Just wanted to say thanks to all our readers in Ohio and Florida who have to endure crazy long lines and other obstacles in order to vote. GOP officials in swing states and elsewhere across the country are doing their worst to beat away Democratic voters by cheating. Rachel Maddow and others on MSNBC’s evening team are doing their best to expose those disgraceful efforts. I see the long lines of undaunted citizens and I want to hope those tactics have backfired. I hear these stories of voter suppression and I’m ashamed to think how low right-wing extremists will sink. Then I look at those ridiculous lines of strong-minded determined voters and I’m proud. “Ever Stalwart.”

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  • Yashar

    I think AD has finally crossed the line. Now, I love Ryan and I love Sasha and I LOVE Awards Daily. Understand that you prefer to discuss politics alongside the award articles and understand is a very important election for your country but PLEASE, this is NOT even “Politics and Cinema” as the tag suggest. Other posts like movie stars talking about Women’s right or the comparison of Lincoln and modern events are acceptable but this?

    Please don’t tell me “If you don’t like it, don’t click on it” or “go read another awards site”. I want to read every post on AD and I don’t want to go to other sites because the passion within AD articles is the only thing that makes the whole awards season bearable for me. Yes, what the Republicans are doing wrong and unfair things but that doesn’t mean their assholery should pollute a site like this. Some mixed articles are fine but this is pure politics and no cinema. Let’s just focus on Weinsteins, Spielbergs, Hoopers and Afflecks on AD.

    Don’t feed the political trolls even by fighting them on a Cinematic site like this.

  • kjbacon

    Ryan/Sasha: Rock on.

  • Yashar, I’ve changed the tag for you.

    Kjbacon, Thanks comrade.

  • Christophe

    Huh Sasha? Who told you these people waiting in lines are voting for Obama? Maybe they’re just tired of Obama’s failed policies and determined to get him out of the White House.

  • I posted this, not Sasha.

    We know there are Romney voters in line too. That they have to suffer this indignity is equally disgraceful. It’s all disgraceful.

    The lines are there because the Republicans Secretary of State knows low turnout for early voters benefits the GOP. I’m aware that it hurts everybody who wants to vote early, regardless of party affiliation.

    But don’t be naive. The restrictions are in place for one purpose: to impend working class voters who are unable to get a full day off to stand in line for 6 hours.

    Early voting in Ohio is breaking 64% for Obama and 32% for Romney. Why don’t you watch MSNBC and learn something. That’s why I posted this. To get the facts out there, even for Republicans. You provide a good example, Christophe: some Republicans seem to be unaware of the facts.

    I’m thanking all the voters in Ohio and Florida for their resilience. I didn’t say, “Thanks, Democrats!” But thanks for showing your butt. You help in ways you can’t imagine.

  • Yashar

    Thanks Ryan 🙂
    I don’t live in US but if I did, I be would considered a Democrat. With that said, I still think AD would be a better place with less political stuff (Personally HATE politics of any sort because I absolutely believe that pretty much everything up there is a dirty game).

    Again, thanks for updating tags.

  • Daniel

    Aww Ryan,

    You really DO watch a lot of MSNBC, don’t you? Sorry to inform you, butsince I actually work on the ground for the Romney campaign in Ohio let me give you… [deleted]


    No thanks, Daniel I don’t need you to give me any junk stats. You don’t get a free pass to Sasha’s site to come insult us. Your condescending calling Sasha ignorant and “LMFAO” about things she writes.

    Enough. Enough slinging insults at both of us that I don’t want to repeat — not because your language is coarse. Just because it’s ugly.

    You think I’m infringing on your free speech because you can’t come post your GOP propaganda? Look, Daniel. Sasha is the owner of this site. You’re a guest. You don’t get invited to Sasha’s house because you can’t be trusted not to plant Romney signs in her yard and write your snobbish graffiti on her front door, ok?

    If we get unwanted Google ads on the site hawking the latest screed from Ann Coulter, we would seek remedies to have that junk removed. It’s offensive. We don’t want offensive garbage on the site that insults the intelligence of readers.

    We have dozens of good conservative fans of AD whose visits we value and whose opinions in the comments we trust. We have plenty of lively discussions with readers who have different political views. That’s fine, that’s welcome. As long as the comments are civil.

    But there are boundaries we ask readers to respect. We don’t like readers who insult other readers, and we sure as heck aren’t obligated to put up with drive-by slanders who never come to discuss movies, but only show up to insult me or Sasha.

    I don’t think much of your attitude, Daniel, but I’ve never called you names. If you wonder where you crossed the line, I can pinpoint it for you exactly, ok?

    There are voters in your state of Ohio who are being forced to stand in line for hours to exercise their right to vote. Your contemptible Republican Secretary of State is deliberately trying to make it harder for the Black citizens of Ohio to vote.

    Daniel, you know what you wrote. You called those voters “dumb/lazy.”

    So the rest of your comment is gone, pal.

    Run along. Waste the next few hours humping for your slimy candidate.

    Mitt Romney is a liar, and smart voters in Ohio know it. Tomorrow night we find out how many voters in Ohio are able to make the smart choice and vote for President Obama.

    You can lick your wounds, wallowing in the attitude that those devoted voters in line are “dumb/lazy” in your eyes. Go write about that on right-wing racist sites. But don’t try to post your crap here.

    Come talk about movies anytime. But we’re not interested in offering you a platform to wave your hate around.

    (yes, I do watch MSNBC. That’s how I learn about things that most of the useless media pretend didn’t happen.)


  • You’re welcome, Yashar.

    (You’re welcome to hijack this discussion too, if you want. Turn it into talk about movies. Like, tell me, what’s your favorite political thriller set in Amsterdam? I’ll watch it. I’d like learn more about politics in your country. Movies make those lessons fun.)

  • So anyway I’m going to take this time to tell you my thoughts on the issue.

    Firstofly I had no idea there was all this early voting. It’s weird.

    Secondably, I actually was one of the illustrious poll workers you meet at these places a few years back. So I’ll tell you a story.

    The way they do it here there is a “check in” table and a “check out” table. You come in and give your address and then name to the people at the “check in” table. The list is usually split up amongst them by address. The only time they ask for ID is if there is a box next to your name that says “ID”. That happens supposedly because you didn’t send in the census form for your address last time, or there is some other question about your situation. Once they cross your name off the list they give you a ballot and you go into these stalls that have partitions so you can’t see your neighbors work and there’s a felt pen in there. You have to connect the head of the arrow to its butt next to the name of the person you want to vote for. If you make a mistake you have to start over. And you’re not supposed to ask questions or use your phone which is why I’m confused about all the celebrities tweeting pics of themselves voting. Anyhoo, once you’re done you have to go over to the “check out” table, give your address and name again so they can check your off this second list, and then you put your ballot into the scanning machine that registers your votes. If you filled it out right, you get a happy beep. If it’s a happy beep it counts you and the display shows what number voter you were. If not you get a crazy/psycho beep and it spits it back out and you have to fill out a new one.

    Then at the end of the night everyone has to make sure the number of people on the “check in” list that were crossed off matches the number of people on the “check out” list. Then the people in charge fill out the forms if there were any write-ins and they gather up all the provisional ballots. The machine spits out this really long receipt that has all the information on it and that goes in the box. The cop who’s there at the end (every station has a cop all day) oversees everything and I think he’s the one who takes the box of votes to the Election Commission. Ours is in City Hall. Then that’s it. Usually like 10% of the people vote. You might get 20% in an election year that’s super important.

    Now I know there’s a lot of shenanigans out there about voter suppression and stuff but I personally think we all should have to show ID every time we vote. Here’s why.

    One time I was sitting there bored out of my mind and this woman came in. She wasn’t on my list but I noticed her because she had these really distinct frames of her glasses. They were clear plastic with red and blue and a funky design and I thought Superman should have them. Anyway I noticed them and liked them and then time went on. I went to lunch. I get back from lunch and this it about two hours later. I sit down and I see across the room the same glasses frames. No one else had noticed but this was the same lady with a different sweater. I went over to the people in charge who had to get the cop’s attention because they recognized her too. All they did was stop her from voting a second time. I though she should have gotten The Chair. But she came up with some cockamamie excuse that she didn’t know there was anything wrong with it and was voting for her mom who couldn’t come because she was sick. Bullcrap, I say. Because why would she have gone home and come back with a different top on if she wasn’t trying to get over? The point is if I hadn’t got back from lunch just then she would have voted twice, because no one else noticed.

    Anyhoo, sometimes people do these things. So voter fraud actually does exist. It shouldn’t be used as a reason to get normal folks not to vote. But for me, I think we should have to show ID. All of us. And I think we should have had a national ID since 9/11. It would have solved everything. But as for the identification we have now, we can all have a state ID. I don’t drive. But I have one. Yes, it costs money but I needed it for other things, like travel, if I wrote checks, which I don’t, but most people have them one way or another. Making up voter identification cards and stuff like that is stupid though.

    Here is what the ballot I will vote on tomorrow will look like.

  • Antoinette, you did good. I mean it. Because you were there to exercise good common sense and reasonable vigilance, you prevented a problem.

    The problem was averted without the need for a national voter ID card.

    Do you think there are thousands of poll workers who wander off and allow people to run rampant at polling places voting twice or three times until somebody like you looks up and notices?

    How many times would you guess that happens? 1000 times per election? 10,000 times? 10,000 people across the country? 2000 voters sneaking around in each of the 50 states — 10,000 felonious voters looking for a way to try to get themselves arrested and imprisoned because they want to vote twice?

    Are those 10,000 gangster voters infiltrating the poll booths reason enough for you to infringe on the rights of 150 million honest voters who are now able to vote with the same freedom that has worked just fine for 240 years in every election in US history? Or do you suspect we’ve had a lot of presidents who’ve been elected by a bunch of conspirators who voted more than once?

    I’ll try not to guess your answer, I’ll try not to base my assumptions on anything you said a few weeks ago, like when you said you think anybody who sells marijuana should be executed.

  • Yashar

    I honestly didn’t have any intention of hijacking the thread. Honestly sorry about that.

    I’m actually not from Netherlands. I am posting from Iran and since it was deemed unhealthy for our public to visit movie related sites, pretty much every movie site INCLUDING the Rottentomates.com, I have to use a VPN. Pretty much everything is blocked here (Facebook, Twitter, video game sites, national geographic and pretty much a lot of other things) and thus people have to buy VPNs that are secretly sold by the same government that blocks / filters everything. So believe me when I say there is NOTHING I hate more than religious zealots and super conservative governments. In terms of political thrillers, the closest example is Argo. An outstanding film that depicts one of the darkest eras in Iran’s history. Another great political thriller would be The Dark Knight Rises because what Bane did to the more naive people of Gotham, someone (Can’t use the name but you know who) did to us. The difference is that people of Gotham had to suffer for only 5 months while people here are still suffering after decades. Scenes from Tale of Two Cities / Rises pretty much copied what happened during Argo’s time frame and shows how easily public can fall for people like Bane and … .

    Anyway, sorry about going OT.

  • no no, Yashar! I wasn’t scolding. I was serious. I was inviting you to veer off and find a way to bring movies onto this page.

    You didn’t hijack anything, my friend. I was kidding. But I’m not kidding about wondering which politically-themed movies from your country that you could recommend to me.

    See? That’s a really fascinating thing you’ve shared with us about your circumstances. Now I’m even more curious. Can you tell me a couple of Iranian movies that have meant a lot to you, ones that have managed to convey a subversive political slant?

  • Yashar

    Thanks for this 🙂
    Just realized that I used so many “Pretty much”s in the previous post.

    In terms of managing to convey any form of political slant, there are pretty much NONO. If the filmmakers did make them, they would be dead. While gay marriage is a hot discussion (And rightful right for gays and lesbians) Iran is a country where gays and lesbians are KILLED. Not just jailed, tortured or something but killed (It has death penalty). Romney and republicans have their disgusting laws about abortion but at least they don’t attack the victim. in Iran, law pretty much sides with the rapist if it’s a man.

    When filmmakers like Jafar Panahi try to make something a bit critical of the society, they are quickly jailed. His Crimson Gold isn’t even political yet it was banned here. The only films I can mention / suggest are Asghar Farhadi’s 2 earlier works: Dance in the Dust (Raghs dar ghobar, a favorite of mine) and Beautiful City (Shahr’e Zibaa) along with A Separation..

    I would also strongly recommend Panahi’s The Circle: A movie about how horrible is the whole situation here for many women… . It is a hard watch and banned here (Like other Panahi movie) but definitely important experience for any real movie fan as well as any true human rights believer.

  • Do you think there are thousands of poll workers who wander off and allow people run rampant at polling places voting twice or three times until somebody like you looks up and notices?

    Yes. You should see some of the crackheads working at polling places. I’m not kidding. I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re actual crackheads. When I worked there, the pay was $86 for the whole day. That’s from 7am to 8pm. Not enticing. So you don’t get the best minds or people who even care at all working there usually. They just have nothing better to do. I didn’t.

    How many times would you guess that happens?

    I have no idea. But recently in this area, we’ve had votes come down to a difference of less than 10 people. Usually it’s a local council seat or something small like that but it all counts. Anyone who wants a fair honest election should want people to be held accountable.

    Are those 10,000 gangster voters infiltrating the poll booths reason enough for you to infringe on the rights of 60 million honest voters who are now able to vote with the same freedom that has worked in every election just fine for 240 years in every election in US history?

    No one should infringe on anyone’s right to vote. And no one should be able to vote twice.

    Or do you suspect we’ve had a lot of presidents who’ve been elected by a bunch of conspirators who voted more than once?

    When an election is super close I think we should all want to make sure everyone only votes once.

    The way they do it here, I could easily vote twice. I’ll give an example. Say Sasha and I worked together and I knew she was registered but one day at work she vocalized that she had no intention of voting and hadn’t in years. If I know where she lives I could easily go to her polling station and say “1313 Mockingbird Lane, Sasha Stone” and vote in her place. The people there wouldn’t recognize me or her most likely. And if I showed up and recognized someone who might recognize me back I could just leave. The only way they’d catch me is if she voted really early, after saying she wouldn’t. Then if I came later and tried to use the same name, I’d be caught. But she would have to get there first. If I got there first, they’d never be able to go in and figure out which ballot was my faulty one. And they’d most likely not remember what I looked like to try to prosecute me later either.

    When you sign up to be a poll worker they try to place you in your neighborhood. I think the reason is probably that they think, or thought years ago, that you would recognize your neighbors. I have no idea who my neighbors are. If someone came in and gave an address two doors down from me I probably wouldn’t recognize them. People move a lot nowadays. Everything is constantly in flux. I think these methods that formerly worked no longer do. I also don’t think it’s that much of a hardship to have to prove your identity. However, we all know that people who do not have ID will still be allowed to vote. They are allowed to vote on provisional ballots and when everything checks out those will be counted. If the election isn’t an obvious win right away, they’ll wait to make sure all those votes are counted.

    I’ll try not to guess your answer, I’ll try not to base my assumptions on anything you said a few weeks ago, like when you said you think anybody who sells marijuana should be executed.

    You shouldn’t assume Ryan. 😛 I watched Rachel last night too. And I heard her saying that long lines discouraged people from voting. Voting is important. It’s your civic duty. Making it inconvenient wouldn’t stop me from voting. So I don’t understand the people who leave after a few hours. If you have a physical disability or are going to be extra busy on election day, you can have an absentee ballot sent to your home that you send back and it’s counted before everyone else. At least here they take them out of the envelope first thing in the morning and put them through the machines. IMO, it’s easy to vote here. I know in other places they’ve been playing games and making it difficult. I said that shouldn’t happen. But it’s been highly publicized for months now. So people should be ready.

    I have to go out, so if you want me to say answer anything else it’ll have to be later tonight.

  • Yes, it costs money but I needed it for other things, like travel, if I wrote checks, which I don’t, but most people have them one way or another.

    Most people do. 21 million American adults do not. 17 million adults in the US don’t even have a checking or savings account at a bank.

    But fuck those folks, right? If they’re too poor to even have bank account, they should definitely be forced to spend 30-50 bucks to prove who they are once every two years. Who knows, they might be part of the nationwide network of double-voters lurking in sleeper cells in every town. And I bet they’re all goddamn Democrats.

    (because, egads! what if half the people who tried to vote twice were Republicans! yikes, then the cheaters from both parties would simply cancel each other out. whoa. Mind Blown.)

  • Yes. You should see some of the crackheads working at polling places.

    shocking. they should be executed.

  • No one should infringe on anyone’s right to vote. And no one should be able to vote twice.

    I guess I fail to see what would prevent anybody from having two IDs, if they’re that determined to risk arrest. They could even wear two different sweaters for the two photos.

    Pro tip: Take off those conspicuous glasses for the fake ID.

  • (Antoinette, I hope you can see I have a playful attitude about this. You’re probably going to get your wish. National ID cards are coming soon, no doubt. They’ll for sure be mandatory in Neo-Seoul.

    My point is, seems like a heckuva lot of hoopla, hardship and confusion being caused, with zero evidence that a problem exists. And I guess there’s nothing suspicious about the fact that it’s only Republicans who want to cause this confusion, right?

    If there’s to be a national voter ID card, I hope there’s some way for people in disadvantaged financial circumstances to get a waiver on the cost.

    And maybe the governments could make sure everybody has this ID in plenty of time for an election? Instead of — surprise! — letting people know 6 weeks ahead of time that they’ll need proof of who they are. Nothing fishy about that either.

    I’m thinking that there are probably more efficient ways to steal an election than praying for the ingenuity of compulsive double-voters who might show up where the pollwatchers are crackheads.

    For example, you could go door to door telling people you’re there to collect their absentee ballots. And then throw those ballots away if they’re not filled out the way you want.

    Like the Republicans tried to do in Colorado this week.)

  • Yashar, Thanks so much for your time to indulge my off-topic questions.

    I’m putting all those titles on my list of movies to see soon. Except for A Separation, I’m unfamiliar with all of them.

    Jafar Panahi, Crimson Gold and The Circle
    Asghar Farhadi, Dance in the Dust and Beautiful City

    Sincere thanks for putting up with me and Sasha and our political anxiety these past few weeks.

  • Yashar

    Thank you for listening to my long and rant filled posts 🙂
    I just hope you can find those films. The Circle I know is out in the international circuit but I’m not sure the rest. Hopefully Farhadi’s films can be found after his Oscar for A Separation.

    Also, while I do prefer a politics free site, I can understand that this political anxiety is the result of passion. The passion that you and Sasha show for movies is actually what makes me enjoy AD so much. The articles here don’t feel just like analytical and cold essays. They’re personal, emotional and dividing. Still haven’t forgotten about Sasha’s moving article / review for Fincher’s The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.

  • Sofina

    I’m not living in the U.S. either and every time you guys have elections, I’m simply amazed how incompetently everything has been arranged. It’s easy to see from other side of the pond, that those fibs would be easy to fix, but I guess Republicans prefer to keep things little unsettled so that they can smudge things if results don’t look promising. In my country this would be considered obstructing the democratic voting process and any party trying to affect it would get in serious trouble.

    Also, I don’t really get why felons shouldn’t have a right for voting. Let’s face it, most of them have poor education and are relatively uninterested in voting anyways, so why try to alienate them furthermore from the society. Here it doesn’t matter if you have less than perfect background, as long as you are of age and have right nationality. It’s considered as a basic right. No matter what you’ve done.

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  • Tony

    Now, now, we’ve seen shenanigans on the other side as well. People choose Romney, the ballot marks for Obama, but the voter checks and notices it — hopefully always.
    If one believes that Fox is unreliable, you can’t say in good conscience that MSNBC is reliable.
    I’ve always found it interesting that in some big cities, once you subtract children, turnout approaches 100% — an impossibility! (Gotta love the Dems with the multiple votes and dead voters.)

  • steve50

    (Scrolled back and read the new tag. Love it – raw honesty on election eve!)

    Yahsar, you are awesome and thanks for the tips on The Circle, Dance in the Dust and Beautiful City.

    Sofina – interesting point on allowing felons to vote as a way to reintegrate them. It’s not as though they can hijack an election unless the prison population is extremely large and like-minded. And watching the ads could be the punishment factor.

  • RyanR

    I voted early no problems in Ohio for Gary Johnson! Ha

  • Conor Bresnan

    I just wanted to make it known that there are people out there who enjoy movies who aren’t Democrats. Let’s please keep these things to Oliver Stone, Michael Moore, etc. I’ll enjoy their take way more than this site’s.

  • Mel

    On the eve of this election I feel like I could puke. I’m terrified. This feels like the most important one in my voting life…..I’ve been able to vote since 92.

  • rufussondheim

    Mel, to me it always feels like the most important election, and to be honest it is. You never know what the next four years will bring.

    I recall in 2000 nearly everyone said that there was no real difference between Bush and Gore, it was one of the driving narratives of the election. I imagine the Bush campaign team played that up in order to attract voters who were tired of the faux-scandal ridden Clinton years.

    I’m not going to speculate on what a Gore administration might have looked like, but in my opinion it would have been drastically different.

    And it’s clear to me now that 2000 was the most important election I’ve taken part in (I’m just a tad older than you) and it should serve as a reminder to everyone that every Presidential Election could potentially be the most important voting decision you’ve made. So I always suggest people take it that seriously.

  • rufussondheim

    Oh and Steve, I haven’t come across your opinions on Cloud Atlas and would love to know what you thought. If you’ve written about it here, could you point me in the right direction? Thanks!

  • Mel

    You are right, they are all important…..it just feels like so much social progress is at stake with this one……more than I can ever remember. Just thinking of the potential SCOTUS appointments in the next few years turns me cold.

    2000 was definitely a different world. When I think of life before 2000, it was so much different. How great we had it and didn’t even know it. So much has changed in the past decade. And pretty much all of it hinged on that election.

  • Conor, I tried to word this in terms of expressing my appreciation to responsible voters of every persuasion. All my frustration is directed at a handful of meddlesome state officials.

    ok, clearly I don’t approve of right-wing extremists, so I’m not going to mince words about the problems most everybody sees on the fringe of both ends of the spectrum.

    Do you seriously have a problem with me mentioning the troubles of people trying to vote this week?

    I’m thanking the voters who have the patience and endurance to stand up for their rights, for the people preserving the integrity of our democracy by overcoming forces trying to keep them down. By doing that, have I said something inflammatory?

  • g

    @Mel- I’m right there with you, I’m scared out of my mind and we are the same age! I voted for Clinton in 92 by absentee ballot because I was in college, tomorrow I can’t wait to stand in line for hours to vote for Obama! I’m not worried about Michigan, he will win here for sure!

  • g

    @Conor- can you honestly tell me it’s okay for people to stand in line for 10 hours just to vote in 2012? I thought we all had the right to vote although I know it took my ancestors 75 years of struggle so I can legally vote tomorrow. It seems like a few republican governors don’t want everyone to vote, do you agree with that? Are you proud of that? Is this something that’s going to inspire you to vote for republican candidates tomorrow? You probably don’t live in Ohio or Florida so you probably couldn’t care less about the lines of people waiting to vote. I care, I wish I lived there heck I would probably bake cookies to share with all my fellow voters.

  • Patryk

    Ryan you deserve a medal. I don’t know where you find your patience. But thanks as always for so eloquently telling the right wing trolls how twisted their postings are. There are other places for them to spew their venom.

  • Yashar

    Steve50, thank you for reading and caring about those films.
    Hopefully both you and Ryan can find and enjoy those films. Also, hopefully this election goes smoothly for every non-politician involved and the results don’t favor right-wing extremists.

  • Tony

    I don’t have a problem with the long lines so far, because this period has been EARLY VOTING. It didn’t used to exist, and it came into existence in order to help those who truly had hardships voting on Election Day. It was not meant to be a CONVENIENCE to the general public. That’s why 300 polling places were open in Florida during early voting, but 6000 polling places will be open today.

  • Tero Heikkinen

    All Europeans that I know got Jill Stein from that online election machine. But I do understand that if I was American, in two-party system, I would have to vote for Obama.

    In the online election, I side with:

    Jill Stein 92%
    Barack Obama 80%
    Mitt Romney 2%

  • Tero Heikkinen

    Somehow US elections are more entertaining than our own (Presidential). The voting process alone is full of drama. We don’t have long lines here (voting booths are plenty), but if it meant queuing for hours and hours, I would. Also, we have voting booths in prisons. I really don’t get why you are stripped from your citizen rights if you commited a crime. Or that you have to register beforehand just to be a voter. In my country everyone is already registered, but maybe the large population comes into play here. I would imagine. Anyway, make no mistake, Bible thumpers are very much voting, so do your best not to blow your country back a few centuries. We, foreigners, want to see a USA that goes forward and even shows a good example for many other countries, not the other way around. We can’t look to a country favourably if one of the major forces is an entity called God. Nothing against God as an idea, actually, but I am against “this particular God” that seems to be against everything that makes humanity a great thing. So say them.

    I know I live in a country that may feel like a utopia, and we actually don’t need USA as an example, but many do. We – however – do business with you guys, so these things matter.

    Some Americans (mostly Republicans) don’t get why the rest of the world is so interested in this. They even hate it, and mostly just don’t care (“is there any civilization outside US borders?”). But when any country is putting its finger in every other nation’s politics (usually in a negative manner), you are surely going to be noticed. Plus, you are voting for the Leader of the Free World. See, “world”?

    I’m gonna stay up all night – at least until to the point when Mitt Romney has to give that speech where he congratulates his voters who did good job, but sadly were not enough to actually win this thing. I want to see some tears. I want drama.

  • steve50

    “Oh and Steve, I haven’t come across your opinions on Cloud Atlas and would love to know what you thought. If you’ve written about it here, could you point me in the right direction? Thanks!”

    Hey, Rufus! Wondering where you disappeared as I haven’t heard your thoughts on it either.

    Yes, I have been putting something together (I’m all over the place on it which makes it a plus). I just don’t want to cover ground that’s been done, beautifully, I must add.

  • I would have voted for Jill Stein if she hadn’t asked me for money one second after I started following her on twitter. Yeah, I realized a couple of years ago that I really should have been European.

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