The Artist wins 7 BAFTAs
British Academy Film Awards
- Best Film: The Artist
- Best Director – Michel Hazanavicius (The Artist)
- Best Leading Actress – Meryl Streep (The Iron Lady)
- Best Leading Actor – Jean Dujardin (The Artist)
- Best Supporting Actress: Octavia Spencer (The Help)
- Best Supporting Actor: Christopher Plummer (Beginners)
- Best Adapted Screenplay: Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy (Bridget O’Connor, Peter Straughan)
- Best Original Screenplay: The Artist (Michel Hazanavicius)
- Best British Film: Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy
- Academy Fellowship: Martin Scorsese
- Best Animated Film: Rango
- Best Documentary: Senna
- Best Film not in the English Language: The Skin I Live In
- Production Design – Hugo (Dante Ferretti, Francesca Lo Schiavo)
- Best Cinematography: The Artist (Guillaume Schiffman)
- Best Editing: Senna (Gregers Sall, Chris King)
- Best Original Music: The Artist (Ludovic Bource)
- Best Costume Design: The Artist (Mark Bridges)
- Best Sound: Hugo (Philip Stockton, Eugene Gearty, Tom Fleischman, John Midgley)
- Outstanding Debut: Tyrannosaur
- Best Visual Effects: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Pt 2
- Best Make Up & Hair – The Iron Lady (Mark Coulier, J. Roy Helland, Marese Langan)
- Best Short Film: Pitch Black Heist
- Best Short Animation: A Morning Stroll
- Outstanding Contribution To British Cinema: John Hurt
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Special Visual Effects – Harry Potter & the Deathly Hallows II
Short Film – Pitch Black Heist
Short Animation – A Morning Stroll
Harry Potter for VFX? I guess their Anglophilia applies even for the tech categories. Rise totally deserves this award.
Original Music – The Artist (Ludovic Bource) Yes!
YAY for The Artist
tclaw
Sorry buddy but Rise looked like a blurry video game. Potter deserved it.
Overrated.
Sound – Hugo
Editing – Senna OMG
WOW
I think HP deserved it too. I knew the BAFTAS would got it right!
Cinematography – The Artist (Guillaume Schiffman)
The Artist is snatching wigs tonight. Yes!!
Oh yay, a “let’s gush over The Artist like everybody else” ceremony!
Costume Design – The Artist (Mark Bridges) Again!!!
Cinematography for The Artist is a surprise!!!!
The Artist for cinematography? Over War Horse and Hugo? I smell a Weinstein buyout.
and sure Make Up & Hair – The Iron Lady (Mark Coulier, J. Roy Helland, Marese Langan)
Like lemmings (or good,little puppets, doing what Weinstein tells them to,do, you mean…)
Oh noooo Film Not in the English Language – The Skin I Live In
This is sooo wrong!!! The Skin I Live In ? !!!!
Why must A Separation lose? *sigh*
Cinematography and foreign film were surprises
I’m still wondering if Weinstein is flipping out right now about The Artist not winning Best Sound.
They just love British or European Movies.
A Seperation deserves that much more.
Was The Tree of Life nominated for best cinematography? It should be a lock for TToL, damm…
YES!!! The Skin I Live in
Gotta love the British.
A Separation is very good, but also overrated.
Outstanding Debut – Tyrannosaur
Sel – No.
The Iron Lady won best Make Up. Not a surprise, the make up was fantastic.
Congratulations Tyrannosaur. I won’t, however, ever forgiving BAFTA for snubbing Oliva’s towering performance. They also snubbed Keira Knightley’s magical performance in P&P a few years back. Are they really promoting British cinema? Insufferable assholes!
Thank you for posting all this, Ryan! And in such a timely manner! I don’t think any other website on the Internet is doing this. Even the BAFTA site itself is not updating!
It’s a thrill to see “The Artist” sweeping! So far…Could Berenice Bejo win BEST ACTRESS?!?
In the below the line categories this really helps “The Artist.”
Only thing it can’t win is Best Sound! Lolol….
*ever forgive*
Edit button, where art thou??
The Artist is winning because it is by far the best picture of the year it does need Harvey’s help.
Stephen Holt:
“Ever stalwart.”
hey gang, we think the broadcast will begin streaming in an hour, maybe here.
Thank frakking god – Hugo for Production Design!
please. can someone help, is it live?
Watching the ceremony at 5pm EST here in toronto!
No. The ceremony will be on tv in about an hour but already started. The winners are being announced on twitter: http://twitter.com/#!/BAFTA
Supporting Actor – Christopher Plummer Yes Yes
Plummer won best supporting actor. Not a surprise, it’s just his year.
Plummer won supporting actor
thanks
#BAFTA WINNER: Supporting Actor – Christopher Plummer (Beginners)
It is an Oscar wanna be organization, period. Its attempt to try to influence the Oscars is so obvious.
Eh. Predictable wins. Only one I’m disappointing about is Hugo in Production Design. *yawn*
I was hoping Tinker would pick up a tech category or two.
Here’s hoping it gets some love in the big ones.
Outstanding British Film – Tinker Tailor Soldier sure
Oh please. I don’t care if you hated Hugo – it had the most impressive Production Design of the year, hands down.
So, chances for Gary Oldman to upset are increasing…
I hope this bids well for Oldman.
Remaining categories (from bottom to top):
Fellowship
Film
Actor
Actress
Director
Animated Film
Adapted Screenplay
Documentary
Orange Wednesdays Rising Star
Outsanding British Contribution
Original Screenplay
Supporting Actress
I just love how they tweeted that Christopher Plummer is old. XD
I think the tech wins will be the exact same for Oscar, minus the Editing win for Senna.
Supporting Actress – Octavia Spencer (The Help) Wooop.
LOL @ BAFTA nominating The Help for best film. I can’t.
Octavia Spencer won supporting actress
Spencer and Plummer have been and ARE Oscar locks
bravo for them!
Let’s go Woody Allen. Sacrilege if a silent film wins original screenplay.
And this is coming from a Star Wars fan, mind you.
“Sacrilege if a silent film wins original screenplay.”
Sacrilege if Woody’s cliche-ridden scripts wins original screenplay.
PaulH there is more to a screenplay than words. The Artist screenplay is brilliant. I Love Woody;s script to.
Original Screenplay – The Artist boring time..
The Artist won original screenplay…
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSS!!!!!
YESSS! The Artist best original screenplay!!! I hope for the Oscars to copy BAFTAS’ choices, they have been exceptional by now in my opinion
Want to see…
Actor
Actress
Animated Film
Adapted Screenplay
Fuckity fuck fuck…
I LOVE Woody Allen but I am so happy that Midnight in Paris did not win. Did anyone else get the impression that Allen just kept up bringing up the names of literary heavy weights and having Gil say “Wow! You’re [fill in author's name]“. The movie had little depth.
Urgh.
PaulH ,ANNIE HALL IS MUCH BETTER THAN STAR WARS
Best original screenplay for The Artist?? Give me a break.
Let’s just gush over to The Artist so the AMPAS voters will be swung by our decisions.
Lame, and what makes BAFTA think Hollywood film industry is their film industry?
Lame
Sorry for being harsh. BAFTA is lame.
It’s for the BAFTA for Outstanding Contribution to British Cinema given to John Hurt…
Don`t worry! Midnight In Paris would never win anything at the BAFTA. It`s not Midnight In London.
No, Edkargir, but thanks for playing. The one time I rooted for Allen, and BAFTA gives him the shaft. I preferred Bridesmaids in screenplay, but that had two chances; slim and none, and slim just left on the last space shuttle.
One more reason 2011 will be remembered as an utterly forgettable year in film. A silent film wins freaking screenplay. Kill me now.
RobertlowercaseA
Why you mad tho?
BAFTA…you are but a shadow of what you once were. Now you’re just AMPAS 2.0.
The Artist for screenplay? I could have written that script with a logline, a quiet room, and an hour of time. And I’m a hack!
I could not care less about BAFTA and that last award is an example of why….best screenplay to something any one of us would/could have written in an entry-level screenwriting class. Complete joke.
“Sacrilege if a silent film wins original screenplay”
You do realize that even silent films have screenplays…don’t you?
Okay, I’m not for The Artist winning screenplay, but some of you guys are really showing your ignorance of what constitutes screenwriting.
Deena, it is funny that many assholes here that have annoyed Ryan or Sasha are mostly the lovers of The Artist. Look at your “YESS…”
Yes what? It is a BAFTA, an organization who has been trying to be part of Oscars and Hollywood glamour, it is self congratulatory and embarrassing.
BAFTA has always been a joke, and it will always be. You are from UK or something??
well, i don’t think so, Jesse!
@filmboymichael: It’s not that The Artist is silent. It’s that its story lacks complexity and borrows the plot from other films.
BAFTA’s gonna have to pull some goodies out of the bag in the remaining categories to keep a lot of people like me interested going forward. If they just want to mimic AMPAS, what’s the bloody point?
John W, in your fucking opinion. God…
John W. Totally agree with you. Sasha and Ryan, sorry about the use of axxxxxx word on Deena.
I think Academy and WGA will still award Woody Allen.
I seriously doubt AMPAS voters care about what BAFTA members think.
John Hurt should won the oscar from The Elephant Man.
I can stomach The Artist winning best picture since it’s been pre-ordained by Weinstein’s relentless influence peddling for some time now. But goddammit, screenplay needs to be awarded to a movie where there’s, you know, SOUND, and hear the words spoken instead of them being written on cue cards.
PAULH, I don’t want to kill you now I” wait til the masterpiece THE ARTIST WINS best picture in a fort night at the OSCARS
Steve 50, BAFTA has always tried to mimic the Oscars, and at the same time, they have this “Best British Film” category as a guilty driven category to mask their obvious and obnoxious attempt of being part of the Hollywood film industry and influencing the Oscar voters, it goes hand in hand.
Look at how The Artist sweeps everything, even the cinematography, and screenplay. It is going to sweep Best Directing, Best Acting, and Best Picture. It will have win 4 British Oscar Mimicking Awards tonight. Just watch!!
@Jesse Crall….
No, I disagree with you….whenever people mention the artists’ screenplay, it is always prefaced with that it’s silent…like how could a silent film possibly win an award?!
Paul H, it is not Harvey Weinstein that is making the BAFTA voters totally go for The Artist, it is the BAFTA members themselves who try to become part of Hollywood glamour and influence of AMPAS voters.
@ Paul H
I disagree with you. Midnight in Paris deserve and will take home this trophy at the Oscars but WALL-E is virtually all mute and deserved to win the Original Screenplay Oscar and lost because it was animated and not nominated for Best Picture.
@Edkargir…movies that win Best Picture are usually forgotten…winning an Oscar is like a death sentence these days.
Orange Rising Star Award: Adam Deacon
LOL, okay… if some of you want to have the opinion that screenwriting is just spoken dialogue, I guess I won’t stand in your way.
How could by BAFTA be a joke when Stephen Fry is their go-to guy for hosting? I mean Fry >>>>>>>> Crystal. And I like Billy Crystal.
I can’t wait til next year when a 3-D stick figure movie wins Best Picture! Go Harvey Weinstein!
C’mon guys you had to know that this was going to happen when The Artist won Cinematography right? It’s an Artist sweep here.
And you should probably get used to hearing that The Artist is the best original screenplay since it has at least a 50% chance of winning the Oscar. (probably more, momentum is all The Artist’s side)
The fact that The Artist is sweeping makes me believe that Gary Oldman won’t be winning tonight.
What a complete joke.
The Winner of BAFTA
I understand about Best Picture, but best original screenplay? It is not so much about its being a silent film, it is such a unoriginal screenplay that is full of cliches and predictable and sappy moments.
Academy members, please have some some and don’t get influenced by BAFTA that happens to take place 9 days before the Oscar polls close,thanks.
RobertlowercaseA,
Seriously??? Judi Dench takes out her BAFTA ballot and asks, “What will the AMPAS body vote for? I want to mirror that.” In the previous 6 years, BAFTA’s choice for Best Film agreed with AMPAS’s Best Film 3 times. Not exactly a great track record if they are trying to mirror or influence Oscar.
Documentary – Senna
Paul, Gary Oldman is not going o win. Dujadin will.
Documentary: Senna
@filmboymichael: You’re right about the problem with deriding The Artist’s script SIMPLY because it’s silent, and I agree that such criticism makes for faulty logic. But were the script more complex/layered/original, the fact that it’s silent wouldn’t bother thoughtful individuals.
Lmao. The Artist doesn’t deserve to win screenplay, but it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that it’s a silent film. Like, are some of you kidding?
Gary Oldman will win tonight I think.
A silent movie wins original screenplay – that I can live with. But I don’t like the fact that this movie is everything but original and yes, it is cute, but the screenplay is mediocre at best.
Senna, one of the best films of 2011 and the big motivation for the changes that will come in the Oscar Documentary category.
Matt, that is not exactly very cleaver of you to use one voter, Judy Dench to form your argument.
There are other voters, not just Judy Dench. That’s one voter. Oh, everyone BAFTA member is Judy Dench?? You are out of touch with reality. How funny, the BAFTA takes place 9 days before the Oscar polls close. If AMPAS moved the date earlier, I can guarantee you that the BAFTA would have moved the date of the awards too.
Wake up!!
I don’t mind if The Artist takes Best Director and Best Picture, but please give Best Actor to Oldman.
Come on! THE ARTIST has a cliche script, but MIDNIGHT IN PARIS that is what Woody does lately – copy-pasting himself – doesn’t?!?
And since somebody mentioned it, why is it okay for a film you call predictable and full of cliches to win best picture, but not original screenplay?!
I think it’s weirder for a movie like Avatar to win cinematography than a for a silent movie to win original screenplay. Mainly because that last one isn’t weird at all.
This really is the first year in my entire 24 years of existence that I won’t be watching the Oscars. I mean, who really cares? We all know who’s going to win, and no one’s speeches (other than maybe Viola Davis) even make me interested. Jean DuJardin will dance around, do tricks with a dying dog and maybe pull out his dick and guess what….all of Hollywood will get down on their freaking knees!
Original Screenplay Award went to ‘The Artist’ ? Are they serious ? Well then, here comes ‘The Artist-sweep’…
It is a good/great film, but if there is a category it does NOT deserve, it is original screenplay, considering the story is remarkably unoriginal (basically A Star Is Born) and though, the execution is great, I think it has more to do with the directing achievement than the screenplay. The STORY of ‘The Artist’ should not have been seriously considered for screenplay awards, in my opinion. My two cents.
It was fun. I like how they distributed the tech categories somewhat evenly, which is something that Oscar often does not do. It pains me to think that Hugo could win as few as two Oscars, that Woody could be snubbed etc., but the Weinstein domino effect is working like a charm.
Good to see The Skin I Live In win
And since somebody mentioned it, why is it okay for a film you call predictable and full of cliches to win best picture, but not original screenplay?!
I don’t think it should. I think it’s a trite little piece of fluff and I’m embarrassed that everyone is jacking off to it….it honestly boggles my very mind.
Avatar clearly deserved its cinematography award, WTF?
The Artist unoriginal? I guess I’ve missed all the other silent films of late…my bad.
My favorite is Gary Oldman but I believed Fassbender would take the BAFTA for Best Actor. But now with all this love for “The Artist” I’m starting to think that Dujardin will win…
If it’s all about Harvey Weinstein, then why didn’t he destroy Avatar and the Hurt Locker 2 years ago when he actually had the better movie (Inglourious Basterds)
The screenplay is the weakest element of The Artist, period. The only reason it won was because BAFTA wanted The Artist to sweep huge so they could try to influence the Oscar voters, and in March, they can go “See, we are important as well, just like AMPAS”.
Adapted Screenplay: Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy
#BAFTA WINNER: Adapted Screenplay – Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy
Corran. It is not all about Weistein. If he was the reason, Inglorious Bastards would’ve won over THL and Avatar.
Adapted Screenplay – Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy
where is the live stream of the tape delayed broadcast? thanks!
@PaulH
To me, cinematography equals camerawork. If you’re filming bluescreens and it looks absolutely amazing, then you should get the oscar for special effects, not for cinematography. But I guess most people draw the line somewhere else.
Adapted Screenplay – Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy
Momentum for Oldman!!!.
Ha, another big surprise, uh??
Tinker Tailor winning best adapted screenplay, mm, i wonder why, because it is UK??? They had to vote something UK, right?? OH please.
RobertlowercaseA,
My argument is just as clever as yours. One person does not represent all of BAFTA, nor does BAFTA vote as a single body. Do you honestly think the individual voters are voting for what they think will win the Oscar? I don’t. I think they will vote for who or what they like best. Can you imagine a voter (Judi Dench or any other person you want to imagine) thinking, “well, I thought Hugo was the best movie of the year, and I didn’t really care for The Artist. However, since I think The Artist will win the Oscar for best picture, I’ll vote for that.” Makes no sense.
“unoriginal screenplay that is full of cliches and predictable and sappy moments”
that’s precisely why it works
“If it’s all about Harvey Weinstein, then why didn’t he destroy Avatar and the Hurt Locker 2 years ago when he actually had the better movie (Inglourious Basterds)?”
I wish he had.
Scary, that’s no momentum for Gary, Tinker’s win is a reflection of BAFTA’s guilt in nominating 98 percent American films.
Tesh, here : http://livetvcafe.net/video/X6R47664W52Y/BBC-ONE
another live stream?
http://t.co/MvqeANmG
Matt, you are using one voter, one voter to form your argument.
How many Judi Denches are out there,uh?
Oscar voters don’t care about BAFTA, but BAFTA members care about the Oscars, just look at the nominations.
animated film: Rango
The Hurt Locker didn`t deserve to take Original Screenplay. And sound editing and maybe sound mixing. But it won. In a sweep, anything can happen. The Artist may perfectly get Picture, Directing, Actor, Screenplay, Cinematography, Editing, Costumes and Score.
Did they delay on BBC1?
RobertlowercaseA – OK It’s my Opinion.
TINKER TAILOR…..great that it’s won Best British Film and Adapted Screenplay. SENNA winning Documentary and Editing shows how ridiculous it was the Oscars not nominating it for Best Documentary. Rising Star Adam Deacon – I’ve actually never heard of him!
Judajin is winning best actor, you just watch.
Scary, I just want you to be realistic.
Best Animated: Rango
Midnight in Paris reads like a compilation of Spark notes essays on Hemmingway and Fitzgerald.
Rango won best animated film. I’m OK with that… but Tintin was equally good. But this year has been one of the worst for animated pictures (we miss Up!, Nemo, Incredibles and the GOOD Pixar).
Yes, BBC is not live streaming it, the show started two hours ago
TTSS winning for Adapted Screenplay makes this fiasco all worth it for me. The Best Screenplay of the year by far, as it is very literary and dense! Something that didn’t assume we were complete saps/idiots.
Actor & Picture wins for TTSS, and Director win for Marty (yeah right) would turn this whole thing around for me.
Thanks for the link, Ryan
I don’t know. Is Twitter delay?
Sorry for that.
thanks guys!
“Midnight in Paris reads like a compilation of Spark notes essays on Hemmingway and Fitzgerald.”
Obviously, you don’t know what a good screenplay is.
Not best adapted screenplay for The Descendants? well, it wasn’t THAT good to be a lock, so… OK
Best Director: Hazanavicious
Director – Michel Hazanavicius
Director – Michel Hazanavicius (The Artist)
The Artist won best director… obviously.
Leading Actress – Meryl Streep
Yep, Streep wins. Can’t say I expected less.
Leading Actress – Meryl Streep (The Iron Lady)
Finaly!! People with head! The best performance of the yeard has been awarded
I guess we can expect yet another Best Actress article shortly.
Best Actress: Meryl Streep
MERYYYYYLLLL!!!!!
YES! We have a race for Best Actress!
Oh God…Meryl Streep loses her shoe on her way to the stage but Colin Firth is there to rescue her!
Meryl Streep loses her shoe on her way to the stage but Colin Firth is there to rescue her! #Bafta
LOL
I’m starting to think that this acting awards are going to be the deserving ones ones: Spencer, Plummer, Streep and Dujardin.
MERYL!!!!!!!
Shaking and crying you guys. One step closer to the Oscar.
Cinderella Meryl
. First she forgets her glasses at the GGs and now her shoe lol
Meryl! Sasha seemed pretty pissed judging by her twitter snipe, but I’m happy!
“Meryl Streep loses her shoe on her way to the stage but Colin Firth is there to rescue her!”
GAWD, get it together. You’d think she’d never done this before.
Best Actor:
Should: Fassy
Will: Dujardin
Best Actress: Meryl Streep
Someone is gonna be pissed.
I thought The Descendents should have won adaped sp . Since many people have complained that the Artist takes from other movies. maybe it should have won BEST ADAPTED SCREEN play as well. Great choice for best director
Congratulations! I´m so happy!!!
Go Meryl!
Hey Sonja, sometimes it´s worth to have some hope!
Leading Actor – Jean Dujardin (The Artist)
Leading Actor – Jean Dujardin (The Artist)
Leading Actor : Dujardin !!!!
Oh no! Best Actor to Jean Dujardin. I really wanted Gary Oldman.
Best Actor: Jean Dujardin
TOLD YA!
Oh well. Better luck next time, Oldman.
Congrats to Jean Dujardin.
Dujardin wins :/
DJw, stop being someone who only comes here to troll the site founder, it’s pathetic.
Is Jean Durjardin the new Roberto Beninghi?
Enjoy your 15 minutes, Dujardin; you’ll never come ’round this way again…
SO, other than adap. Screenplay and British film, what was the “B” in BAFTA supposed to represent? Not most of the winners – or presenters, for that matter.
Pitty for Oldman and Fassbender…
Jean Dujardin is a lock for the Oscar now, imo!
For me, now it is official!
The Oscars will go in two weeks to following people and movies:
Picture: The Artist
Director: Michel Hazanavicius – The Artist
Leading Actor: Jean Dujardin – The Artist
Leading Actress: Meryl Streep – The Iron Lady
Supporting Actor: Christopher Plummer – Beginners
Supporting Actress: Octavia Spencer – The Help
Best Film – The Artist
Not Quite Simon, America LOVED The Help, Viola will win Best Actress.
Man, it was a good movie but not THIS good. I recorded the bbc America broadcast later but I’m gonna skip it. Zzzzz
Some films are trashed here because they are “manipulative, feel good or over sentimental“(Forrest Gump… but Benjamin Button not, Million Dollar Baby and Slumdog Millionare)>
Some performances are defended because they are over sentimental.
Can`t quite understand.
Man. Some of you guys are so vindictive. Dujardin gave a great performance.
Cong. The Artist
Sad about Tintin
Still, on the surface it seems totally predictable. But last year BAFTA gave their Best Director and Best Supporting Actor and Actress awards to David Fincher, Geoffrey Rush and Helena Bonham Carter. At the Oscars these awards then went to Tom Hooper, Christian Bale and Melissa Leo.
DuJardin IS the Artist. He totally deserves to win. There`s no way this film can win Picture, Directing, Score…. but no Actor. The film is his performance.
I think the BAFTAS are really more acurate than the SAGs or the GGs. I really believe the acting awards, director, script and picture are the future oscars.
One another note: I’m really starting to dislike the way Viola Davis reacts when Meryl Streep wins something.
@Matt @Simon, Let’s not kid ourselves. We don’t know whether Viola or Meryl will win. The BAFTA has, I believe, a perfect record of predicting the Oscar winner since it moved to before Oscar. The Globe has the second best prediction rate (though of course it gives out two awards). The SAG has been wrong quite a few times, but is still a good predictor. The Help has the box office. Meryl has Harvey. It’s a very, very close race. Anyone who claims to know anything about that one is fooling himself.
THE ACTING CATEGORIES REALLY MIRRORS THE OSCAR WINNERS THAN THE SAG WINNERS
@Sel how did Viola react?
@Dan Ashcroft, Rush and Carter are both British, so that makes sense. Leo and Bale had won literally everything else.
This is the first BAFTAs I can remember when no British actor or Actress has won.
@Sel how did Viola react?
I’m gonna guess: honestly.
I don’t know…I’m hopeful that Clooney can pull off a win, even though I’m not the biggest supporter of that performance. He pulled off a win for Syriana with only a GG win. This go-round, he has a GG and a BFCA, so that must mean something?
@ kelly D
Clooney won in a not so strong category in a year in which he was also nominated for directing and screenplay.
This year he`s in a strong category agains the actor who is the reason of the existence of the locked Best Picture winner. It`s a lot tougher… and he already has one.
CONGRADULATION to The Artist .
Jean DuJardin’s win here and upcoming Oscar win is a disgrace!
@ mdb: Rush is not British, he is Australian.
Apparently indifferent. I though they appreciate eachother very much (at least we know Meryl Streep does sincerily). I hope this whole award thing doesn’t break their friendship.
Meryl’s fans are very happy. enjoy fanboys fangirls but I have a pity news for you
this is Merly’s last award. Viola Davis will win.
@ MATT
I compare this situation in the category for Leading Actress with the sitiuation in 2008. Julie Christie was in 2008 the totally favourite to win for Leading Actress. Plus she has won the BFCA, Golden Globe and SAG Award for her performance in “Away from her”. And she was nominated for the Bafta and Oscar but she lost both award against Marion Cotilliard for her stunning phenomenal work in “La vie en Rose”. This year everyone is expecting that Viola Davis will win for “The Help”, plus she has won the BFCA, SAG and Golden Satellite Award and she has lost now the Bafta to Meryl Streep who gives out from the nominees truly the best performance! In “The Iron Lady” she doesn’t play Margret Thather, she is Margret Thatcher! And so was Marion Cotilliard in “La vie en Rose”. She doesn’t play Edith Piaf she was Edith Piaf!! So, do you understand what i mean!? But we will see wich actress will take home the golden guy!? Will it be Meryl Streep who could win her 3rd, or will it be Viola Davis or Michelle Williams who could win their first golden guy!?
So that’s it for another year year. Next year it’ll be all about THE HOBBIT, LINCOLN, ANNA KARENINA and LES MISERABLES, won’t it? Will Christopher Nolan finally get the Best Director nod for THE DARK KNIGHT RISES? I doubt it.
@JP: The reason all of those movies you mentioned are better than Forrest Gump is that Gump falls into an EXTREMELY HIGH level of schmaltz whereas the other ones are emotional but not corny. I still don’t understand how that movie won BP.
If Streep wins the Oscar for that piece of shit film, she ain’t never winning an Oscar again b/c people will truly be over her. Which is fine by me, make room for someone else each year and stop throwing her up for anything she shoots.
And after the awful The Lovely Bones, I’m not anticipating The Hobbit that much. I think Moonrise Kingdom, Bin Laden, and Les Miserables look most interesting.
So what Weinstein film is winning Best Everything next year XD?
Deena, is the annoying gloating strictly meant for Sasha, REALLY necessary ? I would love to see Meryl win her 3rd, too, but I would also LOVE it if it were for a GREAT film…and even though NOW we have a race in the Best Actress category, you do realize that the SAG Award is slightly more important than BAFTA, right ? To be fair, based on the last 10 years (10/7 vs. 10/6), not MUCH more important, but is still considered a stronger precursor Oscar-wise for a reason. What you should REALLY take into consideration, that ‘The Iron Lady’ is a British story, one that received BAFTA nominations in screenplay and even in another acting category…’The Help’ – AND the Academy/Oscar – is American…and it received an Oscar best picture nomination…something ‘The Iron Lady’ didn’t even come close to…I am NOT saying Davis gave the better performance…I am saying you should prepare yourself that the factors I’ve just mentioned will be probably taken into account when it comes to voting for the Oscars.
I’m really happy I don’t get BBC America so I didn’t have to actually see this travesty.
Congrats to TTSS and Hugo for their well deserved wins, though! I still can’t believe ToL wasn’t even nominated for Cinematography. What a joke.
Nothing< There is enormous LINCOLN
Woohoo for Dujardin and Streep!
@ m1
I like Forrest Gump. And I really liked Benjamin Button. They are not masterpieces. But it`s obviously Benjamin Button is Forrest Gump twin brother. The narrative structure, the main characters, the finale with the couple not finishing together… And Forrest Gump is trashed and Benjamin Button was defended here over Slumdog.
Steven Fry should present every awards show.
Phantom
And your cyber bullying is equally not necessary. I haven’t said anything that most people on this thread haven’t already said yet you single me out and accuse me of “gloating” Sasha. Just stop! stop!
Lincoln will be a force come next awards season.
People shouldn’t worry that this is Meryl’s last chance at Oscar. She’s about to do August: Osage County which will guarantee at least a nomination for her.
I thought the BAFTA’s are just airing as watching them now. Must have someone in the room watching Violas face right now.
And someone ban Deena – Far too aggressive and mean spirited.
Artist deserved and Rango again won undeserved award (Tintin should)
@Alper:Comments like yours don´t bother us anymore!
I personally don’t champion Benjamin Button over Slumdog, so you’ll have to ask someone else about that. But I prefer BB to Forrest Gump because tonally, it wasn’t uneven and the attempts at humor were never cringe-worthy. Forrest Gump is too in love with itself and it tries to convey a message I don’t find particularly refined. Is it “stupid people can overcome difficulty too”? I still don’t know. I like Hanks’ performance and the visuals though.
Why the people here are so horrified for Streep to win an award on BEST ACTING for so-so movie. IT’S NOT THE QUALITY OF THE MOVIE WHAT IT’S BEING AWARDED, IT’S THE PERFORMANCE and she has made the best performance of the year. The award says it clearly: B-E-S-T L-E-A-D-I-N-G A-C-T-R-E-S-S. If they were about to award the actors of the best movies… then we will have a Mark Hamill win over an Al Pacino, or a Dev Patel over a Sean Penn.
Why is everyone getting their panties in a wad that The Artist won Best Original Screenplay? That was so entirely predictable because that was the ONLY nomination for Midnight in Paris…they obviously didn’t like it nearly as much as AMPAS and so the fact that it lost is not surprising in the least.
Have faith, though, in The Academy. MIP has picture, directing, screenplay, and art direction nods. The Academy liked it quite a lot and I’m fairly certain that screenplay is where they will decide to reward it (and AMPAS LOVES Woody and would be glad to reward him again in a heartbeat).
I think Jean Dujardin’s win makes him the frontrunner for best actor. I have a feeling The Descendants is going to go the way of George Clooney’s last film, Up in the Air…ZERO Oscar wins. It has a lot of admirers but no one who is truly passionate. Exactly like the trajectory of Up in the Air.
The supporting categories are SEALED (although if Max von Sydow’s name is called I will probably shit myself. Could you imagine the reaction in the room?)
I really think Best Actress is a coin toss between Meryl and Viola. BAFTA was Michelle Williams’s last chance for viability, so she will have to suffice this year for a third place finish, sadly.
I think Adapted Screenplay will go to Moneyball, but I’d say Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy is a strong alternate (even more so than The Descendants, which is dead).
@ Cin
If this film is good, I predict it will tie Titanic and All About Eve with 14 Academy Awards Nominations. And The Hobbit also has this potential. It just has to get nominated for every award The Fellowship of The Ring was plus a Sound Editing nod.
Here is another stream – stream2watch.me/live-tv/bbc-1-live-stream
“The BAFTA has, I believe, a perfect record of predicting the Oscar winner since it moved to before Oscar.”
What? Not even close. Go back and do your research!
ABC better make plans to preview Twilight Breaking Dawn 2 footage during the Oscar telecast because only the hardcore fans at gonna watch this snoozefest.
LINCOLN has great chance for 14 noms
And on Tuesday Streep gets her Golden Bear in Berlin!
P.S People, can you say which movie had won most BAFTAS?
“Why the people here are so horrified for Streep to win an award on BEST ACTING for so-so movie. IT’S NOT THE QUALITY OF THE MOVIE WHAT IT’S BEING AWARDED, IT’S THE PERFORMANCE and she has made the best performance of the year. The award says it clearly: B-E-S-T L-E-A-D-I-N-G A-C-T-R-E-S-S. If they were about to award the actors of the best movies… then we will have a Mark Hamill win over an Al Pacino, or a Dev Patel over a Sean Penn.“
Perfect. Jessica Lange, Charlize Theron, Halle Berry… all of them won for masterpieces, right? Meryl has one Oscar for a Best Picture winner and another one for a very good film. She can win for anything she does if she has the best performance. And she has. I`d be OK if Viola won. What I don`t understand is this argument that she should win because of the performance. No. It`s not about the performance. Her performance is in the same level of Julia Roberts, Halle Berry, Nicole Kidman, Reese Witherspoon and even Sandra Bullock. She is a better actress than all the ones I listed but her performance in The Help doesn`t show how a great actress she is. I`d be OK if she won for some arguments: her effort to get lead roles, the great actress she is… but never about her performance. She`s as deserving as all the Actress I listed. The Oscars have to award its stars and lifetime efforts. But it`s not about the performance… it`s almost never about it.
The top categories winners will surely win the OSCARS! The Artist, Streep, Dujardin and Michel.
@Mark. Why should they ban Deena? You may not agree with her views on the awards race but there’s nothing vile or mean-spirited about her. It’s called sarcasm.
I don’t know about The Hobbit’s chances in the major categories next year. I think part of the reason why the LoTR films were recognized was because Jackson filmed all three films at the same time. It was a monumental achievement – one that probably won’t be repeated anytime in the near future. The circumstances are different with The Hobbit.
As for Christopher Nolan and TDKR, they changed the rules of the Best Picture category in light of TDK’s “snub” (Personally, I don’t think it was). So if TDKR is anywhere near as good as TDK, I could see it getting a nomination – along with Nolan.
Deena Jones’ wig
“And your cyber bullying is equally not necessary. I haven’t said anything that most people on this thread haven’t already said yet you single me out and accuse me of “gloating” Sasha. Just stop! stop!”
Cyber-bullying ? OK, so tell me please, is that a bad joke or you are THAT dellusional ? YOU…accusing…ANYONE….with….CYBER-BULLYING…well THAT is rich! YOU, who viciously went after ANYONE who dared to suggest that Meryl Streep isn’t the only deserving Best Actress contender this season ? Well…interesting. Here is a little hint – and if I had the patience, I could find A LOT more ‘hints’ from the past few weeks, trust me – why I find this hilarious :
Deena Jones’ wig says:
February 12, 2012 at 1:22 pm
I can only imagine Sasha’s reaction right now LMAO!!!!!!
If THAT isn’t gloating, I don’t know what is…and that’s just the tip of the iceberg. Do yourself a favor and STOP embarassing yourself by playing the victim card when in reality, IF there is a bully here, it’s YOU. You remind me of Matt last year, he did the same thing…and it was just as annoying then as it is now.
@Zooey…people are perhaps okay with The Artist winning for Best Picture because this is an honor for it being fun and light in such a desperate time. But when it boils down to it, the glamor of this film comes from its stars. It’s a double-edged sword…they don’t mind a film winning but when it wins specifically for the cliches that they are trying to ignore, well…
@ Cin
I`m a HUGE Nolan fan. But somehow they don`t like him. But I see Dark Knight being nominated unless the movie is not good. It (and Disney`s WALL-E) are the reasons of the change. It could be an apologize nomination for the film.
Entire industry should be embarrassed. a movie is shot in black and white so it deserves to win cinematography? these voters are just sheep – they vote for their favorites in categories that they know little or nothing about. and jean dujardin winning best actor???? I’m seriously irritated by all this. it’s like harvey weinstein roofied the entire industry. the artist is just not that good – THERE – I said it. cute, clever, adorable little gimmick of a movie. it’s not nearly as good as the silents of their era. I have to wonder if everyone is just content to let Harvey have whatever he wants. The movie is cute — it is not the best achievement of the year and certainly not the best cinematography of the year.
All honestly, it was predicted that Meryl Streep would win Best for “Iron Lady.” The BAFTA’s love honoring their own folks and this is their attempt to influence the Oscars by awarding Streep’s Thatcher. However, the reaction for Viola Davis @the SAG Awards (standing ovation), etc. illustrates that her peers are behind her. BFCA and SAG are more true indicators of how the Oscar will go.
Has anyone ever thought that her own peers (Streep’s) may have a “backlash” against her (i.e. the nomination is her win)? In a very competitive year, she shouldn’t even have been nominated for this film; she gets nominated because she “Meryl Streep.” This year, both she and long-time thespians Glenn Close obtained nominations that belonged to other actresses; however, the “heavyweight”/respected in the industry garned their nomination……
Besides Viola is in Best Picture and her film has the most nominations of the other nominated actresses…..that worked well for Sandra Bullock and Kate Winslet in recent years
Vamos Viola!!!!
Deena Jones’ wig
Did you even READ what I wrote ? If you think my comment (below) was bullying, AND saying something like “I can only imagine Sasha’s reaction right now LMAO!!!!!!” isn’t annoying gloating (just look at the number of your exclamation marks !), then you should read these comments AGAIN!
“Deena, is the annoying gloating strictly meant for Sasha, REALLY necessary ? I would love to see Meryl win her 3rd, too, but I would also LOVE it if it were for a GREAT film…and even though NOW we have a race in the Best Actress category, you do realize that the SAG Award is slightly more important than BAFTA, right ? To be fair, based on the last 10 years (10/7 vs. 10/6), not MUCH more important, but is still considered a stronger precursor Oscar-wise for a reason. What you should REALLY take into consideration, that ‘The Iron Lady’ is a British story, one that received BAFTA nominations in screenplay and even in another acting category…’The Help’ – AND the Academy/Oscar – is American…and it received an Oscar best picture nomination…something ‘The Iron Lady’ didn’t even come close to…I am NOT saying Davis gave the better performance…I am saying you should prepare yourself that the factors I’ve just mentioned will be probably taken into account when it comes to voting for the Oscars.”
There aren’t really that many Streep fangirls, they are just loud and annoying. Viola isn’t even in my top 10 performances but Streep bitch-ass minions should get lives. Scum of the earth
Oops……BEST ACTRESS—-left out a word.
I absolutely have to agree. the cinematography for THE ARTIST was good, solid work. But nothing special. It did not deserve to win. For some reason, people just seem to blindly love The Artist. I found it to be enjoyable, but it never registered for me as among the best of the year. But that’s the great thing about art — it’s subjective. Apparently I’m in the minority. There are 10 movies I can think of that I enjoyed more or felt were bigger accomplishments.
Roel: Meryl Streep is not a “british folk”. She is AMERICAN! Of course in her last movie her identity can lead to confusion, but she is still a New Jersey woman.
I’m holding out hope that the Oscars will honor George and Viola, Scorsese for Director, MIP for screenplay. It could happen, folks, and wont we be jumping up and down in front of our tv sets!!!
I remember when Baftas used to be more discerning. Not anymore.
“lenser64 says:
February 12, 2012 at 2:17 pm
I absolutely have to agree. the cinematography for THE ARTIST was good, solid work. But nothing special. It did not deserve to win. For some reason, people just seem to blindly love The Artist. I found it to be enjoyable, but it never registered for me as among the best of the year. But that’s the great thing about art — it’s subjective. Apparently I’m in the minority. There are 10 movies I can think of that I enjoyed more or felt were bigger accomplishments.”
You are not alone. I’m in your minority.
Meh, another Slumdog Millionaire year…
Last year Baftas have 6 awards to The King Speech but the Oscars only 4. So we may see different results for The Artist in a few weeks.
Deena Jones’ wig
““Best Actress: Meryl Streep
Someone is gonna be pissed.” – Armando
“Meryl! Sasha seemed pretty pissed judging by her twitter snipe” – mdb
But oh yeah Phantom, I’m the only one who made a comment about Sasha’s reaction right? Girl, bye! Don’t bother responding because I am ignoring you.”
PLEASE, quote me when I said you were the only one. Guess what : you CAN’T, because I did NOT, which once again proves that stating something like ‘you will be ignoring me’ doesn’t say much, because you have been doing just that so far,too : you don’t LISTEN to what people try to say OR God forbid, start a CIVILIZED conversation, you don’t react to others’ fact-based arguments, you just go into attack-mode whenever someone tries to reason with you.
Meanwhile I can quote you saying “I haven’t said anything that most people on this thread haven’t already said” and then you come up with TWO people out of 250+ comments (!) who pointed out the same thing – and for the record NEITHER did it in such GLOATING fashion as you did Miss Laugh My Ass Off Exclamation Mark – and you expect me, to what ? Admit that you’re right just because you accused me of cyber-bullying which in your world means, that someone is pointing out your rudeness towards the OWNER of the site you so often visit ? Well…guess again !
@lenser64, @CT
Count me in your minority. While I appreciate The Artist, it never hit me on the emotional level it apparently hit others. (Having said that, I’m rooting for Jean Dujardin come Oscar night, or rather rooting against Clooney)
And I stopped caring about the Best Actress race altogether. Just not worth it anymore.
Sel, I am well aware that Streep is not British! I know she’s American. My statement was the BAFTA awarded Streep for playing one of their own (Thatcher)……they also have a tendency of awarding British actors for the BAFTA instead of their American counterparts……I believe this is only Meryl’s 2nd BAFTA after “Sophie’s Choice”……..
Even though she may be rooting for Viola (for publicity purposes),Meryl wants the Oscar now for this role…..with Weinstein in her corner, it is a strong possibility; however, it is unfortunate that it is for a crappy, campy film like this. I am a die-hard Meryl Streep fan and I almost left during this movie……her role in this film channels Faye Dunaway (Mommie Dearest)and Jane Fonda (Morning After)as campy/”over the top”.
I think Meryl has planned out her campaign to win an Oscar—play a British person (many Academy award members are British–hence Tilda Swinton’s surprise Oscar win), she plays a “real person,” which has worked well for some actresses recently (Witherspoon, Roberts, etc.), she ages in the film/changes her appearance (Kidman, Winslet) and has Weinstein behind her (Winslet, Cruz, etc.)
All she needed was to come out nude (lots of recent winners—Portman, Berry, etc.) and star in a Best Picture film (Winslet, Bullock, etc.)
Even though there is sentiment for Meryl to win for playing Thatcher, many didn’t like her and Meryl almost makes a mockery of her, whom she herself didn’t care for her political “conservative” views…..
Many feel that Davis is overdue from “Doubt”, where she easily came in a strong second to Cruz (at least it appeared) and she could be riding this coattail to victory (standing o @the SAGS). Although Streep has come close to winning in recent years, she was probably clearly a distance second (Devil Wears Prada)and Bullock was so beloved, the Academy felt it was time to award her and she may never obtain role she as hers…….maybe she wasn’t even close in “Julie/Julia”—plus it was a comedy. In recent years, she has come close to winning; Meryl, of course, would have the last laugh, for winning for this role.
@ David F.
“Entire industry should be embarrassed. a movie is shot in black and white so it deserves to win cinematography? these voters are just sheep – they vote for their favorites in categories that they know little or nothing about. and jean dujardin winning best actor????“
Not really. The only black-and-white film that won Cinematography in the last 20 years is Schindler`s List. The Man Who Wasn`t There, The White Ribbon and Good Night and Good Luck lost.
The Artist win here is what we call a sweep. The Lord of The Rings deserved to beat City of God for best editing for example? Of course not. But in a sweep anything can happen.
I used to prefer the days when the BAFTAs were terribly parochial and awarded British talent. When Judi Dench and the late Denholm Elliot were a shoo-in for whatever they did. Now they seem obsessed with pre-empting the Oscars. What is wrong with a British awards ceremony choosing Gary Oldman and Tilda Switnon? Go back 20 years and see the difference: Best Director Alan Parker (THE COMMITMENTS), Best Actor Anthony Hopkins (SILENCE OF THE LAMBS), Best Supporting Actor Alan Rickman (ROBIN HOOD: PRINCE OF THIEVES).
Yay Meryl! Yay Meryl! Yay Meryl!
But The Artist for Best Original Screenplay? What a fucking cop-out.
Am I deluding myself into thinking that this time Streep actually has a shot at winning? And I ask this in the humblest possible way.
“The Lord of The Rings deserved to beat City of God for best editing for example?”
Um…yes. Beat like a drum, actually.
Overall: YUCK
Except for Best Actress and Best Screenplay (original and adapted) I think this is how the Oscar will go.
For Actress I think it will be Viola Davis.
Original Screenplay will be Midnight in Paris (Although, The Artist does have a shot)
Adapted will be The Descendants.
“Am I deluding myself into thinking that this time Streep actually has a shot at winning? And I ask this in the humblest possible way.”
Nope. She does have a shot at winning, a pretty good shot. It’s her or Davis, obviously. This feels like the only acting race that is still up in the air (sorry, Clooney). I’m still leaning toward Davis winning the Oscar, but I could see it going either way.
After having seen “The Artist” and after having thought about it (although not having seen it for a 2nd time) I have to say that I don’t get the awards-hype (including today’s BAFTA Awards rain) as well as the “wow, what a great film”-hype since I would have chosen a different way of telling a story of a silent film star being displaced by sound film (e.g. “Pleasentville”-like with all the other people talking after sound film was being introduced but George Valentin still “speaking” through the here and there displayed texts). And I wouldn’t even consider it a tribute to (silent) film since it’s pretty much just about a person suffering from unemployment, only shown in black and white and without any words. But that’s of course just a first evaluation.
Gage Creed
You are most certainly NOT delluding yourself, as it turned out several times in recent years, the British-vote COUNTS when it comes to the Oscars, especially when it comes to Best Actress contenders who lost the Lead Actress SAG (Marion Cotillard, Kate Winslet, Nicole Kidman) BUT pulled off the Golden Globe-BAFTA combo. What makes it even more likely that Meryl Streep is either the frontrunner or one of the all-time closest-runner-ups, is the simple fact, that this is only her second BAFTA (they didn’t even give it to her for ‘Sophie’s Choice’), so the fact that she won this now AND the Golden Globe Drama Award for the first time in 30 years or so, DEFINITELY suggests that she is NOW closer to that third Oscar than she had ever been before.
IMPORTANT FACT : Meryl Streep didn’t win the SAG award…in the last 10 years, 3 actresses pulled off Best Actress Oscars without Best Actress SAG awards…all 3 won the BAFTA…just like Streep.
Having said that, considering her biggest competition WON the SAG and her film also has a Best Picture nomination, means that we REALLY won’t have a clue which one wins until Colin Firth opens that envelope in two weeks. But for the record, she is definitely DAMN close…
Come on, Oldman lovers. Oldman is great, but would you really want him to win for THIS performance. He got nominated because they had a chance to. He is so talented, but he is surrounded by ten equally good performances in Tinker. His performance is not worthy ANY Best of the Year Award, please be objective about this.
AND ANOTHER FACT PHANTOM MERYL STREEP WON HER OSCAR FOR SOPHIE’S CHOICE WITHOUT THE SAG SO DEFINITELY YOU CAN CONCLUDE THAT STREEP IS THE SLIGHT FRONTRUNNER HERE.
Nice analysis Phantom. Streep’s BAFTA win makes her category that little bit more tense than it already is. If the producers of the show are wise, they will schedule Best Leading Actress pretty near the end – keep ratings high. That said, Leading Actor is also still a duel between two very charming and charismatic blokes, although Clooney’s glow is looking a little less luminous with all of Dujardin’s wins. I am not ruling him out yet, nor Viola Davis. Spencer and Plummer do seem pretty airtight, and i personally will be chuffed at that. I don’t think it will happen, but i am still holding a thought that Hugo will win Directing, and The Artist the Best Picture, but there is no logical or empiric basis for that – other than wishful thinking. Scorsese may never make such an impassioned and perfect film again!
““The Lord of The Rings deserved to beat City of God for best editing for example?”
Um…yes. Beat like a drum, actually.“
And The Hurt Locker deserved to beat Avatar, just curiosity?
PHANTOM DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MANY BRITS ARE ACADEMY MEMBERS?
lucy, I am fairly certain that there were no SAG Awards back then, if my memory serves me well they started around 1994.
“I used to prefer the days when the BAFTAs were terribly parochial and awarded British talent.”
So true. They’ve passed on an opportunity to call attention to some fantastic work that is equal to, if not better, than the US-made or US-promoted fare.
Can you imagine the amount of acid that would be thrown here if a similar situation occurred at the Oscars and none of the winning four actors, the director and producer were American. People get skid marks in their shorts for less.
Anyway, congrats to our frontrunners Jean, Meryl, Christopher and Octavia, and to the little movie that could. Amazing – Harvey actually has a lock on the top four awards(film/dir/actor/actress – has this ever happened to him?) AND he’s so close to breaking the decades-old Streep curse AND he’ll be the first one in Oscar history to manage a BP win for a non-anglo film. Major coup! Hope he works this hard for PT Anderson next year.
@ PaulH
The problem is that you, just like the Academy, don`t know how to identify a great editing achievement. The editing is usually confused with the quality of the film. The Descendants for example obviously doesn`t have a better editing achievement than Harry Potter, MI4, Rise of the Planet of the Apes. They tend to get the winner right, but the nominees not really… And City of God is a remarkable work of editing that wash`t seen in any film before it. The Lord of The Rings editing is just classic editing. I see it in dozens of films every year. I`m not saying anything about the quality of LOTR. It`s a masterpiece. But undeserving of this win.
YUP PHANTOM SAG STARTED IN 1995 I THINK
@JP: Your question makes me curious. What makes good editing good? No, what makes editing Oscar-worthy?
daveinprogress
Thanks, what should be also emphasized, even if it might not be that important, that in the last 10 years NO actress has lost the Oscar with the GG (drama) – BAFTA combo…we had one who lost with the GG (drama) – SAG combo (Julie Christie). So I agree, Meryl Streep and Viola Davis are so ridiculously neck-and-neck that I believe we can’t even tell which one is the frontrunner and which one is the damnclose runner-up…it will be a mystery to me until Colin Firth opens that damn envelope ! Good news ? FINALLY some excitement for Oscar-watchers!
lucy
Well, I’m guessing a lot.
“as it turned out several times in recent years, the British-vote COUNTS when it comes to the Oscars, especially when it comes to Best Actress contenders who lost the Lead Actress SAG (Marion Cotillard, Kate Winslet, Nicole Kidman)”
Well, the Winslet comparison is slightly deceptive because she was SAG nominated in lead that year for Revolutionary Road, not The Reader. She won SAG in supporting for The Reader. Since once Winslet was elevated to lead with BAFTA and Oscar and defeated Meryl both times, I strongly suspect Winslet would have defeated Meryl for the lead actress at SAG that year too if she had been nominated in that category for The Reader.
WHEN MERYL STREEP LOSES THE OSCAR IN 2008 AND IN 2009, SHE IS SECOND TO WINSLET WHO WON BAFTA, AND EVEN THOUGH MULLIGAN WON IN 2009 BULLOCK IS INELIGIBLE, PLUS MULLIGAN I THINK THAT YEAR IS 3RD PLACE, THIS YEAR IS DIFFERENT, FOR STREEP, SHE HAS THE BRITISH VOTING BLOCK OF THE ACADEMY BEHIND HER, SHE COULD POSSIBLY END UP WINNING HER 3RD OSCAR IN SUCH A VERY CLOSE RACE!!!!
im very fine with jean dujardin winning the oscar, she is a good actor, likeable and he was way better than pitt and clooney, i like clooney but i think he is overrated, and DEFINETELY dont see him as a 2 times oscar winner… lMAOF, there is no way , when people like johnny or dicaprio(i know he is trying to much to win an oscar) and he is not at the same level of PENN OR DANIEL DAW LEWIS, so please lets award the best actor this year..
about old lady streep, if this oscar is going to make old lady fans realize about she is not giving the best performance every year im all for it, i just hope she has to wait another 25 years to win a forth…
u are overestimating old lady streep, yes she is the best actress alive in the history BUT, she wasnt very far of the winning of charlize theron or even dianet keaton who i believe was the second, she was very far of a spectacular katherine zeta jones in chicago, and i keep going, but i do think she shouldnt win for a shitty film like this , even the blind side was a better film…
and dont get me started with viola she is a good actress but is NO WAY OVERDUE , her peformance was good and thats all, and i dont even think michelle williams is overdue, sadly she will win a la kate winslet with her 5th or 6th nomination for a not great role like winslet did
@lucy Why are you screaming?
The Artist lost almost 200 screens this weekend vs. last and will likely never see 4 figures again (at its peak it was in 1005 theaters per boxofficemojo). It won’t be as much of a financial bomb as The Hurt Locker, but it will struggle to get past The Last Emperor’s final domestic take as the 2nd least-seen BP winner adjusted for inflation, ever.
JOHN
I AM NOT SCREAMING LOL, THE EXCLAMATION POINT IS NOT SCREAMING AT ALL HEEHHE PEACE.
Oh, and about the Globe + BAFTA = Oscar victory theory, it’s worth noting that there are examples from the past ten years in other acting categories where someone has won both Globe and BAFTA and did not win the Oscar. Mickey Rourke comes immediately to mind. Mickey: Globe + BAFTA. Sean Penn: BFCA + SAG. Oscar: Penn.
So what I’m trying to figure out is this: is Meryl Marion Cotillard or Mickey Rourke?
I think Weinstein will take it again next year with Wettest County! And The Hobbit will get the nod but no win and The Dark Knight Rises will be my favorite film and will get snubbed for a bp nod(just like this year, my fav TGWTDT)!
@Robert A – didn’t Mickey Rourke model his new cheekbones on Meryl’s?
@ m1
For me, there are some kinds of films (Speed, Drive, Rise of the Planet of the Apes, Hugo, Inception) that clearly demand a most difficult work of editing. They have long action scenes, some of them action scenes plus visual effects. In films like The Descendants, Juno, Little Miss Sunshine, I think the editing is pretty much determined by the screenplay, which by the way is finished in the way the director wants. They are not tough editing. What I think is that in those more script driven films, the autonomy of the editor is smaller than in action or epic films. Drive obviously has a better editing achievement then all the nominees for me. But it`s not as liked as The Descendants.
And sometimes there are films that bring new things to the game. That are innovative. City of God is one of them. Danny Boyle actually told in a interview in the time Slumdog Millionare was released that, despite he hates the comparison between both films, there are obviously some similarities.
Well Weinstein has Django Unchained and Wettest County next year. I think he will push Django Unchained and try get Tarantino a directing oscar.
Wettest County? What’s that? Django Unchained – a delirious slave pic? And if anybody’s taking director next year, then goddammit, Christopher Nolan’s name better be in that envelope.
It’s official, Weinstein has taken over awards season forever. The fact that The Artist managed to win Best Original Screenplay breaks my heart. The film itself is okay with the direction and actors but the screenplay is the worst part about the film. It totally rips off every plot point from Singin’ in the Rain, only instead its a silent film version of that movie. Hugo is original and inventive, The Artist is nothing but a copycat off of better classics. I hope this film never gets remembered and gets buried with Shakespeare in Love and The English Patient. Harvey Weinstein can go rot in hell.
It won’t be as much of a financial bomb as The Hurt Locker, but it will struggle to get past The Last Emperor’s final domestic take as the 2nd least-seen BP winner adjusted for inflation, ever.
Thanks god you’re not actually in charge of producing films. You don’t seem to be that good with numbers, or at least certainly not with profits and margins. The Artist worldwide BO is currently at 52 million, you can add at least 25 more million until the end of its run in cinema (the film was re-released in the UK and France), and was made for 15. That’s 5 times its original budget. Also consider ancillary revenues (dvds, vod, tv rights etc). With all that, Langmann, Weinstein and co are pocketing just with this film more money than you will ever see in your entire life. Not so bad for a “financial bomb”.
Last years omission of Inception, one of the greatest and toughest editing achievements I`ve ever seen, in the final 5 of the Oscars really tells a lot about this category.
Wettest County
Tom Hardy
Jessica Chastain
Guy Pearce
Gary Oldman
Depression-era bootlegger gangsters.
Wow, Depression era bootlegger gangsters…guaranteed popular bomb of Heaven’s Gate proportion.
Steven Spielberg is gonna enjoy that all of the attention will be in Harvey`s 4 films (in order of awards potential, The Master, Django Unchained, The Silver Linings Playbook and Wettest Country)… then he will come with his Lincoln. If they like Lincoln, it`s over. It may be a sweep of epic proportions.
Jeremie, I’m only focused on domestic $; not even breaking $25m 3 months almost into its run? Why didn’t Harvey unleash this universally loved movie into 2500, 3000 or 3500 screens? Because he got pushback from theater owners who didn’t want to run it? Or because the SOB knew this was a niche film from the get-go?
gee, PaulH. Sure glad you weren’t president of Paramount in the ’70s
I hope Spielberg DOMINATES next year with Lincoln just so Weinstein won’t get what he wants with his overrated produced flicks (aside from Kevin Smith and Tarantino, Jackson… not as much).
Thank you Harvey Weinstein for taking one of the best years for movies EVER and turning it into the worst awards season EVER. I can’t wait until the Oscars are over so that way it’ll most possibly be better next year.
I think next year’s golden globes will go to Lincoln and Les Miserables and then I don’t knowwhat will happen at oscars
“@Robert A – didn’t Mickey Rourke model his new cheekbones on Meryl’s?”
Mickey Rourke has new cheekbones? Again?
As for Spielberg and Mr. Lincoln, Christopher Nolan and Mr. Dark Knight (and Mr. Bane, too) say hi.
I hope Tom Hooper’s Les Miserables BOMBS at the box office because that classic does not deserve to be a Broadway musical on-screen… also I just hate Tom Hooper for stealing Fincher’s Oscar.
I really want to see Day-Lewis expecting a Golden Globe as when he won for TWBB there was the writer’s strike
@tclaw should’ve been nominated for Outstanding British Film but you know
TSN is so overrated and TKS is better, but I wish Aronofsky had won.
Harvey has $8- or $10mil invested in The Artist.
If he earns only $2mil in profit then he will have earned….$2mil in profit. If he earns $40mil he will have earned …$40mil…
See how that math works out?
If he earns a nickel then he’s got 5 cents + 7 new Oscars for his new friends.
Harvey Weinstein makes ends meet. Don’t worry, he won’t have to sell a kidney.
In addition to Wettest Country, Harvey will also have in his stable:
PT Anderson’s The Master
“A 1950s-set drama centered on the relationship between a charismatic intellectual known as “the Master” whose faith-based organization begins to catch on in America, and a young drifter who becomes his right-hand man.”(IMDb)
-Joaquin Phoenix, Amy Adams, PS Hoffman, Laura Dern, Rami Malek
Tarantino’s Django Unchained
” With the help of his mentor, a slave-turned-bounty hunter sets out to rescue his wife from a brutal Mississippi plantation owner.”(IMDb)
- Leo, JG-Levitt, SL Jackson, SB Cohen, Chrisoph Waltz, Kerry Washington, et al – the cast list goes on…
Django sounds like the easier sell, esp. in these polarized times, plus it’s got the right shiny buttons for to push (epic cast, correct political angles and expected Tarantino wackiness).
The Master will either piss people off or go way over their heads, I’m sure.
I remember reading something about The Master being pushed back to a 2013 release.
In any Oscar category when the race is close, the British who make up a sizable minority in the Oscar academy can tip the balance, provided the BAFTA winner won with overwhelming support. If the victory was a close one, the strength of the bloc dilutes. This we’ll never know.
Implications on the Oscar race:
The winners today have a strong chance to win the Oscar. Yet, no precursor is a sure thing, because votes are secret–the strength of victory unknown. Did Meryl win by a whisker over Michelle Williams? Dujardin won by a hair’s breath over Oldman?
But winning here always helps any frontrunner status.
At this late stage, anyone who wanted to be a serious contender, to change a 2-legged race to a 3-legged one, needed to win here.
I said before, a week is a long time in politics. Given that this is the last precursor, now is the time to see the campaign, how they ramp it up. The race goes on. Expect a flurry of ads.
@steve50
I think he also will have David O. Russell`s The Silver Linings Playbook.
And one obvious conclusion (and i include myself in it): the critics opinion matters if our favorites are the ones they liked. I`ve read so many times here that critics should vote at the Oscars. The Artist have won a couple of critics awards (including the NBR, has 89 at Metacritic, 97 at Rotten Tomatoes). It`s the Critics fave of the year. Sorry Tree of Life. Sorry Drive and all the others.
And people also forget that The King`s Speech (I definitely preferred The Social Network and maybe 5 or 6 of last year`s nominees to TKS) had outstanding reviews. The critics may have liked TSN more. But they loved TKS. And people talk about The King`s Speech as if it was a creation and imposition of Harvey (who you may like or not, but he`s a genius). The critics played a great role in putting this film in the race last year.
@John – you may be right – I see both 2012 and 2013 listed as possible release dates. I’m really anxious to see what Anderson does with this. Score is rumored to be done by Radiohead’s Jonny Greenwood and the link has some pics of costumes (50s).
http://cinema.theiapolis.com/movie-2TFU/the-master/news/first-look-period-costumes-photos-for-p-t-1001066.html
@JP – True – he’s got Russel’s next, too. No shortage of truly major talent at his fingertips. Who in their right mind wouldn’t want Harvey to handle their film? Life is tough enough for filmmakers and his support is a gift.
This year’s Best Actor race reminds me of the Penn/Rourke battle. Rourke won the Globe and the BAFTA. Penn won the SAG, BFCA and went on to win the Oscar.
Clooney won the Globe and the BFCA, Dujardin won the SAG, Globe and BAFTA. I think I give the edge to Dujardin.
However, I thought Brad Pitt gave the best performance last year. In another year, he might have been the frontrunner. Too bad he won’t get recognized this year.
The Artist is the 4th film to win 6+/7 of Bafta Film/Director, NY Film/Director, DGA, and Globe Film/Director, after Schindler, Brokeback (7/7), and Graduate. Oddly, the latter two lost the Oscar for Best Picture.
I think the winners were wonderful choices. Especially Streep and Dujardin. Easily the best in show for their respected categories. Also happy for The Artist win as Best Pix. Surely hoping Oscar has a brain this year and we get repeat winners.
-When Meryl won for “Sophie’s Choice”, the SAG Awards didn’t exist, duhh!!!!
-BAFTA, the B stands for British. Meryl played a British Prime Minister. Come on, it was a shoo-in. I love Meryl, but this win was so predictable, and IMO, doesn’t really mean anything. I’m happy for her though.
GO VIOLA!!!!!!!
Predictable or not, it swings momentum back to Meryl and thank the baby Jesus for that. She has a good shot at taking the Oscar as well, I heard 1/6th of Academy voters is BAFTA related so that’s pretty good. And let’s all stop pretending that she only won this because she played Maggie Thatcher. She gave the best female lead performance. Loved her classy “screw you” to the negative press TIL is getting by saying what the film attempted to do.
So pulling up stats and records: you can find a way to show how both Meryl and Viola have a great shot for the Oscar and making it now that Dujardin got Actor, the most competitive race.
Good stuff.
Awesome for Tyrannosaur, great for Tinker Tailor getting two important awards, sucks that Fassbender didn’t get his due, and I’m happy The Artist got all those awards though i would say Cinematography should have went to Hugo (Tree of Life wasn’t nominated shockingly, that’s the real winner)
At this point, Dujardin, Plummer, and Spencer are locks. However Davis and Streep are neck and neck. It is pretty much a coin toss between them. The Artist will take Picture and Director, but I think Midnight in Paris will win Screenplay.
D IT’S NOT PREDICTABLE THAT STREEP WINS BAFTA, I CAN SEE STREEP TAKING THE OSCAR ALA COTILLARD
I wouldn’t say Dujardin is completely locked for The Artist, American voters could still be swayed toward Clooney. Pitt though, I doubt he has a chance now.
“I wouldn’t say Dujardin is completely locked for The Artist”
Maybe not locked, but his stock is going up while the others drop. Depends on how many “soft” Clooney voters have already done their ballots. If they wait until the last minute, they will have been exposed to a toxic level of Gallic charm at other awards presentations, talk shows, and exposure like SNL – hell, they might have even seen The Artist and see how he carries the thing, light as it is. I’d say he’s damn near locked. (Sorry to sound like John King on election nite)
I think most races are easy enough to call except Best Actress. Streep and Davis are still too close to call. Streep will gain lots of goodwill for BAFTA win, no doubt.
plus, Berlin is this week too.
BAFTA and Oscars
Picture: The Artist
Director: Hazanavicius
Actor: Dujardin
Actress: Streep
S. Actor: Plummer
S. Actress: Spencer
Animated Feature: Rango
Score: The Artist
The writing and tech categories are still quite hazy.
Very happy with Tinker Tailor’s wins.
Quite sad Hugo only took 2 awards, though I expected just the art direction prize coz the film was not even nominated for best picture.
I predicted The Skin I Live In to upset A Separation at the Globes, didn’t happen there but it did so here at the BAFTAs. If anti-Iranian sentiment prevails at the Oscars, either In Darkness or Footnote could snatch best foreign language film.
How could Tom Hiddleston (Franchot Tone reincarnated), who starred in Midnight in Paris, War Horse, and Thor, lose the rising star award?
I think Pitt took the biggest hit today; Clooney still has a sizable bloc of American voters in his corner. The only way he wins now is if the Oscar voters suddenly have an attack of nationalism, as in we need to keep best actor out of the French guy’s hands. But we all know that won’t happen. Screw Berlin or the Cesars; the lead actor race is like an egg.
Over, easy.
Most happy about Streep winning Best Actress!
“I think he also will have David O. Russell`s The Silver Linings Playbook.”
I’ll take Nolan over Russell any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
“And one obvious conclusion (and i include myself in it): the critics opinion matters if our favorites are the ones they liked. I`ve read so many times here that critics should vote at the Oscars. The Artist have won a couple of critics awards (including the NBR, has 89 at Metacritic, 97 at Rotten Tomatoes). It`s the Critics fave of the year. Sorry Tree of Life. Sorry Drive and all the others.”
So the presumptive BP will, for the second time in three years be a film that ONLY critics loved, and not the moviegoers.
“And people talk about The King`s Speech as if it was a creation and imposition of Harvey (who you may like or not, but he`s a genius). The critics played a great role in putting this film in the race last year.”
Stupid-ass critics. And please stop calling that dickhead a genius, OK? Or do I need to bring up Shakespeare in Love over Saving Private Ryan?
Actually, not so sure about a LINCOLN sweep next year. I have a friend who is a script supervisor on the film and she said that while it’s very good, it’s also a very slow-paced political drama. She said she would be surprised if it was a serious Best Pic contender, as it’s more meditative character study (Munich, Amistad) rather than sweeping epic (Saving Private Ryan/Schindler). She did state, however, that Daniel Day Lewis and Sally Field are LOCKS for acting Oscars
Here’s an interesting stat. I only checked over the past 20 years, but in the Top 6 categories (BP, director, the four acting categories), BAFTA’s choices have NEVER matched up with Oscar 6/6. Not once.
What does this mean? Well, nothing. But it will be interesting to see if this is the year BAFTA goes 6/6 with Oscar in the top categories, or if one or more of their top winners is once again doomed from taking the big enchilada.
happy happy happy for the artist sweep, jean dujardin oh mon dieu this oscar is looking more like him everyday that passes
happy for meryl too , hope she wins it!
2 little weeks and one last long stretch of campaigning to do, from what i’ve seen online i think jean has this in the bag, he’s coming off as genuinely psyched to be in the race, to be in hollywood and be appreciative of the love been showered his way for his performance and the film and not just going through the routine as a slick veteran like clooney is!
happy oscar hunting l’artiste!
my fav actor i hope to see win an oscar someday is johnny depp, i hope someday i’ll be vindicated
Started to tear up at Peter Straughan’s acceptance of Best Adapted screenplay for TTSS, so dignified and held it together for what must have been an incredibly emotional moment! RIP Bridget O’Connor!
Somewhere along the lines “PaulH” has gone off the deep end…. that or its stopped taking its thorazine…..
The Artist will win Oscars for
Picture
Director
Actor
Score
Costumes
Midnight in Paris will win Original
Moneyball will win Adapted
Davis and Octavia will win and so will Plummer
Hugo will win awards for Art Direction, Sound Mixing, Sound Editing, Editing, and Cinemetography
“Thank you Harvey Weinstein for taking one of the best years for movies EVER and turning it into the worst awards season EVER. I can’t wait until the Oscars are over so that way it’ll most possibly be better next year.”
I 100% sure I read some what this kind of comment last year… You one of the people who plan to write this every year?
“I hope Tom Hooper’s Les Miserables BOMBS at the box office because that classic does not deserve to be a Broadway musical on-screen… also I just hate Tom Hooper for stealing Fincher’s Oscar.”
Another “can’t-get-over-the-past-year” fanboy… I wish I could give you a medicine for that… But I suggest you move on, I’m quite sure Fincher has move on right after, so you should…
“Many feel that Davis is overdue from “Doubt”, where she easily came in a strong second to Cruz (at least it appeared) and she could be riding this coattail to victory (standing o @the SAGS). ”
I can’t see an “overdue” factor from Davis… She didn’t have a single performance that rivals the one she did in DOUBT… Until her performance in THE HELP…
So it looks that Streep has the real chance to win her third Oscar. I’m not suprised: she’s great in “The Iron Lady” and she has no competition this year.
The ‘Davis is overdue’ meme is laughable.
@wolf
Yes, I’m so happy I was wrong, believe me!
I was so afraid Meryl would loose this…. I know this time it was her best shot in DECADES, but still….
No, don’t get me wrong, I would NOT have mind seeing Viola winning, but this is just a very important win for Meryl, even more than Oscar imo.
I still think Viola will take Oscar and she has my personal bless.
@Lucy: It was predictable to me, someone who is rooting for Viola, but loves Meryl, that’s why “I” stated it. It may not have been predictable to you……
This is how it will go down at the Oscars, sorry Viola Davis, sorry Scorsese. The Artist, Hazanavicius, Streep, Dujardin.
It’s ridiculous that there is no Brit actor winner in any acting categories. Gary Oldman deserved to win for his brilliant performance but everyone seems to jump on the bandwagon. I wonder how much love a French award ceremony would show for a British film…
I have to say and i only going to be crude in saying this as the only way to highlight my sheer frustration with the oscars as amplified by most of you through your sheer lack of enthusiasm for ‘the artist’ or should i say the ‘bullshit artist’ cos frankly it is a load of absolute crap that out from nowehere and considering its lack of recognition in awards season for screenplay, that the overrated ‘Artist’ actually came out from nowhere to win it?
That has shocked the media in Australia as they go on the attack about credibility of awards season going down the drain in the public eye.
Our media did not hold back questioning and finger pointing, rightfully accusing the BAFTAS for being ‘out of step with reality’
I hate to say it but they absolutely right.
I don’t deny a silent film means it has a less of a chance to win screenplay sure it deserves as much CONSIDERATION as the other contenders.
But to be quite frank i am FED up and i totally had it up the ass- with awards season- i can only suspect that indeed hollywood’s awards season has enslaved yet again the BAFTAS sense of independence.
Suffice to say Tin Tin not winning best animated film is a damn disgrace!
Yet most disturbing of all is how HUGO at the very least did not win best screenplay and instead the ‘artist’ did.
Like a lot of you you are frustrated for the same reason as i am you DON’T get to see the bloody film and why?
Bcause our views don’t matter as they once did- in this it is actually undemocratic and a outright betrayal of the once revered true function of oscars it feels like ‘a long time ago in a galaxy far far away…’ It is not without irony i select this quote to parody the joke that awards season has descended into.
So let’s see HUGO one a measley amount and yet more people enthused about it than the ‘artists’ and you know why? distributors gave them the opportunity to the CHANCE to have some input in this public arts insitution debate.
Yet regardless whether its excuse or not oscar purposefully prefers excessively so the small budget ‘i don’t have money to expand to at least a modest amount of screens syndrome’ and in reality if ANY distributor is passionate about getting public input don’t you think they find the way to loan money or to get financial assistance?
Im sorry the crying poor debate means we as the public cry poor.
I not saying the ‘artist’ should have opened on as many screens as HUGO at a cerain point its undeerstandable they make less money.
Yet whether its poor planning or what not with the slew of low budget and excessively low gross film it a lame excuse to touh oscar’s heart.
Its a joke and the joke is on oscar.
It quite remarkable not for the first time in recent oscar seasons but has everyone realised they talk about other films for one simple reason over the artist or other lesser known films that hardly opened n a reasonable amount of screens?
And you know why that is? cos we did not get the CHANCE to see and properly judge for ourselves on mass as to how good the artist is.
I wanted to see ‘tyhe artist’ but i afraid just like last year this emerging trend of ‘underselling’ movies leading to undervaluing the product by restricting the amount of screens to but a thimble full amount means i CANT see it myself.
Yes there is not doubt Hollywood must fill a bit of a financial void but if your effective with how you promote your product as well as making the product itself you can maximise its appeal if you WANT to.
Did the ‘artist’ producers care to maximise its appeal even with limited resources? it not impossible- when you put your mind to it right?
As in any business you put your head down and your ass up you work hard if your a small business and you if you care about your service your product you expand its services right?
So last year did the ‘Hurt Locker’ care about its product t push it a bit more in the public eye than what it actually was?
And as hard to believe as it is is this year going to set a ludicrously insane all time low as new lowest grossing movie to win an oscar?
Hollywood need to put together a financial package to help independent studios then and ONLy THEN do low budget lesser public aware respected films will then be entitled to compete for oscar glory- when a reasonable amount of the public have had a chance to have their say.
Oscars will only get someone so far- but frankly money does talk to a point no matter how creative or ambitious you are whehter your architect, doctor, film producer.
OScar is worth a lot in sentiment and reputation but the problem is the support needed to expand to screens relative to its extra financial boost should happen BEFORE THE STATUE IS given to that particular film.
The split i predict is almost certain to ensure if oscar goes overboard about ‘the artist’- in the meantime remeber everyone films are made for us as well as ‘them’ without our input in such a film insitution’s debate it has no value or validity at all to us and hence why we care less for oscar than ever before.
That has shocked the media in Australia as they go on the attack about credibility of awards season going down the drain in the public eye. Our media did not hold back questioning and finger pointing, rightfully accusing the BAFTAS for being ‘out of step with reality’
REICHDOME,
Any links? Sounds like good reading with morning coffee to start the week.
Any of us who more than one-liner wisecracks on blogs can easily appreciate the care it requires to craft and polish a phrase.
Let’s look back at the Original Screenplay contenders on the BAFTA long list.
Original Screenplay
50/50
Anonymous
The Artist
Beginners
Bridesmaids
The Guard
The Iron Lady
J. Edgar
Midnight in Paris
Senna
Shame
Super 8
Tyrannosaur
Young Adult
Imagine you’re enrolled in Screenplay 101, but you’ve slacked off all semester. Now your Final Screenplay is due tomorrow, but you haven’t written a word yet. Oh Shit!
Which of the above screenplays could you knock out in 4 or 5 hours? Chug a shot of 5-Hour Energy drink and pound that sucker out. Which of us couldn’t pull an all-nighter and cobble together a pastiche of cliches like The Artist?
Ridiculous. This year’s awards have turned into a farce of bite-size proportions.
REICHDOME,
What other movies besides The Artist do you wish you had been able to see?
(just curious. — this year I had trouble getting my hands on all the movies I needed to see. Finally got them all covered, but some as recently as last week.)
I saw THE IRON LADY yesterday, and I’ll just say that if Meryl Streep wins the Oscar, it will be for the worst movie containing an Oscar-winning performance since Forest Whitaker won for THE LAST KING OF SCOTLAND, only it’s even worse. All I can figure is that Phyllida Lloyd made the movie as a showcase for Streep; it can’t be because she had something to say about Margaret Thatcher, or British history or politics, or anything, because she doesn’t. At least Whitaker had a character arc in LAST KING. That film’s problem was akin to that of MY WEEK WITH MARILYN or ME AND ORSON WELLES, the story of a historical icon with a young non-entity at its center. But in THE IRON LADY the arc Streep has to play, if one can call it that, is about a disoriented old lady who just happens to have been Prime Minister of Great Britain, it’s remarkable that she’s as good as she is.
Part of being a star for whom projects are conceived is discerning when a script is good enough to be produced and when it isn’t. I’m not sure what the fact that Streep went full speed ahead with such an incoherent script says about her as an artist; whatever her concerns are, they aren’t with making good films. THE IRON LADY reminds me of what Roger Ebert on his TV show in Jan. 1993 said about CHAPLIN, that Robert Downey Jr. was ready to be Charlie Chaplin in any movie anybody had made. But again, Richard Attenborough’s Chaplin character at least made sense; the film just couldn’t possibly tell Chaplin’s monumental story in 135 minutes. Downey did not have the clout to tell an Oscar-winning director how to make movies, although it’s hard to imagine that Attenborough could have made the film without him.
If Streep wins, it will be for a movie no one will ever, ever watch after this year. They said no to Peter O’Toole for VENUS (Remember that?), a last ditch attempt to win an Oscar for that venerable also-ran. They’ll vote for Viola Davis over Streep for this vanity vehicle as well.
Yo Arch, when I want your opinion, I’ll give it to you (hat tip to Viggo Mortensen in GI Jane).
Now begone or I shall taunt you a second time!
Meryl Streep deserves wins the Oscar for The Iron Lady, her performance is spectacular and magnificent, she gave the best performance of all nominated and male and female actor.
But of course, many people likes the cry, tears, and all about that as the help, one of the worst film nominated to this Oscar. In fact the help doesn’t deserve be there.
Dennis Bee writes: At least Whitaker had a character arc in LAST KING. That film’s problem was akin to that of MY WEEK WITH MARILYN or ME AND ORSON WELLES, the story of a historical icon with a young non-entity at its center. But in THE IRON LADY the arc Streep has to play, if one can call it that, is about a disoriented old lady who just happens to have been Prime Minister of Great Britain, it’s remarkable that she’s as good as she is.
****
At least My Week with Marilyn and Me and Orson Welles are enjoyable films.
THE ARTIST deserved every award it won at the BAFTAS. I still think it’s Viola’s to lose. Streep won because she played a British icon.
Also the OSCAR ballots have already been on the voters kitchen tables since Feb 2–and probably 60% of them have already been mailed back.
Carter, Rush, and Fincher won BAFTAS and lost the OSCAR.
I was most estatic about the wins for Jean and the screenplay win over the “Boy have I seen that before” Midnight in Paris.
GO The Artist.
To PaulH: A suggestion: You need to take a film course and broaden your horizons.
@wolf
WE don’t care
Hey Ryan,
Glad my comments got your attention;)
Unfortunately, however, I was on my way out the door- to get to the other end of the state (thought if i had my way and money i go to the academy personally and help them understand sometimes unfotunately a bit more than not the error of their ways.
I want to clarify my position though i think it should be clear already- I NOT against Independent films, I am against the lopsided nature of the awards season, the lack of corellation between public input and what the awards think, the shrinking as an event in itself that oscar deserves for it being the stand out- at least once upon a time single global unifying film movement that once understood the invaluable role of public input. But dare i say it no longer does?
I can’t begrudge them completely in my mind seeing the lotr trilogy win what i believeit was well overdue for its grand achievement offset the m8issteps they have done.
However, I afraid i don’t have any links thought you could try to browse you tube however my point is that the ‘analysis’ of the awards season on the show was brief but the fact it was brief and negative esp the fact it was really brief and much shorter time it took in the segment in contrast tyo the time spent even back 5 years ago with oscars.
The pattern i sensing is Australian media’s main interest is isolated to australian contributors in acting and technical but when no aussies little and less interest and the fact it is getting all the more briefer and less and less coverage of it in entertainment news- overall each year at awards seeason times highlights the extent that some parts of the world are falling out of love with oscar that is the point.
Does the Academy see themselves as a coexisting public AND arts insitution? Sure there a spot for elitists wih their powerful memberships i mean i sure curators of the guggenheim museum have an elite membership and board squad it keeps pple working together organized , structure right?
Or does the academy as is distturbingly and increasingly seem to be aiming to preference movie s and who wins based on their elitist choice?
If a boardroom makes decisions lets say using my profession as an example to approve a hundred storey tower- will they agree to get public input or just ram a potential eyesore down pple’s throats?
It the same principle with oscar isn’t it? they have a ‘board of members’ but they are cutting the middle pple out of the process who are movies made for? us AND the advancement of the arts.
How is the Artist ‘advancing’ the arts? Anyone can see its a retrogade step isn’t it? We seen it before well bnot for a very long time, but even then, ot ignore the positive virtues of today’s technology and the way Scorceses championed that with a very traditional first rate story- really the first 3d film to not be regarded as just a 3d exravaganza it had depth it had layers and yes it got input by the public cos the producers pushed the product .
I really like to see a bit more passion and regard by the producers fo the artist with at least a slightly larger film expansion nothing of the calibre of Hugo i get that and i liike to see Hollywood as a whole providing more financial support avenues and less ‘it takes an oscar to make money for a producers future’ *bullshit’ mentality.
Because that is not the function of any insitution that exists in the public (and private realm) insitutions are shaped and reflected by the very pple that inform them through social discourse- us.
They are not a means to an end unto themselves for themselves.
That funny not meaning to get into a bit of poklitics but that sounds like the root cause of our ever degenerating deeply unpopular government it not cos our pm welll she breaks promises its cos- she excludes the public good and our role from the process such individuals who have a higher responsibility and duty and obligation to serve public consideration and to allow our input let alone organisations like the oscars, well is it any wonder why disenchantment grows with oscar and individuals in life who make decisions unto their own means?
It means they become selfish? elitist? out of touch? Heh our pm is unquestionabl going down that path- but despite my grave disenchantment on balance with oscatr, nothing angers me more than the state of politics esp on tjhe PM’S part in this coountry of mine.
OScar this is little comfort to me and so it should be to you.
Sorry again Ryan, mate- if our australian media allowed more exposure on te arts esp awards season maybe the following would be there to be on the ibnternet as we know only the most hyped about things appear on the bnet i really wish it would come to that sadly for us more so than for oscar it has not.
If i do come across anything on the web i let you know for now i suggest google ‘australian media coverage of oscars’
I not saying they entirely negative as much as i highlighting the growing disinterest on the part of our media in contrast to years ago.
I want to stop repeating myself but i do so unashamedly until oscar understand they are supposed to be as they once were an arts instituion dare i say it ‘founded by the people to represent the people’ politics and internal self interst serve oscar but they wont survive forever at this rate- yet an arts insitution can Guggenheim has by rights Disney has long after the founders death- that in itself the most asotnishing post war time story the incredible success of disney and how it grew to collaborate with pixar- one simple reason films shaped by public interest i dont like them all yet i appreciate disney as guggenheim shape their artistic nous through the communal, public and dare i say democratic prism.
Are we in a democracy oscar?
7 bafta’s is alarming given how independent until recent times baftas have been from oscar
2 or is that 2 and a half for HUGO give me a darn break anyway Ryan i curious your thoughts on ym response to your response do let me know im interested to hear your important views on this growing and alarming issue for oscars remember eeryone, there was a time when everyone raved about oscar in the months leading up to it so now why do our mass media at least in my couintry only give barely a passing mention of this once revered international event for the film industry when they never used to do this???