Ace Eddie Preview and Predictions
It’s a bit of a no-brainer, the Ace Eddie this year. The only time a film nominated for the Eddie in Musical/Comedy went on to win Best Picture was with Chicago. It then went on to win the editing prize at the Oscars. But they only started dividing up the awards in 1999. Before that, they had only five. Thus, when Shakespeare in Love won Best Picture it didn’t win the Eddie first, Saving Private Ryan did.
Therefore, I’m not sure what the Eddie might tell us (we’ll run into this same problem, incidentally, with the WGA, also this weekend). It will give The Artist the win in Musical/Comedy, which puts it probably in the first place position to win the Oscar — Eddie + Best Picture win usually means Oscar win for editing. The one time it didn’t match was in 2000, when Gladiator won the Eddie + Best Picture but then lost the editing Oscar to Traffic, which won the Directing Oscar too.
Before that, in 1984 Amadeus won the Eddie + Best Picture but lost the Oscar for editing to the Killing Fields. That means there is like a 99% chance The Artist will win the Oscar for editing.
If it’s going to have any competition at all in that category it could be from the film that wins the Eddie in Drama. If it were me, I would not be able to NOT vote for Thelma Schoonmaker for Hugo. Schoonmaker was with Marty through every step of Hugo. They literally sat side-by-side as tells it with their 3-D glasses over their regular glasses, editing it first in 2-D (I’m pretty sure) and then in 3-D. It is a feat of directorial and editing, this film. And Schoonmaker is a star. She’s just the coolest thing since sliced bread and much of the reason Scorsese is as free with his camera as he is; she comes in a cleans everything up. So I can’t really entertain anyone else winning this category. But if Thelma stepped aside, I would want it to go to Dragon Tattoo. That The Descendants and Moneyball showed up here shows what kind of support they have overall.
Prediction: The Artist, Hugo
| The Descendants | The Descendants* |
| The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo | The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo |
| Hugo | Hugo* |
| Moneyball | Moneyball* |
| War Horse* | |
| The Artist | The Artist* |
| Midnight in Paris* | |
| Bridesmaids | |
| My Week with Marilyn | |
| Young Adult |
| The Social Network | The Social Network* |
| The King’s Speech | The King’s Speech+ |
| Black Swan | Black Swan* |
| Inception* | 127 Hours* |
| The Fighter | The Fighter* |
| Alice in Wonderland | |
| Easy A | |
| The Kids Are All Right* | |
| Made in Dagenam | |
| Scott Pilgrim vs. The World |
| The Hurt Locker | The Hurt Locker+ |
| Avatar | Avatar* |
| District 9 | District 9* |
| Star Trek | Inglourious Basterds* |
| Up in the Air* | Precious+ |
| The Hangover | |
| 500 Days of Summer | |
| A Serious Man* | |
| It’s Complicated | |
| Julia & Julia |
2008
| Slumdog Millionaire | Slumdog Millionaire+ |
| Milk | Milk* |
| Benjamin Button | Benjamin Button* |
| Frost/Nixon | Frost/Nixon* |
| The Dark Knight | The Dark Knight |
| Wall-E | |
| In Bruges | |
| Mamma Mia! | |
| Tropic Thunder | |
| Vicky Cristina Barcelona |
2007
| The Bourne Ultimatum | The Bourne Ultimatum |
| Into the Wild | Into the Wild |
| Michael Clayton* | Diving Bell |
| No Country for Old Men* | No Country for Old Men+ |
| There Will Be Blood* | There Will Be Blood* |
| Hairspray | |
| Juno* | |
| Pirates of the Caribbean: At Worlds End | |
| Ratatouille | |
| Sweeney Todd |
2006
| Babel* | Babel* |
| Casino Royale | Children of Men |
| The Departed* | The Departed+ |
| The Queen* | Blood Diamond |
| United 93 | United 93 |
| Thank You for Smoking | |
| The Devil Wears Prada | |
| Dreamgirls | |
| Little Miss Sunshine* | |
| Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man’s Chest |
2005
| Brokeback Mountain* | Cinderella Man |
| The Constant Gardener | The Constant Gardener |
| Crash+ | Crash+ |
| Good Night, and Good Luck* | |
| Munich* | Munich* |
| Charlie and The Chocolate Factory | |
| The Family Stone | |
| Pride & Prejudice | |
| Wedding Crashers | |
| Walk the Line | Walk the Line |
2004
| Collateral | Collateral |
| Finding Neverland* | Finding Neverland* |
| Kill Bill Vol. 2 | |
| Kinsey | |
| Million Dollar Baby* | Million Dollar Baby+ |
| The Aviator * | The Aviator* |
| De-Lovely | |
| Eternal Sunshine | |
| The Incredibles | |
| Ray* | Ray* |
| Sideways* |
2003
| Cold Mountain | Cold Mountain |
| Master and Commander* | Master and Commander* |
| Mystic River* | City of God |
| The Return of the King+ | The Return of the King+ |
| Seabiscuit* | Seabiscuit* |
| (COMEDY OR MUSICAL): | |
| Bend It Like Beckham | |
| Finding Nemo | |
| Lost in Translation* | |
| Pirates of the Caribbean | |
| School of Rock |
2002
| The Hours* | The Hours* |
| Gangs of New York* | Gangs of New York* |
| About Schmidt | |
| The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers | Lord of the Rings: Two Towers * |
| Minority Report | The Pianist* |
| (COMEDY OR MUSICAL): | |
| About a Boy | |
| Adaptation | |
| My Big Fat Greek Wedding | |
| Chicago+ | Chicago+ |
| Punch-Drunk Love |
2001
| A Beautiful Mind + | A Beautiful Mind+ |
| Black Hawk Down |
Black Hawk Down |
| Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone |
|
| The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring* |
Lord of the Rings* |
| Memento | Memento |
| (COMEDY OR MUSICAL): |
|
| Gosford Park * | |
| Amélie | |
| Monsters, Inc. | |
| Moulin Rouge! * |
Moulin Rouge* |
| The Royal Tenenbaums | |
| Shrek |
2000
| Billy Elliot | Wonder Boys |
| Cast Away | |
| Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon* | Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon* |
| Gladiator+ | Gladiator+ |
| Traffic* | Traffic* |
| Film Editing – Musical or Comedy | |
| Almost Famous | Almost Famous |
| Best In Show | |
| Chocolat * | |
| O Brother, Where Art Thou? | |
| Shanghai Noon |
1999
| American Beauty + | American Beauty* |
| The Insider* | The Insider* |
| The Matrix | The Matrix |
| The Sixth Sense * | The Sixth Sense* |
| The Talented Mr. Ripley | The Cider House Rules* |
| Film Editing – Musical or Comedy | |
| Analyze This | |
| Being John Malkovich | |
| Election | |
| Man On the Moon | |
| Run Lola Run |
1998
| Out Of Sight | Out Of Sight |
| Shakespeare In Love + | Shakespeare In Love+ |
| The Thin Red Line * | The Thin Red Line* |
| Saving Private Ryan * |
Saving Private Ryan* |
| The Horse Whisperer | Life Is Beautiful* |
1997
| Air Force One | Air Force One |
| As Good As It Gets * | As Good As It Gets* |
| Good Will Hunting * | Good Will Hunting* |
| L. A. Confidential * | L. A. Confidential* |
| Titanic+ | Titanic+ |
1996
| The English Patient+ | The English Patient+ |
| Evita | Evita |
| Fargo * | Fargo* |
| Shine * | Shine* |
| The Rock | Jerry Maguire* |
1995
| Braveheart+ | Braveheart+ |
| Apollo 13 * | Apollo 13* |
| Crimson Tide | Crimson Tide |
| The Usual Suspects | Babe* |
| Casino | Se7en |
Comprehensive Chart:
Won ACE | Won Oscar
*Nominated for Best Picture
+Won Best Picture
-Won ACE/Oscar for editing but not nominated
for Best Pic
Check out the seven year
streak from 1990 on.
| 2005: Crash/Walk the Line | Crash+ |
| 2004: The Aviator/Ray* | The Aviator* |
| 2003: Return of the King/Pirates of the Caribbean | Return of the King+ |
| 2002: Gangs of New York*/Chicago | Chicago+ |
| 2001: Black Hawk Down/Moulin Rouge* | Black Hawk Down- |
| 2000: Gladiator/Almost Famous | Traffic* |
| 1999: The Matrix/Being John Malkovich |
The Matrix- |
| 1998: Saving Private Ryan |
Saving Private Ryan* |
| 1997: Titanic | Titanic+ |
| 1996: The English Patient |
The English Patient+ |
| 1995: Braveheart | Braveheart+ |
| 1994: Forrest Gump |
Forrest Gump+ |
| 1993: Schindler’s List |
Schindler’s List+ |
| 1991: Unforgiven | Unforgiven+ |
| 1990: Dances With Wolves |
Dances With Wolves+ |
| 1989: Glory- | Born on the Fourth of July* |
| 1988: Mississippi Burning* |
Who Framed Roger Rabbit- |
| 1987: The Last Emperor |
The Last Emperor+ |
| 1986: Platoon | Platoon+ |
| 1985: Witness | Witness* |
| 1984: Amadeus+ | The Killing Fields* |
| 1983: War Games- |
The Right Stuff* |
| 1982: Gandhi | Gandhi+ |
| 1981: Raiders of the Lost Ark |
Raiders of the Lost Ark* |
| 1980: Raging Bull |
Raging Bull * |
| 1979: All That Jazz |
All That Jazz* |
| 1978: The Deer Hunter+ |
The Deer Hunter+ |
| 1977: The Turning Point+ |
Star Wars* |
| 1976: Rocky | Rocky+ |
| 1975: Jaws | Jaws* |
| 1974: The Longest Yard- |
Towering Inferno* |
| 1973: The Sting |
The Sting+ |
| 1972: Cabaret | Cabaret* |
| 1971: Summer of ’42- |
French Connection+ |
| 1970: Patton+ | Patton+ |
| 1969: Hello Dolly* |
Z* |
| 1968: Bullit- | Bullit- |
| 1967: The Dirty Dozen- |
In the Heat of the Night+ |
| 1966: Fantastic Voyage- |
Grand Prix- |
| 1965: Sound of Music |
Sound of Music+ |
| 1964: Mary Poppins |
Mary Poppins* |
| 1963: How the West Was Won |
How the West Was Won* |
| 1962: The Longest Day |
Lawrence of Arabia+ |
| 1961: The Parent Trap | West Side Story+ |
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I would love Dragon Tattoo to win here – it’d be Baxter / Wall’s second ACE Eddie in as many years, which makes it yet more unlikely than it already is, but I think it’s the most deserved.
I had a few little issues with Hugo’s editing, I’m ashamed to say. I won’t go into them here though. I’m not even completely sure of what they are. You’re right, though, Sasha, about Thelma Schoonmaker. What a legend.
My predictions:
ACE Comedy – The Artist
ACE Drama – Hugo
Oscar – Hugo
My personal pick – Hugo
Should have been nominated – The Tree Of Life
Just have seen the Artist in cinema. Editing was really good. I also like the performances. But my favorite picture is The Descendants. It’s not about cinema – it’s about us. Even cold Hugo is more touching than that. The Artist will win only because of anti technology vote (as Hurt Locker bested Avatar). But I’m not Academy. They’re working for cinema industry and will like both cinema themed films more than The Descendants. Worst Oscar ever!!!
Good to know I can safely predict the Artist for Editing
I was thinking Schoonmaker could sneak in for the win here but I doubt it.
My predictions:
ACE Comedy/Musical – The Artist
ACE Drama – Hugo
Oscar – The Artist
My personal pick – Hugo
Should have been nominated – Drive
Should have been edited – Tree of Life
Should have been edited – Tree of Life
Loved this!
^
second that.
The Tree of Life featured the very best editing this year.
Hugo should win the Oscar.
…but I wouldn’t mind a TGWTDT win either.
I love Thelma Schoonmaker, I adore Thelma Schoonmaker, but a 4th oscar or even the eddie for Hugo is a little too much in my opinion. I’ve seen hugo two times, I love the movie, is great, but I’ve seen some editing imperfection… not Thelma Schoonmaker best work, no.
Yea, Tree of Life was major snubbed here and with the Academy. Editing in that film is seamless.
Going off subject but if there was ever a movie about Martin Scorsese this guy should play him:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0472710/
@ Niles – why?
I had a chance to meet Thelma Schoonmaker when she was nominated (and later won) for The Departed at the annual “Invisible Art, Visible Artists” seminar at the Egyptian Theater in Hollywood (anyone interested in the art of editing, I highly recommend it). She was the nicest person and had some amazing insight into the craft. I’ve seen the five nominated films for Editing and while my favorite wasn’t considered (that’d be The Tree of Life), I’d been happy to see Schoonmaker take home a fourth deserving award for Hugo.
Schoonmaker is about as legendary as film editors get. Given that she’s already won the Oscar 3 times (Raging Bull, Aviator, The Departed), it’s probably not going to happen the 4th time without her film being the BP favorite sadly. Hugo would be my personal pick. But she SHOULD add another Eddie to the mantle if all goes according to plan.
Will Win Oscar: The Artist
Should Win Oscar: Hugo
Runner-Up for Should Win Oscar: Moneyball
Michael Kahn deserves this walking away for either of his efforts. HE is the best editor ever.
Thelma Schoonmaker and Dede Allen really set the standard for film editors – nobody can touch the bar they set. Allen passed away last year(?) and I don’t know how many films Thelma still has in her. I’m certain she’ll take the Ace and would love to see her get another Oscar not only for Hugo, but the ones she missed (Woodstock, Goodfellas, Age of Innocence (not nominated) and The Last Tempation of Christ (not nominated)).
I’m afraid the wave for The Artist will sweep that away this time, though.
Steve50:
Don’t forget about the late Verna Fields. I “Jaws” is perhaps one of the best edited films ever made. Fields’ work made that movie something special(along with John WIlliams’ score) and AMPAS gets it right sometimes. They rewarded her with a well-deserved Oscar that year.
This year? I’m still ticked that the editors branch of AMPAS ignored Matt Newman’s work on “Drive”.
@kiefer
Yeah, I had her included initially, but her filmography wasn’t as long as the other two (although she did American Grafitti and Medium Cool – a great film). She moved up the ranks at the studios, breaking glass ceilings along the way.
Jaws WAS the editing. She’s quoted, “On Jaws, each time I wanted to cut I didn’t, so that it would have an anticipatory feeling — and it worked.” Sure did.
If there is anywhere that women have had an impact in filmmaking, it’s in the evolution of film editing.
Go Thelma and Marty! Those side-by-side photos of the dynamic duo are priceless. They’re still the coolest.
LOVE THAT PICTURE!!!
My prediction:
Best Comedy/Musical – “The Artist.”
Best Drama – Hugo
C/M is a slam-dunk, but Drama could go to either Hugo or TGWTDT.
Dear Awardsdaily/Sasha Stone, I know this is off topic, but when you talk about best screenplays, please consider this information in mind:
2010-2006 – Best Picture, Best Director, Best Screenplay went to the same film.
2005 – Best Director and Best Screenplay went to the same film.
2004 – M$B didn’t win Best screenplay
2003 – LOTR won BP, BD, and BS.
2002 – The Pianist won best director and best screenplay
2001 – ABM won Best Picture, Best Director, and Best Screenplay.
2000 – Traffic won best director and best screenplay.
In 7/11 years, we have seen the Best Picture, Best Director, and Best Screenplay winner go to the same film. In 10/11 years, we have seen the Best Director and Best Screenplay winner go to the same film. If this trend continues, “The Artist” is the favorite to win the Best Original Screenplay, not “Midnight in Paris.”
IF the great Thelma Schoonmaker, the only editor to have the profile that editors DESERVE for all the hard work they do on a film, if she wins she will then have FOUR Oscars, the most that any one has ever won! The most under-appreciated, under-known field in filmmaking = editors!
Also, vis a vis Thelma, who is the widow of the late Michael Powell, I felt that it needs mentioning that I felt the subtext of neglected sadness that permeates Melies’ fate in “Hugo” is really channeling what Marty and of course Thelma felt about the fate of the great Michael Powell.
Sasha, that is a great photo of Schoonmaker and Scorsese editing Woodstock in 1969. The current photo is great, too, and it seems they are still on the same wavelength. Thanks for these kinds of touches that make your site so great.
I work as an editor and am a member of BAFTA but not ACE or Oscar, I personally think as everyone is predicting The Artist will win the Musical/Comedy prize, as for Drama my natural instinct would be to vote for Girl With A Dragon Tattoo, although I don’t think any editor would be upset seeing Thelma win. What I do disagree with is that The Artist will win the Oscar, personally I think its more likely to be the drama winner, talking to a lot of colleagues (and I except everyone votes in the Oscars not just the editors) many of us wouldn’t have put The Artist in the top three best edited films this year.