radcliffe announced the nominees.
SClub88Official
dont you realize of the truth?? Harry potter is dead.
@Mattoc great lie
everyone ann america and UK? haha you are funny guys. You are kidding so much. You have to wake up, and face that Harry potter is not nothnng compared with the others movies. Most of the peoples, between them (the important awards) know that.
The bafta didnt do what you wanted. So Understad what those awards are trying to say: Harry Potter is just summer movie.
@henry if it was dead than no one would in the US and UK saw it last year when it released, would’ve got all negative reviews, made less money in the domestic box office (than We Need to Talk About Kevin did) and the international box office, would not have been nominated and won any award, and no one would go buy a DVD of Harry Potter 7.2.
@Craig Z. robertlowercaseA is right
@mecid
How Stupid and Terrible Mistakes:
T T S S – Best picture? War Horse must be there.
T T S S and Kevin – Best director? Spielberg and Terrence Malick must be there.
The Ides of March – Best Adapted Screenplay? War Horse must be there.
T T S S – Cinematography? Where is The Tree of Life?
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You”re right my friend. Similar awards make masterpiece films nothing.
My apologies to the Oscars. I have no interest in you this year after the recent Globes and Guilds nominations. BAFTA is where it’s at.
Dead henry?! Was it ever dead, cause I don’t think it’s dead cause every year since 2001 I see kids, teenagers, and a few adults dressing in Harry Potter costumes, tv sketch shows doing some sketches of Harry Potter movies like All That/Saturday Night Live/Mad TV/etc., I could name a few reasons why it’s most succeessful cinematic franchise of all time, and does everyone think Daniel Radcliffe is a bad actor?
@henry Tree of Life, Midnight in Paris, Bridesmaids, A Better Life, The Help, and Attack the Block were released in the summer
So much for the theory that the Brits won’t go for The Help as much as folks in the States…
I think that it might be about time that we stick a fork in Vanessa Redgrave…
Disappointed by the lack of “Moneyball” in Picture and Editing, but it looks like Jonah Hill’s chances for Oscar just went through the roof.
God, I hope Fassbender pulls off an Oscar nod. If not, people will look back 5 years from now and think “WTF!?”
No Hugo for Best Pic, no GWTDT for Director, editing, or Pic (although I do love that Drive is there). Does this mean Hugo has no chance at winning Best Picture, when was the last time a film won the Oscars for best pic without a best film nod from the BAFTA’s?
Oh dumb BAFTA people. Don’t even try to vote on movies from now on. Stick to making tea. GRRRRRRRRRRRR.
Tintin best animated feature
Absence of TREE OF LIFE in Cinematography is embarrassing, to put it kindly. And…they obviously loved DRIVE (hats off)- so absence of Albert Brooks is embarrassing too.
Why is Carey Mulligan nominated for doing absolutely nothing?
Before the gloating begins, I have to say it was very plausible to assume that the BAFTA’s would bestow major nominations for Harry Potter.
I can’t believe how it has been shut out like this over The Help for pete’s sake. Obviously, they were influenced by the precursors and followed the pack. I am just baffled and disgusted. I think this is the worst lineup out of the precursors. Such bullshit.
I seriously thought they had the taste to make War Horse, The Dangerous Method, In the Land of Blood & Honey, Harry Potter and the Deathy Hallows pt.2, and so many other movies to make a comeback.
This awards race has been a disaster and I just pray the Academy make’s better choices and breaks off from groupthink.
Christ, I can’t believe they snubbed Hugo in so many categories either!
“Does this mean Hugo has no chance at winning Best Picture, when was the last time a film won the Oscars for best pic without a best film nod from the BAFTA’s?”
I remember that Million Dollar Baby wasn’t nominated for BAFTAs the year it won at the Oscars, but I think that was because the movie was ineligible that year because it was such a late release. Hope I’m remembering that correctly.
Other than that, I think the answer is no. In recent history, anyway, since BAFTA moved its award show to before the Oscars (2001 they started that, I think), no movie (other than M$B) has won the Oscar BP award that hasn’t at least been nominated for the BAFTA BP award. That doesn’t mean it can’t happen this year. But yeah, this exclusion hurts Hugo’s chances of an Oscar BP win, in my mind. Hugo will still be nominated for BP at the Oscars, of course.
All signs continue to point to The Artist.
Im in total shock right now like seriously, for best actess??? Bejo who is considered for a supporting is there, instead of Young Adult impressive performance of Charlize Theron?? this is shameful/ or ronney, what is wrong with them??? am i dreaming??
Iron Lady for original screenplay and no young Adult well go the hell that’s all what i can say, the most dissapointed weak choices ever, putting bad movies with a mixed reviews is shameful, and puttting someone considered supporting instead of terrfic major lead performance is even more worse.
This is a travesty, and people need to quit mocking the support for HP considering it was far superior to many of the films on the list.
I find it hard to believe the British industry loved The Help and The Descendants so much. They are just trying to be “in” with the supposed frontrunners and what movies dominated the American media discussion.
“This awards race has been a disaster and I just pray the Academy make’s better choices and breaks off from groupthink.
Christ, I can’t believe they snubbed Hugo in so many categories either!”
Umm…but BAFTA not nominating Hugo for BP IS breaking off from group think, isn’t it, since Hugo has been popping up everywhere else for BP? I’m puzzled by the Hugo omission as well, but it seems odd to accuse BAFTA of group think while also getting mad at it for not nominating the usual suspects such as Hugo. (Plus they nominated Drive for BP, so I can’t be terribly mad at them.)
This could have been a great award season but now it is turning out to be the weakest and the worst. Such a waste of potential and foresight.
It looks like The Artist is the clear frontrunner. A well-executed gimmick that lacks the depth of the competition and many more deserving movies being snubbed. I might just tune out completely.
Um, I am not going to waste my time debating with you since I will lose my mind. Analyze all of their nominees and the other factors. There was clear groupthink here about which movie campaigns played the game the best. Yes, Hugo missed the big nod but overall, examine their choices. The one big contender they did slight didn’t deserve it and you can argue genre bias. Also, Hugo did manage to get Best Director. I am not just talking about Hugo but their choices as a whole. Lose your tunnel vision. I have a right to criticize the BAFTA’s and there is a clear case of groupthink by favoring what the press labeled as frontrunners.
Sexist much? Not a single girl got nominated for their Rising Star Award.
They favored the movies that the most hype and best media campaigns so yes, there was major groupthink here. It is mostly the usual suspects with a few egregious omissions.
Well, if the brits can “stick to making tea” (to quote a not terribly smart remark by the editor-in-chief), at least they know how to spotlight films like TTSS and Drive, whom I’m sure will be neglected by the Oscars…and naming, Lynne Ramsay for best director!? That would never happen in the land of Oscar!
So even though there are glaring omissions (not least TOL for cinematography) and baffling inclusions (like Iron Lady for screenplay), this is not a lot worse than what we will see on Jan 24th. There will be pros and cons in both instances…and probably in equal measure.
When is the penny going to drop with all these Potter fanboys! When it comes to Oscar its getting nothing other than a couple of techie nods at the most – get a grip and move on!
Sasha – why should the Brits stick to making tea? Perhaps we may just be telling AMPAS to stick to making burgers next week!!!!! Until then do not judge!
“Sexist much? Not a single girl got nominated for their Rising Star Award.”
And yet a woman was nominated for director.
@Marie yeah I mean on the box office and critics chart Haryy Potter 7.2 average is 90.8%
Yay Drive!! But some of these choices are BIZARRE.
I think this is a fantastic set of nominations and the BAFTAs really have got it right the last couple of years.
It was always going to happen, but it’s nice to see TTSS get poured over with nominations and it’s nice to see Drive get some major nominations.
Also for those saying they only responded to the media hype and campaigning, let’s not forget they acknowledges some seriously small budget films, Tyrannosaur, BLACK POND!
Harry Potter is dead in the water. It was NEVER in my opinion going to be a contender. It was seriously overrated.
The Rising Star award was up for a vote in an attempt to stir some pre-nomination activity among the british public…not a terribly smart move considering that people voted for males only! But you can hardly blame BAFTA for that…and I’m sure they will change procedure again next year to avoid a repetition of this scenario.
The sexism claim is ridiculous, alas. Furthermore, if the BAFTA is indeed sexist, why would they nominate Ramsay for director?? So basically: get a grip!
If anything, the BAFTAs are slightly chauvinist when it comes to a preference for homebred material, but the again: tell me one country who does not have a patriotic bent when it comes to this kind of thing…?
On a side-note: Festivals a la Cannes or Venice is an entirely different proposition; international jurys are selected in order to secure a non-biased process…
And just like the Globes, is Harvey Weinstein’s show all over again
At least Dragon Tattoo got something. Glad to see some love for Tinker Taylor Soldier Spy.
In other nominee news, the nominations for the Canadian Genies were announced. Monsieur Lazhar has 9 noms. Cafe de Flore (which should have been Canada’s Oscar entry) leads with 13, followed by A Dangerous Method with 11.
http://cinemablographer.blogspot.com/2012/01/nominations-for-32nd-annual-genie.html
Can we have a discussion about what is and isn’t lead and supporting? Because most of the time I agree with the placements but other people seem to be calling “category fraud” a lot this year.
My problem with these BAFTA nominations is that in the WTF moments it’s not even that they supported their own. For example, if you get surprised to see Brooks snubbed you look and see that Jonah Hill is in his place. I think if Brooks had been a replaced by a Brit it would make some kind of sense at least. To me anyway. Same thing with Olivia Colman. Not that she’s been expected to get other nods, but you would have thought they’d have shoehorned her in here. And wouldn’t the HUGO snub have made more sense if Best Film went like this:
THE ARTIST
THE DESCENDANTS
HARRY POTTER AND THE DEATHLY HALLOWS, PART 2
TINKER TAILOR SOLDIER SPY
WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT KEVIN
As much as you might say HUGO should have gotten in before those films, if it were snubbed for something British I think it’d be more understandable.
People keep forgeting that 2011´s best picture is called THE TREE OF LIFE.
Well, actually it´s not really a film, it´s a poem, a gift to humanity.
Happy to see it getting snubbed.
At least now I´m sure it´s really good.
Glad to see it´s not melting in the same category as The Help, for example.
Oh, and Jonah Hill… if they wanted to honor some youth, they could´ve stay home and have chosen Ezra Miller as the tormented and the devilish Kevin.
The BAFTA nominations are laughable and the awards officially means nothing for 2011 maybe reflecting on 2012 movies they’ll get it right but i doubt it.
Everyone should probably stop with the “TREE OF LIFE IS DEAD ZOMG” comments, especially with regard to BAFTA nominations. First of all, the film wasn’t even screened for the organization, and secondly, these awards have absolutely nothing to do with -and no effect on- the Oscars.
Sasha – why should the Brits stick to making tea? Perhaps we may just be telling AMPAS to stick to making burgers next week!!!!! Until then do not judge!
Oh just kidding! I thought you Brits enjoyed having someone take the piss out of you.
I think Jim Broadbent might be entering the picture for an Oscar nomination. I base this on nothing more than a quirk in the Oscars where a surprise winner is often nominated again later (almost as a way of justifying their earlier win).
I noticed this with Marcia Gay Harden for Mystic River, Marisa Tomei (first for In the Bedroom, and again with The Wrestler), Juliette Binoche for Chocolat, and a couple of others I’m forgetting. Not to say that these winners didn’t deserve their subsequent nomination(s), but, in most cases, that nomination came as a bit of a surprise.
This could all be ridiculous, but I wouldn’t be shocked if Broadbent gets nominated this year.
Of course, by my theory, Adrien Brody and Kim Basinger are still in-line to get surprise nominations somewhere down the line
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Im so sick and tired of Pitt and Clooney, there is nothing exceptional about these two perfromances, there are at least 3 other actors who deserve it much more better, thats what makes me sick in this awards the overhyped media law who decide…and i realized that’s all about politics and campaigns..not about ” the deserving”.
As well as for the actresses, at the oscar race, so sick of streep and close these 2 old ladies sticking so hard ( one who shouldn’t deserve to win for this performance in a bad film, and the other mediocre peroformance+ mediocre film) sucking the chances of other amazing performances this year im thinking of Theron, Rooney, Olsen, Dunst…but it’s still open for the ladies still hoping…
A couple comments regarding some categories:
“Tinker Tailor” for best costumes? A really bad choice here. Costumes were nothing special and added little to the storyline/character development. Lisy Christl deserved a mention for “Anonymous” or Denise Crongenberg for “A Dangerous Method” would have been better choices.
It’s nice to see “HP” getting the technical love it deserves at least. I was hoping it would make the cinematography cut.
I’m very pleased with the nominations for “Drive”, except I would have placed Ryan Gosling in there for Best Actor (instead of Brad Pitt). And I thought Carey Mulligan’s performance in “Drive” was just fine. She deserved her nomination. It’s interesting that they snubbed Brooks for BSA. That can only hurt him come Oscar time. I think Bryan Cranston or Ron Perlman also gave damn good performances in “Drive” too, and have been yet unheralded.
I’m also glad to see the love for “We Need To Talk About Kevin”. I really admire Tilda Swinton’s performance in this movie.
Sorry if I may sound bias but BAFTA always picks in favorite of their own movies from UK including acting and directing. No directing for Alex Payne, no supporting act for Woodley, no Tree of Life for cinematography. I hope the deserving winners will win in the end…
@Keifer yeah Harry Potter should’ve been nominated for Costume
@bennett how come Tree if Life only made $13 million in domestic box office?
Except for TTSP and LTAK and Lynne Ramsay, these nominations are all over the place. Mulligan for Drive? But they can’t pic Vanessa Redgrave so they choose Judy Dench? No Albert Brooks or Gosling but Drive as film and director, and Jonah Hill again? Did they just pick random names from a hat?
@SClub88Official: Because most Americans have absolutely horrible taste in film?
It made 41 million elsewhere and is the most respected film of the year by everyone outside of ‘academies’ and ‘guilds’.
Right on queue, it just picked up six more awards from the Georgia Film Critics Association:
http://www.georgiafilmcritics.org/
henry, your ego is too big. Stop with the Potter hate.
13 million americans watched it. 3 million left the cinema before it’s over. Other 3 million slept in the middle. And other 3 million was just unable to feel it, or even understand what was being told.
I dont hate harry potter, Just I say the truth, harry potter 7 2 is overrated for the fans. Bafta awards considered that Hp didnt deserved to be nominated.
The fans dont see the mistakes that the movie had in every scenes.
awful nominations. and what is up with best supporting actor this year? its a complete mess. like someone else said give the spot to ezra miller-he was at least convincing in his role whereas jonah hill..umm yeah we wont go there. i was hoping for a surprise in best actress-they could of at least thrown in a bafta to either dunst, mara, theron and olsen since its becoming obvious that they will be snubbed:/
anyway im totally over the precursors now and dont even care to see anymore of them. just bring on the oscar noms and lets get this over with..
Finally a non critic/jornalistic group recognized the brilliance of “Drive” and “Tinker Taylor Soldier Spy”. That’s why I love the British
HP snub is completely disgusting.
As much as I want Close out of the race, how the heck is she now considered vulnerable? She scored 4 major precursors and was ineligible for BAFTA so it isn`t like she was snubbed altogether. And none of actresses that circulate around as possible upsets took her place in BAFTA nomination. So I`m curious whether this talk is just wishful thinking or there`s some legit reason to believe her hype has mercifully faded.
Elton,
I couldn’t agree with you more.
At least BAFTA embraced Drive and Tinker Tailor, and showed some love for Tilda’s movie as well.
I also think Judi Dench’s nomination is refreshing. She was great in “My Week With Marilyn”.
Where the f is “Weekend”? Nothing? Not even screenplay, actor, British film, rising star for CUllen or New? Why the homophobia? It was a lauded british film that made bank in the UK! Vexing…
@Bennett are you 100% sure
henry, what mistakes? Tell me.
If you are one of those pathetic purist who think if the film isn’t exactly like the book, then don’t say shit. You opinion is invalid.
The fact that The Tree of Life can’t even score a cinematography nod here makes BAFTA a complete joke. The other snubs just make the joke funnier.
And I don’t understand the knowledge of Deathly Hallows Part 2 being ‘overrated’ when it seems like everyone on this site hates the film and don’t respect what it’s contributed to the cinematic world.
I’m sure if some big name director made the same exact film, it would get just as much love as Hugo. But because it’s director is some newcomer, nobody gives a shit. You know this is true.
That, and the fact it’s part of a 7 film-franchise is why it’s not getting any recognition.
It’s 8 films, you knew that. I don’t think Harry Potter is hated here, at all. I thought Part 8 was a really good film.
People are just tired of those vocal few who spam this site. For most Harry Potter fans they’re real facepalm moments.
Not hated here? At all?
Yeah, right…
I am not even going to address the bashing and backlash towards the wrong movies and performances. Their list of nominations is a mess.
@ The sexism claim is not ridiculous, don’t tell me to get a grip when what you said is not even accurate as somebody who keeps track of it every year. The Rising Star Award nominations are chosen by the BAFTA jury and panel. The public votes for who wins the award but the nominations are decided by the BAFTA fellows. In the past, they always attempted to balance out the genders with at least a couple of female nominees. This is the first year, this list has been all male. It is also a pretty pathetic list considering the many breakout performances this year.
Picking Lynne Ramsey by snubbing more deserving directors doesn’t equalize or change the fact about the Rising Star nominees. I am fed up with the same poster sniping at me without taking everything that was said into consideration or looking at all of the factors & variables.
Meryl Streep The Iron Lady-she will win! (%100)
Meryl Streep & Michelle Williams -Golden Globes
Viola Davis -SAG
Meryl Streep -BAFTA
Meryl Streep -Oscar
imho
If you were a true fan of harry potter. You’d realize about the mstake they made in the movie. Lack of emotion (big mistake), comedy unnecessary scenes in “a battle”?, total rush to finish the movie, and much more.
You call me pahtetic, and my opinon is invalid? haha you are funny. The one invalid opinion is who defend the movie without take in consideration the main why it is being snnubed.
The only thing that you say: harry potter deserve it because it is the end, and box office… rottem tomatoes… what? they are not good reason.
@Hunter
really? the fact it’s part of a 7 film-franchise is why it’s not getting any recognition.??? nobody believe that.
Harry potter is being sunbbed because it is…bad ending involved in visual effects and nostalgia.. some fans will never accet that their favorite movie is failed.
If you were a true fan of harry potter. You’d realize about the mstake they made in the movie. Lack of emotion (big mistake), comedy unnecessary scenes in “a battle”?, total rush to finish the movie, and much more.
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Emotion: That’s objective. Just because you didn’t feel any emotion doesn’t mean every didn’t. You can’t use that as a argument point and call it a mistake. I felt emotion. MANY others did too.
Comedy: There’s what? Less than 1 minute of comedy in the film? Just 1 line said by certain characters? I don’t see how that automatically means the film is a failure.
Rushed? It was perfectly paced. Every scene had an appropriated amount of time. I would even say that there are scenes that are pretty long, like the Prince’s tale. Considering the movie was adapted from the last 250 pages of the book, and it was 2 hours, is great.
Now, come up with better ‘mistakes’ or just don’t talk shit. You clearly don’t know what you are talking about.
henry, It deserves it because it’s a brilliantly made film. The perfect end of the series. Just look at the critical reception and audience grade. All raves. Just because you hated it does not mean it’s a failure. Sorry to tell you, but the world’s opinion doesn’t reflect yours.
Why is it not getting recognition? Who knows. Why do you think fans are angry? All of those raves months ago and nothing.
“really? the fact it’s part of a 7 film-franchise is why it’s not getting any recognition.??? nobody believe that.”
They watch the film and have no idea what’s going on since they haven’t seen the other 7 films. How can you say that is not a factor? Stop being so stubborn.
THESE FILMS WILL BE NOMINATED!!!!!!!!!!!!
TRUST ME!!!!!!!
1.THE ARTIST
2.THE DECSENDENTS
3.HUGO
4.MIDNIGHT IN PARIS
5.DRIVE
6.MONEYBALL
7.THE HELP
8.THE GIRL WITH THE DRAGON TATTOO/TREE OF LIFE
*WAR HORSE WOULD AND SHOULD NOT MAKE IT.
*LOUD AND CLOSE DEFFINATLY SHOULD NOT.
*BRIDESMATES IS NOT AN OSCAR MOVIE.
*IF DRIVE DOESN’T MAKE IT, I WONT WATCH THE OSCARS TILL 2013
Really I know what I am talking about. I know that saga. So you dont want to face that that move has a lot of mistakes, bad screenplay, terrible directing.A story bad told. You have to watch the movie with a critical sense, not as a fan who love the movies.
The industry ad awards critics are agree with me. So I was right of thinking from a beginning that hp were not going to get any important award.
I am not talking shit, I am sayin the true, very realistic. My opinion is reflejed in what that movie got all this awads season.
henry, no it does not. You aren’t viewing the film critically. You are viewing it with a bad attitude, intending to leave with false, pretentious, negative comments.
Come back here when you actually make any sense.
I don’t like this year’s BAFTA. I know, BAFTAS are usually different from the other awards, but this year’s BAFTA really disappointed me: No THE TREE OF LIFE for Best Cinematography, NO NOMINATION FOR WOODY ALLEN (AS DIRECTOR), OR ALEXANDER PAYNE!! And Lynne Ramsay for Best Director?? The Iron Lady: 4 NODS??? Well, from now on, I will consider BAFTA as an almost irrelevant award. No words. D:
you are wrong hunter. But you wont realize of what I said it is true, because it would hurt you.
I am right, and if you dont face that the final of the saga is a failed movie. Okay. Thanks to awards for not overreating it like the fans did. It is a pitty to think that they formed with a terrible final.