Can The Artist Break the 25 Year Indie Spirit Curse?
We’ve always said the Spirit Awards are the kiss of death but tonight, the Spirits honored The Artist, believe it or not, joining the BAFTA, the Cesar, the DGA, the PGA, etc. Do we really have to go over it again? Yes, it will probably break the curse – but the question is how many Oscars will The Artist win?
Right now I am predicting it to win 7:
Picture
Director
Actor
Cinematography
Costumes
Score
Editing
But it could also win:
Original Screenplay (setting a record for a single writer/director winning screenplay whose film also won Best Picture)
Art Direction
Let’s look at some possibilities after the cut.
Here are the films that have won 7 Oscars:
Dances with Wolves 7/12 — WON SCREENPLAY
Schindler’s List 7/12– WON SCREENPLAY
Out of Africa 7/11– WON SCREENPLAY
Going My Way 7/10– WON SCREENPLAY
Lawrence of Arabia 7/10 — DID NOT WIN SCREENPLAY
Patton 7/10 — WON SCREENPLAY
The Sting 7/10 – WON SCREENPLAY
The Best Years of Our Lives 7/10– WON SCREENPLAY
the Bridge on the River Kwai 7/8 – WON SCREENPLAY
If The Artist won 6 it would join:
All About Eve 6/14– WON SCREENPLAY
Forrest Gump 6/13 – WON SCREENPLAY
Mrs. Miniver 6/12– WON SCREENPLAY
The Godfather 6/11– WON SCREENPLAY
The Hurt Locker 6/9– WON SCREENPLAY
An American in Paris 6/8– WON SCREENPLAY
A Man for All Seasons 6/8 – WON SCREENPLAY
So what happens if we go higher?
Ben-Hur 11/12 — DID NOT WIN SCREENPLAY
Return of the King 11/11 — WON SCREENPLAY
Films that won 10 Oscars
West Side Story-10/11 – DID NOT WIN SCREENPLAY
Films that won 9 Oscars
The English Patient 9/12 — DID NOT WIN SCREENPLAY
GIGI 9/9 – WON SCREENPLAY
The Las Emperor 9/9 – WON SCREENPLAY
Films that won 8 Oscars
Gone with the Wind 8/13 – WON SCREENPLAY
From Here to Eternity-8/13 – WON SCREENPLAY
On the Waterfront 8/12 - WON SCREENPLAY
My Fair Lady 8/12 – DID NOT WIN SCREENPLAY
Gandhi 8/11 – WON SCREENPLAY
Amadeus 8/11 – WON SCREENPLAY
Slumdog Millionaire – 8/10 – WON SCREENPLAY
It could be argued that The Artist is along the lines of My Fair Lady or West Side Story but a film as strong as The Artist seems like it might be headed for an original screenplay win also. Just saying!
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Razzie nominations are out!
Adam Sandler broke an unbelievable record and got 11 nominations.
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Adam Sandler, Academy Member?* Or some other hack Adam Sandler?
I really hope The Artist does not win 7 Oscars. It should not be in the same category as Lawrence of Arabia.
I’m turning off the television if it wins Cinematography and Art Direction.
John W, I don’t think The Artist is going to win Best Cinematography and Art Direction. I think it will go to HUGO.
Cinematography now too!
It was so sad that Dujardin won the Indie Spirit award — the one award he didn’t need. And Penelope Ann Miller had to announce that he won a Cesar. Kind of tacky.
It should be pointed out that The English Patient won NINE Oscars and failed to win screenplay; Titanic won eleven and wasn’t even nominated for screenplay; and Chicago is another that won six with no screenwriting prize. So it seems like in recent years there’s been alot less inclination to give all prizes to the best picture favorite.
And let’s not be so quick to toss off the Spirit curse. We were pretty sure it had been broken in 2005 with Brokeback, until that final envelope was opened. Obviously it LOOKS like it’ll happen, but, as they say, don’t count chickens.
“John W, I don’t think The Artist is going to win Best Cinematography and Art Direction. I think it will go to HUGO.”
That would be much better. I’d still prefer ToL to get Cinematography, but another notch in Hugo’s belt wouldn’t make me upset.
I don’t mind The Artist winning the top prizes (I do like the movie, in fact), but I want some of my favs to get SOMETHING tomorrow night.
I think it’s very possible The Artist will lose Cinematography and Original Screenplay. It’s doubt it will win Supporting Actress or Art Direction.
Personally speaking. I have conceded to the fact that The Artist will win Best Picture and Director, as long as Clooney pulls a semi upset, and The Descendants wins Best Adapted Screenplay, I will be very happy.
I think Woody Allen has the screenplay in the bag. It doesn’t matter what BAFTA thinks. BAFTA’s love for The Artist is just so over the top. BAFTA just wanted to influence the Oscars, as always.
thanks for the warning
But Davey, how about Dances with Wolves and Schindler’s List won the same amount of Oscars! I don’t know. We never saw The Artist at the WGA so we don’t know if Midnight would have beaten him or not.
My line in the sand is original screenplay. The Artist has no, repeat, no effing business winning this award. And folks on EW.com make some pretty convincing arguments against Dujardin; he only gave half a performance. A physical presence, yes, but acting in a speaking role is much more difficult and should be rewarded over Dujardin’s borderline mime.
Can The Artist Break the 25 Year Indie Spirit Curse?
YES.
Now how about some Oscar-winning “Maid” roles
Lead:
Loretta Young in The Farmer’s Daughter
Julie Andrews as a super-nanny in Mary Poppins
Patricia Neal in Hud
Supporting:
Gale Sondergaard in Anthony Adverse
Hattie McDaniel in Gone with the Wind
Renée Zellweger in Cold Mountain
John Gielgud in Arthur
Impending:
Viola Davis and Octavia Spencer in The Help
Or Glenn Close in Albert Nobbs for an upset
(or Meryl Streep in The Iron Lady, the help who does the ironing?)
Some notable nominations:
Marie Dresler in Emma
Helen Mirren in Gosford Park
Anthony Hopkins and Emma Thompson in The Remains of the Day
Angela Lansbury in Gaslight
Agnes Moorehead in Hush…Hush, Sweet Charlotte
Lynn Redgrave in Gods and Monsters
Judith Anderson in Rebecca
Snubbed:
Kate Winslet in Quills
Joely Richardson and Jodhi May as incestuous lesbian homicidal housekeepers in Sister My Sister
I’ve said it once, I’ll say it again: fuck The Artist.
No one will care about this movie in ten days.
I can see The Artist winning Best Picture but not getting masses of Oscars. Picture/Director/Score for sure. Dujardin/Editing probably but Clooney and Schoonmaker could still surprise. Costumes/Art Direction maybe one of two but Hugo can well dominate the techs.
Cinematography and Screenplay, no. ToL, War Horse and Hugo all have better odds for the former and I think MiP is a lock for screenplay. When you don’t have to wite a lot of dialogue you can easily lose out to a writer who does.
PaulH,
I hope while you were over at ew.com, you took a look at their sample pages of The Artist’s screenplay, so that you know that such a thing does in fact exist (and doesn’t consist merely of a series of intertitles).
Sasha, I guess if Dances with Wolves could win a screenplay award, The Artist could, LOL. But I’m rooting for Woody. And please no editing for The Artist either. Scorsese has one measly Oscar. Hazanivicius does not need to win two or three in one night when Marty had to wait decades. One is sufficient.
” Hazanivicius does not need to win two or three in one night when Marty had to wait decades. One is sufficient.?
Especially since the French guy’s 15 minutes is finally going to expire between 11:30 and midnight ET tomorrow. He’ll never make this kind of impact again. Ditto Dujardin. Benigini 2.0.
Can somebody edit this jaunty tune into a continuous 3-hour loop for me?
I only have 24 hours to practice my torture resistance training.
PaulH: You clearly don’t know very much about screenwriting or acting. The Artist has as much of a screenplay as any of the other nominees. A screenplay is not “dialogue;” it is everything you see happen on screen. To create a compelling film without dialogue is actually quite an achievement. So I’d be happy to see The Artist win screenplay although I wouldn’t be upset if Midnight in Paris won either.
And to say Jean DuJardin gave “half a performance” is absurd. It is actually harder to act without the support of dialogue and the use of one’s voice. He conveyed everything the character was feeling and recreated the acting style of movies from 90 years ago while making it seem fresh and modern. That’s quite an achievement, and I think it was far and away the best performance of the 5 nominees–certainly the most unique and challenging of the roles. I’d vote for Brad Pitt over Clooney but after seeing The Artist a 2nd time I definitely think Jean DuJardin should win (and he will).
Every time they call out The Artist for a prize, I’m just going to play Howard Shore’s “The White Tree” cue on my iPod to flood myself with blissful memories.
Sasha: in your list above I believe you mean The Godfather Part II? The Godfather only won 3 Oscars (which is really quite astonishing, isn’t it?)
I think all of us would just like to see a spreading of the wealth. It’s rare for a best picture not to win best screenplay but it happens. In the case of original screenplay any of the nominees are deserving. I wish 50/50 had been nominated. It might have won.
@Robert: I thought The Artist’s script was very thin and basic, but I’m glad you found more in it to love than I did. You’re certain to have a good day tomorrow.
The Slumdog year was the first I really followed the Oscars (I was a freshman in college and had a few bucks for the 1st time). I thought it was a good but not great film that for some reason I just didn’t like. Every time it picked up an award when Revolutionary Road and The Wrestler weren’t there I felt like I was wading through shit. At least I ENJOYED The Artist, for all its shortcomings.
Films winning 7 Oscars
Schindler’s List
Lawrence of Arabia
Patton
The Bridge on the River Kwai
The Artist
One of these things is not like the others.
One of these things just doesn’t belong.
Can you tell which thing is not like the others,
By the time I finish my song?
It’s possible for The Artist to only win five: BP, Director, Score, Costumes (or Actor) and Editing.
“…setting a record for a single writer/director winning screenplay whose film also won Best Picture…”
What does this mean? I’ve read it and its context a few times and I’m lost.
I know it’s not a record for a writer/director winning Oscars for writing and directing, because that’s happened a few times.
A few people have won 3 Oscars in one night — James Cameron and James L. Brooks come immediately to mind, but I know there are a handful or so more.
My best guess is that “The Artist” would pass “Going My Way” as the most-Oscared film to be written and directed by the same person. But you wrote “…setting a record for a single writer/director winning screenplay…” so we have to be looking at the script in some way.
Can someone clarify?
Of course The Artist doesn’t compare to Lawrence of Arabia or any of those other great, classic films. But that’s irrelevant– it’s not competing against them. And do any of the other nominees compare to the Lawrence or Bridge on the River Kwai, etc? I would say no. The issue isn’t whether The Artist is one of the all-time great films, it’s whether it’s the best or one of the best of the current nominees. Some may say it isn’t—I might pick Moneyball or maybe War Horse over it—but The Artist is a perfectly fine choice in a rather mediocre year. From all these comments you’d think it was Crash stealing the Oscar from Brokeback. The Artist is a beautifully made, lovely and unique film that everyone I know loves.
I agree with Daveylow–50/50 was a great script and should have been nominated.
This is the first year in a very long time that I disliked (and in some cases almost walked out of) more of the Best Pic nominees than I liked.
Robert — I’m too burnt out to argue its relative value as Best Picture.
My issue is The Artist potentially running the table. Scooping up 6 or 7 Oscars.
Because I think it’s the weakest of the 5 scores. The weakest of the 5 cinematography nominees. It’s the weakest of the costume and art direction nominees. Costumes? A few tuxedos and a fur wrap or two?
So it’s going to be a sickening evening to sit and watch The Artist take every major Oscar for which it’s nominated.
Because it’ll be a travesty if the truly monumental achievements of Hugo, Tree of Life, and other films are robbed by the very average components that went into making The Artist a pleasant confection.
I predict Gary Oldman to win based off of the Kevin Kline theory. Both Kline and Oldman received their Oscar nominations without a Globe nor a SAG award. Also they were only nominated at the BAFTAs.
Perfect set up. He has not been up against these guys yet. He has it to win!
TEAM OLDMAN
I love The Artist and will happy to see it win big tonight (though I too think it has no place winning cinematography or art direction).
Regardless of whether you like the film or not though, it’ll be important to spice up the predictability a bit. A drinking game perhaps? You could have a competition for how many times Harvey is mentioned?
I’ve put bets on one of the speeches being a “thank you” only, and that lead or supporting actress winner will cry during their speech.
What will you be doing to spice things up a bit?
To Penelope: Am I wrong or did Dujardin NOT win the Cesar?
Just sayin’
a film winning at spirit and oscars has happened Platoon won both
To Brett: I think my heart would stop with excitement if Oldman was to pull that sort of upset! I admire your optimism! It would make up for some unforgivable snubs of Tinker, Tailor though!
“Films winning 7 Oscars
Schindler’s List
Lawrence of Arabia
Patton
The Bridge on the River Kwai
The Artist
One of these things is not like the others.
One of these things just doesn’t belong.
Can you tell which thing is not like the others,
By the time I finish my song?”
Come on, Ryan, that´s too easy: “Patton”, of course!
I hope to God that The Artist does NOT win Best Original Screenplay. It couldn’t be anymore of a copycat. Just look at the plot for Singin’ in the Rain and The Artist and tell me there isn’t something very similar. Woody Allen deserves it 1000000 times more then Michel Hazadontgiveaf*ck.
@Ryan Adams: Am I mistaken or “The Artist” won the most awards given by the American critics this year? They might have chosen “The Tree of Life” or “Hugo” but they chose “The Artist”. And they were right! “Hugo” and “The Tree of Life” are the most overrated American movies of the year – pure and simple (you might add to them “The Descendants” if you like).
I predict that “The Artist” will win 6 Academy Awards: film, director, score, actor (all of these will be undoubtedly deserved), original screenplay (which is better than Allen’s – but should lose with “The Separation”) and editing (my second choice after “The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo”). Cinematography will go to either “Hugo” (bad choice) or “The Tree of Life” (great choice in this category). Costumes probably to “Hugo” or “Jane Eyre”. Art direction to “Hugo” or “Harry Potter”. And Spencer will win with Bejo.
P.S. And I really hope that it will break this “Indie Spirit curse” – because if it doesn’t than some undeserving winner will pop up (probably “The Help”).
P.S.II. And if you say that critics say rubbish – than I have to remind you that last year you said differently when they rewarded “The Social Network”.
I like blah blah blah. I dislike blah blah blah. This movie is better blah blah blah. Daldry sucks blah blah blah. The Dark Knight blah blah blah. Blah blah blah deserves, blah blah blah doesn’t deserve to win. Blah blah blah. The spirits, the palm, the bears, the cesars, the golden globes, the boards of reviews, the guilds, the blah blah blahs… It’s entertainment, folks. That’s entertainment. That’s blah blah blah. Did you have a good time watching Jack n Jill? Great! I still love you. Fabulous, my friend! Blah blah blah. Scorsese who? Scorsese what? Ava-what? Blah blah blah. Enjoy the show later in the evening. (I will. It’s all about the dresses and the jewellery, isn’t it?) The end. Blah.
Right now, I’m thinking that cinematography is still “safe” with Tree of Life. Any other choice would be deemed blind or just plain crazy. It’s the first award of the evening and will tell us everything we need to know about what to expect for the remaining 3 hours.
Screenplay and art direction will fall, along with editing, score, costumes, picture, actor and director. It’s all part of the sweep mentality that started to build when the critics gave their last award – rationality has left the building. It’s all momentum now and this thing gets bigger and bigger. So I guess that means 8. Does it deserve 8? Of course not, NO film does, in any year.
Part of this is because this is what happens when voters have not seen all the nominees, when releases are crammed into a 2-3 week period at holiday time like commuters on a Japanese subway. But when a movie has taken the PGA, DGA, Globe, BAFTA, Cesar, and, most amazingly, seduced the majority of voters on this site, you can’t blame the system, or Harvey, or the price of gas.
It’s the little movie that could – and did – bigtime.
The Artist will win…
Best Picture (For sure)
Best Director
Best Actor
Best Score
Best Costume Design
And please, no more. I really, really loved this movie,
but we all know that this movie will be forgotten in less than an hour when the Academy Awards ends with Billy Crystal’s farewell message…
Still I belive Clooney and Scorsese can pull some upsets, though.
Here’s the a more telling list of wins, including the unprecedented combo pack of Cannes/Spirit/Globe/Goya/Cesar/Bafta/Critics Choice/DGA/PGA. Unprecedented.
American Cinema Editors Awards
Australian Academy of Cinema and Television Arts
BAFTA
Boston Society of Film Critics Award
Cannes Film Festival
César Awards
Chicago Film Critics Association
Critics’ Choice Movie Awards
Denver Film Critics Society
Detroit Film Critics Society
Directors Guild Awards
European Film Awards
Florida Film Critics Circle
Golden Globe Awards
Goya Awards
Independent Spirit Awards
Las Vegas Film Critics Society
Leeds International Film Festival
London Film Critics’ Circle
New York Film Critics Circle Awards
New York Film Critics Online
Oklahoma Film Critics CirclePhoenix Film Critics Society
Producers Guild of America Award
San Sebastián International Film Festival
Santa Barbara International Film Festival
Screen Actors Guild Awards
St. Louis Gateway Film Critics Association
Utah Film Critics Association
Vancouver Film Critics Circle
A mindless sweep will just enhance the backlash. Screenplay would be the travesty, versus Midight in Paris or A Separation, which I finally got to see yesterday and which is excellent. I often think of Gandhi winning Best Costumes in the year of that senseless sweep. Nor am I of the mindset that Director and Picture need go hand in hand. I see them as two different animals and it always surprises me that conversation never takes place.
Hey do you guys think the Oscar BP List should be
The Artist
Bridesmaids
Drive
The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2
The Help
Hugo
Midnight in Paris
Tree of Life
@SC8 yeah not only does it have the critic’s choice films but the public’s choice just like last. TheFanGirl is a genius, why didn’t the Academy thought of that?
THey should’ve added The Lion King to the BP list 18 years ago, it would made a better choice than the Quiz Show.
“A mindless sweep will just enhance the backlash.”
For sure, there will be a backlash. I don’t think it will be as bitter as in previous years, though.
While I liked the film, I didn’t love it. It didn’t meet my high expectations I was expecting from some of the great silents from the 20′s. Having said that, Hazanavicius has managed – quite unwittingly, judging from his filmography of simple hommage films – to complete construction on the Tower of Babel here using borrowed plotlines, music, and universal themes that border on the simplistic. By doing that, he has transcended the need for language, politics, and any deep philosophical thought. It’s the power of silence where it evokes the same, basic audience responses in Europe, Asia, North America, etc, regardless of cultural background, education, ethnicity or social class.
It’s an accidental wonder that caught fire.
OCO300/SCLUB
Can you just stop making implications about HP8 already for god’s sakes. It is over. NO, the list would have been great without HP. Let’s stick to the real discussions without talking about Harry Potter or making implications over and over again.
No, SCLUB, the your list left out The Descendants. Why?
We are talking about the final day of the Academy Awards.
Can you just stop talking about HP8?
It is a children’s film, and it wasn’t recognized by the Academy or by other industry groups. Talk about the nominations already. Quit bringing HP over and over again, it is annoying.
SCub, that is not a very good list. Everything is fine. No one in his right mind would nominate Harry Potter because the previous films were not considered, why add that to the list? You want others’ opinion, I would say it is a lousy list because H8 is in it, sorry.
You can catch my Ollie Awards on you tube http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?feature=mhee&v=EoRhCRl_Y6c
A person wrote: Fabulous, my friend! Blah blah blah. Scorsese who? Scorsese what? Ava-what? Blah blah blah. Enjoy the show later in the evening. (I will. It’s all about the dresses and the jewellery, isn’t it?) The end. Blah.
***
Then watch Project Runway.
It’s the little movie that could – and did – bigtime.
*****
And yet, audiences still aren’t flocking to see it. So much lavish attention to something so little.
Can you just stop talking about HP8?
It is a children’s film, and it wasn’t recognized by the Academy or by other industry groups.
****
Whatever you think about HP8 not deserving to be nominated for best picture, it went beyond the borders of just a children’s film and appeals to people of all ages.
Nobody is denying the phenomena of it. It is just annoying that sclub/OC300 would not stop talking about H8 whenever he makes his comments here.
I am predicting that The Artist will win 7 BUT could actually win 10. I will be happy as long as Clooney (who wasn’t even nommed for an Independent Spirit award)in the most overrated movie in yrs (Descendants) AND Streep both lose. I think this is going to be a very satisfactory night!!
In all the excitement and anticipation of having the second African-American actress in a decade win Best Actress, no one–I believe–has pointed out the fact that if “The Artist” wins,it will be the first foreign film in the 85-year history of the Academy to take Best Picture.
Whether you or not you think it is deserving, if it indeed does win, one should be aware that is extremely important for world cinema, especially European, and in France, the anticipation is palpable and watched closely by the media (I get TV5, the Francophone cable television).
Its winning would be much needed encouragement to film-makers around the world (only two other French films have been even nominated for Best Picture).
The irony is that the film is silent and about and shot in Hollywood.
Brian, I think The Artist is one of the most overrated films this year.
How is The Descendant overrated?
You just don’t understand the film.
The irony is that the film is silent and about and shot in Hollywood.
That’s one irony. The other irony is the Oscars passing up La Dolce Vita, Fanny and Alexander, Persona…
…the Academy snubs City of God, Let the Right One In, A Prophet.
…teases and balks with Amélie, Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon and Pan’s Labyrinth…
…because they’re waiting to bestow Best Picture and 7 other Oscars on the perfect “foreign film” ? Now after 50 years of overlooked international masterpieces, they finally found something “foreign” they can love?
I’ve seen this mentality before. Americans travel the world in search of meaningful fulfillment and then end up falling head over heels for the first perky foreign cutie who can speak 10 words of bar-girl English.
It’s the tiresome American syndrome of pretending to broaden our horizons by clinging to the “foreign” encounters that provide the best reflection of a foreign fetish for Americana.
No, I guess I’m too dumb to comprehend how an ABC Afterschool Special can be considered an Oscar contender.
BTW when The Artist wins tonight, it will become one of the most honored films in HISTORY–Palme d’Or, Golden Globe, Critics’ Choice, Cesar, Bafta, DGA, NY Film Critics, Independent Spirit, and Oscar.
At least it’s a symbolic, even if token, first step. Most Americans may not even realize it’s “a foreign film.” “The Pianist” a few years ago also was a “foreign film” shot in English and financed by France, Germany, U.K. (in fact, it won seven Cesar awards).
Foreign-language films account for I recall only 2% of U.S. box-office receipts. So “French” films like “March with Penguins” or “Winged Separation” are done in English, as Americans have a hard time and will not go to see a film that’s dubbed.
So I think the producers of “The Artist” were taking a gamble in shooting a silent film in black-and-white. I remember seeing mention of it on TV5 almost half a year ago and I thought to myself, “This will never attract an American audience, ever. Period. It will disappear as soon as it appears on U.S. screens, assuming it ever does.”
The ’60s and ’70′s ironically were the best decades for foreign (European) cinema in America in terms of box-office appeal and Academy recognition (Bergman, Truffaut, Fellini…).
It is really tough for foreign film-makers to break into the American market, even when they are “blockbusters” with acclaimed directors at the helm. Witness this year the weak box-office of “Hugo,” “War-horse,” and “The Adventures of Tintin.”
The Chinese seem to stuck following the kung-fu success model of “Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon,” with weak follow-ups (and accompanying enormous budgets) like “Hero,” etc.
Anytime a non-Hollywood film gets recognition, I am at least somewhat happy.
Let’s hope tonight that “The Artist” breaks the 85-year-old curse on foreign films winning the top Oscar. From Canada to France to the Middle and Far East and to Latin America, they will be paying attention.
I thought to myself, “This will never attract an American audience, ever. Period. It will disappear as soon as it appears on U.S. screens…”
turns out you were right.
Sasha, I’m predicting the same seven for The Artist as you are. The stats for a film winning that many and losing/winning Screenplay are pretty hefty though. I really hope that at least that category can go to one of the other four films though, as they are all much more worthy. I mean, Hazanavicius is going to get two Oscars as it is tonight, does he need three??
The Chinese seem to stuck following the kung-fu success model of “Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon,” with weak follow-ups (and accompanying enormous budgets) like “Hero,” etc.
Hero and Curse of the Golden Flower aren’t Crouching Tiger caliber but they’re not weak. They’re pretty great. Few American action films can compare.
Interesting to compare the success of Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon — adjusted for inflation it earned over $310 million in theaters. on a budget of… wait for it… $15 million.
The Artist for cinematography, best pictiure, director, screenplay, art direction, film editing, best actor!
Um, I consider “Hero” to pretty high above CTHD (which I’ve never considered as great as others apparently do).
Chill Roberta
I note that the last time the Independent Spirit Award for Best Picture went to a film which was the heavy favorite to win the Oscar was only six years ago, i.e., “Brokeback Mountain.”
This time the two awards will in all likelihood go to the same film, which is, if you think about it, rather nice in that a “fringe” film (art house/foreign/small budget/independent) actually makes it to the “big-time.”
In both 2006 and 2012, as well, there is also a film in competition which deals with domestic race relations (“Crash” and “The Help,” respectively), a genre heavily favored by the Academy, one that perhaps took the place of the erstwhile favored “epic” spectacles of the “Ben Hur” variety that dominated the awards in the 40′s and 50′s.
Films winning 7 Oscars
Schindler’s List
Lawrence of Arabia
Patton
The Bridge on the River Kwai
The Artist
The Bridge on the River Kwai should be replaced with Paths of Glory.
“BTW when The Artist wins tonight, it will become one of the most honored films in HISTORY–Palme d’Or, Golden Globe, Critics’ Choice, Cesar, Bafta, DGA, NY Film Critics, Independent Spirit, and Oscar.”
Oh you are gloating already, ugh. Who cares? The Artist is a very interesting film, but it won’t have the long lasting power as other Oscar winners like Schindler’s List or Silence of the Lambs.
I don’t mean to generalize, but you are the kind of The Artist fanboy who is stuck up, and don’t really know much about cinema, sorry to break it to you this way.
Sclub. Talk about the nominations for a change, thanks.
Enough HP, chin up.
Besides Harry Potter’s last film was not only favored by the public but with the critics, I mean did you see the reviews (positive) and the scores that Deathly Hallows Part 2 got? It did a terrific job in the domestic/foreign box office, also had arguably more reviews and votes than any film last year just like alot of films that were nominated for Best Picture like Avatar, Lord of the Rings, Indiana Jones, The Lion King, E.T., The King’s Speech, and even these 2 are animated and one of them wasn’t nominated for an Oscar Best Picture (but for Golden Globe) Toy Story 3 and The Lion King.
And it wasn’t a kiddie film or have kid actors…well the first 2 did, but it grew to a kinda teen/young adult/family film just like these youngsters of the film that are now young adult actors like Jaleel White, Fred and Ben Savage, Dustin Diamond, Mario Lopez, Mark-Paul Gosselar, Tony Danza, Eddie Murphy, Will Smith, Jim Carrey, Jamie-Lynn Spears, Kenan Thompson, Kel Mitchell, Josh Server, Amanda Bynes, Leonardo Dicaprio, Brad Pitt, Jason Priestly, Miranda Cosgrove, Josh Peck, Drake, and let’s not forget Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen.
And don’t you or everyone think that HP’s Last film should be nominated for Best Picture and/or actor for all the hardwork it’s franchise and it’s actors have done for the past 10 years?
And Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows – Part 2 is among the year’s best reviewed films, one of the most widely hailed and recognized, and the most anticipated film/event of the year.
And it is too late but it always be one of the best films of 2011 and the biggest oscar snub of 2011
Nobody cares about HP8, you are just doing this to be annoying.
MI4 also made money, got great reviews, so it should have been a contender??
Get over it. HP8 this and HP8 that, stop it already, Sclub
HP8 wasn’t snubbed, it was rightfully not nominated. Everyone expected. Critics and box office don’t matter, just like MI4. HP is like MI4, and it no Lord of the Rings.
“nd don’t you or everyone think that HP’s Last film should be nominated for Best Picture and/or actor for all the hardwork it’s franchise and it’s actors have done for the past 10 years?”
No really. It wasn’t good enough, and it was not the kind of film that Oscar voters would go far. It is as simple as that. Just because you think so, doesn’t mean it should have been nominated. What you think is not really that important.
“And it wasn’t a kiddie film or have kid actors…”
It actually was, and it is Lord of the Rings wanna be.
SClub, you and your twin OC0300 are the only person who thinks HP is the biggest snub of 2011. Speak for yourself, please.
Dear Robert:
“The Descendants” stunk–and apparently the Academy and the Indie Spirit Awards agreed with me.
brian (also lower case)