You can get the self-helpy vibe from this one better:
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Thank you very much, it´s a good point.
This movie looks great … Phoenix is just transfixing in every scene which elevates the movie to “must see” status for me
Well spoken, Ryan. And I fully agree with your sentiments.
I have just detected a certain “cut the crap”-attitude in the way you deal with SH. I figured that it had to do with you knowing him (and therefore feeling entitled to “educate” him a bit when he gets a tad too narrow-minded)…
My post wasn’t meant to rub you the wrong way. I hope you sensed that.
I figured that it had to do with you knowing him (and therefore feeling entitled to “educate” him a bit when he gets a tad too narrow-minded)…
I would never presume to educate Stephen. I have the greatest respect for the brave way Stephen forged a place for himself in the film community in an era when all kinds of bigotry was much tougher for our brothers to overcome. Guys like Stephen paved the way for the rest us, and I’ll always look up to him with admiration for that.
[shrug] So what we sometimes disagree. It might be icky if we didn’t.
hey, Stephen, how’s it feel for us to be speaking in hushed tones as if you’re sleeping and not able to hear us! 🙂 Hope you’re having sweet dreams, my friend.
Ryan: You getting upset or annoyed every time Stephen Holt utters a word on AD is an ongoing saga…I wonder what that is about?;)
Don’t forget, btw, than in the last 25 years Woody has delivered lots of good work (Bullets Over Broadway, Husbands and Wives, Deconstructing Harry, Crimes and Misdemeanors, at the top of my head). Not only are they good films, they also demonstrate quite a range and variety.
Ps. Stephen must be the very definition of an acquired taste…I have learned to find him sort of endearing. His myopia is a schtick, right?
Ryan: You getting upset or annoyed every time Stephen Holt utters a word on AD
First of all, that’s untrue. Stephen offers many more comments on AD than those few that rub me wrong.
If you think it’s ok to let a shallow comparison of Malick and Anderson pass without remark or any attempt to refute, then you’re not me.
On what basis could such a weak comparison be based? The fact that they both put Stephen to sleep? Not good enough.
Stephen and Sasha go back 10 years. I’ve known Stephen for nearly 5 years and I like to think I’ve done him solid many times by helping to frame and spotlight his festival contributions to the site in the best way possible. Stephen is a dear friend of the site and he knows it. He knows it so well that sometimes an auxiliary proprietary tone can become infused in what he writes here.
Stephen speaks from a platform of established repute in certain NY circles. I value Stephen for the direct insight he can provide into the minds of many dozens of Academy members whose attitudes and tastes he reflects.
What can sometimes be frustrating is when that peek inside the heads of 300 Oscar voters is often extrapolated into Grand Erroneous Pronouncements of What The Academy Thinks as a Whole. Because that voice of dubious authority is usually way off.
Mads, I don’t like to see movies bashed before they even open. It’s mean-spirited, it’s damaging and I think it’s the antithesis of what Awards Daily is all about. I’ll speak out against attempts to kill a nascent movie in its crib whenever I see egregious examples, no matter who tries to do it. You wonder what’s up with that? Now you know.
Maybe you don’t recall Stephen’s review of There Will Be Blood, reporting from the Men’s Room of the theater where it screened because Stephen walked out, bored, but that didn’t stop him from proclaiming TWBB was dead in the water. Based on wisecracks he overheard in the bathroom from other men who walked out.
Maybe you don’t remember that, but I do. Stephen and I go way back, and he should surely know that I’m fond of him in my own way. But I’m not going to give casual slander a free pass.
PaulH, you’re guilty of this too. But you know I still consider you a good buddy because we’re part of the same happy Twitter family, right?
But when PaulH or Stephen Holt or ‘reform the academy’ or anybody else slams and pisses on a movie before it’s even released, I feel like my silence tacitly condones and enables that behavior. So I speak up to disagree, ok?
Maybe you don’t realize. Every time somebody — anybody — makes a clumsy premature assessment of a promising work of art, an innocent infant cinefile ages 10 years.
These clips seem to be a contest to see how many regular moviegoing fans we can alienate so that when it finally comes out, only 3 people will be in each of the theaters this clusterfuck screens in.
Didn’t Terence Malick direct this last year?
Didn’t Terence Malick direct this last year?
Yes. The Master is a shot-for-shot remake of The Tree of Life. Good catch. The both contain pauses when nothing frenetic is happening. Identical!
good grief, Stephen. You saw Midnight in Paris 12 times. (that’s no exaggeration, right?)
Didn’t Woody Allen direct Midnight in Paris every year for the past 25 years?
Oh dear I never thought I wished I lived in Chicago… Release date in the UK, November 9th.. bugger
@rufus
because nuance is behavior…you dont need to know context to see subtleties in behavior…it’s just behaving…the more of it, the more nuance
How can you have nuance without context?
again…the acting looks phenomenal. That singing flow that Hoffman is doing with his voice is pretty cool. And the depth of Joaquin’s nuances is just astounding.
JOHNNY GREENWOOD’S SCORE BETTER GET SOME OSCAR RECOGNITION THIS TIME! HIS THERE WILL BE BLOOD WAS QUITE BRILLIANT, THIS ONE SOUNDS JUST AS GREAT
The music reminded me very much of Punch-Drunk Love. Only one month away.
This trailer didn’t affect me as the earlier ones. Nonetheless, I’ll this when it comes out. Lucky b******** get to watch it today while the rest of us have to wait for several more weeks.
Joaquin is almost lock now.
jesus, joaquin gives me goosebumps in every single one of these trailers. i think this will be a performance for the ages.
Marketing a film like The Master towards widespread appeal would be a disaster. You can’t sell something for what it isn’t. They tried to do that with Drive and it didn’t work. They’re clearly selling this to the niche audience and leaving its widespread appeal up to the Movie Gods.
We should be thanking our lucky stars that there are still directors like PTA that don’t think think in terms like ‘widespread appeal’ and what sells versus what doesn’t. And we’re equally lucky that he appears to be working with producers and distributors that are on board with what he wants to do – and don’t feel the need to twist or embellish his films in order to market them. The teasers and trailers have done exactly what they need to – create intrigue in the final product without distorting the material or giving everything away. If only more would follow suit and trust in creating a sense of mystery around their films.
I can’t wait.
WTF is going on in these trailers? Hope the film has a narrative and isn’t going to be this ongoing state of people blinking and taking five minutes to say a sentence.
Every trailer is just so great!
I think the marketing team knows their audience. I’m intrigued as hell as to what’s going on here.
If these trailers are any indication, Phoenix’s performance will be a master stroke.
rufussondheim, If these trailers are their best attempt at drawing audiences, then it hints at how abstract this film will be! This is gonna be very interesting!
I just can’t figure out the marketing behind this picture. They are shooting for such a small niche audience here, there seems to be no effort to have any widespread appeal.