Tonight’s Ace Eddie awards (Editors Guild) will test the power of Gravity – does it have massive pull to continue to dominate this awards season? That will show up tonight when the editors hand out their prize.  DGA + Eddie is a powerful combination, as is SAG ensemble + Eddie if American Hustle wins in the comedy category.   Gravity is expected to win tonight – should any other film win in the drama department that could mean Best Picture really is up in the air.

But when was the last time a film won Best Picture without a screenplay or a SAG ensemble nod?  It has never happened in the history of the Screen Actors Guild, going back to 1995.  The only film to win Best Picture without a SAG ensemble nod was Braveheart.  These are some of the ways a Gravity win would mark a significant break with history where stats are concerned.  Last year’s Argo win broke one of the biggest stats — looking back over the last few years The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo’s editing win at the Oscars was one of the weirdest things I’ve ever seen, meaning, in a year with nine nominees and a preferential ballot, the film that wins editing wasn’t even nominated for Picture.

But let’s look at a few scenarios from most likely to least likely.

1. American Hustle and Gravity win.  Gravity already has 1/2 the PGA and the DGA.  It was not nominated for a WGA or an Oscar for writing – significant in and of itself. What does it mean if a movie’s writing is that undervalued?  For a Best Picture frontrunner not to have a screenplay nomination is significant, make no mistake. It’s the tech folks, though, that could push Gravity to the win.  Remember, Best Picture is almost always determined by the DGA except in the rare case of split years, which are nearly impossible to predict. Everyone seems to agree that American Hustle’s SAG win showed that the actors loved the movie, which they do. We have not seen any other major guild support. That could all change tonight. Armed with a Screenplay nomination at the Oscars, an Eddie and SAG ensemble win, American Hustle sets itself up to be the surprise spoiler.

2. Gravity does not win editing, some other films does, like Captain Phillips for instance. Or Her.  That will show love for a film but will not impact the Best Picture race at all except to say that this is more evidence of it being wide open.  Gravity needs this win. Can it still win Best Picture without it? Sure. But it is less likely, given the kind of movie that it is — heavy on the tech side of things.  Captain Phillips has dazzling, memorable editing, which could give it the win.

3. 12 Years a Slave wins.  That would be the most significant and unexpected thing to happen.  You can expect this not to happen, barring some off season Christmas miracle.  12 Years is not the kind of movie editors will vote for. Look at their history. They like the crowd pleasers, the consensus votes, which is why they can often predict Best Picture so well.  Right now, there are around 6,000 voting members of the Eddie, making them almost the exact same number as the Academy.  They do not use the preferential ballot, however.  A win for 12 Years would show broad industry support for a struggling underdog.  They would choose to vote for the film even if it wasn’t their favorite because they would feel like making history – a win for 12 Years would make it the first film to win the Ace that was directed and written by black filmmakers.  It has never happened, and likely never will in my lifetime.

I feel like tonight’s win for Gravity is as inevitable as its eventual Best Picture win.  But who knows, right?


12 Years a Slave, Joe Walker <—I would shit my pants.
Captain Phillips, Chris Rouse, A.C.E. <—spoiler
Gravity, Alfonso Cuarón & Mark Sanger <—predicted winner
Her, Eric Zumbrunnen, A.C.E. & Jeff Buchanan
Saving Mr. Banks, Mark Livolsi, A.C.E.

American Hustle, Jay Cassidy, A.C.E., Crispin Struthers & Alan Baumgarten, A.C.E. <–predicted winner
August: Osage County, Stephen Mirrione, A.C.E.
Inside Llewyn Davis, Roderick Jaynes
Nebraska, Kevin Tent, A.C.E.
The Wolf of Wall Street, Thelma Schoonmaker, A.C.E. <—spoiler

Despicable Me 2, Gregory Perler, A.C.E
Frozen, Jeff Draheim <—predicted winner
Monsters University, Greg Snyder

20 Feet from Stardom, Douglas Blush, Kevin Klauber & Jason Ze <–predicted winner
Blackfish, Eli Despres
Tim’s Vermeer, Patrick Sheffield

The Ace Eddies
Won Ace | Won Oscar


12 Years a Slave 12 Years a Slave
Captain Phillips Captain Phillips
Gravity Gravity
Her Dallas Buyers Club
Saving Mr. Banks
American Hustle American Hustle
August: Osage County
Inside Llewyn Davis
The Wolf of Wall Street


Argo+ Argo+
Life of Pi* Life of Pi*
Lincoln* Lincoln*
Zero Dark Thirty* Zero Dark Thirty*
Silver Linings Playbook* Silver Linings Playbook*
The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel
Les Miserables*
Moonrise Kingdom


The Descendants The Descendants*
Hugo Hugo*
Moneyball Moneyball*
War Horse The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
The Artist  The Artist+
Young Adult
Midnight in Paris
My Week with Marilyn


The Social Network The Social Network*
The King’s Speech The King’s Speech+
Black Swan Black Swan*
Inception* 127 Hours*
The Fighter The Fighter*
Alice in Wonderland
Easy A
The Kids Are All Right*
Made in Dagenam
Scott Pilgrim vs. The World


The Hurt Locker The Hurt Locker+
Avatar Avatar*
District 9 District 9*
Star Trek Inglourious Basterds*
Up in the Air* Precious+
The Hangover
500 Days of Summer
A Serious Man*
It’s Complicated
Julia & Julia


Slumdog Millionaire Slumdog Millionaire+
Milk Milk*
Benjamin Button Benjamin Button*
Frost/Nixon Frost/Nixon*
The Dark Knight The Dark Knight
In Bruges
Mamma Mia!
Tropic Thunder
Vicky Cristina Barcelona


The Bourne Ultimatum The Bourne Ultimatum
Into the Wild Into the Wild
Michael Clayton* Diving Bell
No Country for Old Men* No Country for Old Men+
There Will Be Blood* There Will Be Blood*
Pirates of the Caribbean: At Worlds End
Sweeney Todd


Babel* Babel*
Casino Royale Children of Men
The Departed* The Departed+
The Queen* Blood Diamond
United 93 United 93
Thank You for Smoking
The Devil Wears Prada
Little Miss Sunshine*
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man’s Chest


Brokeback Mountain* Cinderella Man
The Constant Gardener The Constant Gardener
Crash+ Crash+
Good Night, and Good Luck*
Munich* Munich*
Charlie and The Chocolate Factory
The Family Stone
Pride & Prejudice
Wedding Crashers
Walk the Line Walk the Line


Collateral Collateral
Finding Neverland* Finding Neverland*
Kill Bill Vol. 2
Million Dollar Baby* Million Dollar Baby+
The Aviator * The Aviator*
Eternal Sunshine
The Incredibles
Ray* Ray*


Cold Mountain Cold Mountain
Master and Commander* Master and Commander*
Mystic River* City of God
The Return of the King+ The Return of the King+
Seabiscuit* Seabiscuit*
Bend It Like Beckham
Finding Nemo
Lost in Translation*
Pirates of the Caribbean
School of Rock


The Hours* The Hours*
Gangs of New York* Gangs of New York*
About Schmidt
The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers Lord of the Rings: Two Towers *
Minority Report The Pianist*
About a Boy
My Big Fat Greek Wedding
Chicago+ Chicago+
Punch-Drunk Love


A Beautiful Mind + A Beautiful Mind+
Black Hawk Down Black
Hawk Down
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s
The Lord of the Rings: The
Fellowship of the Ring*
Lord of the Rings*
Memento Memento
Gosford Park *
Monsters, Inc.
Rouge! *
Moulin Rouge*
The Royal Tenenbaums


Billy Elliot Wonder Boys
Cast Away
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon* Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon*
Gladiator+ Gladiator+
Traffic* Traffic*
Film Editing – Musical or Comedy
Almost Famous Almost Famous
Best In Show
Chocolat *
O Brother, Where Art Thou?
Shanghai Noon


American Beauty + American Beauty*
The Insider* The Insider*
The Matrix The Matrix
The Sixth Sense * The Sixth Sense*
The Talented Mr. Ripley The Cider House Rules*
Film Editing – Musical or Comedy
Analyze This
Being John Malkovich
Man On the Moon
Run Lola Run


Out Of Sight Out Of Sight
Shakespeare In Love + Shakespeare In Love+
The Thin Red Line * The Thin Red Line*
Saving Private Ryan * Saving Private Ryan*
The Horse Whisperer Life Is Beautiful*


Air Force One Air Force One
As Good As It Gets * As Good As It Gets*
Good Will Hunting * Good Will Hunting*
L. A. Confidential * L. A. Confidential*
Titanic+ Titanic+


The English Patient+ The English Patient+
Evita Evita
Fargo * Fargo*
Shine * Shine*
The Rock Jerry Maguire*


Braveheart+ Braveheart+
Apollo 13 * Apollo 13*
Crimson Tide Crimson Tide
The Usual Suspects Babe*
Casino Se7en

Comprehensive Chart:

Won ACE | Won Oscar *Nominated for Best Picture

+Won Best Picture

-Won ACE/Oscar for editing but not nominated
for Best Pic

Check out the seven year
streak from 1990 on.

2012: Argo Argo+
2011: The Artis+t/Descendants* The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
2010: The Social Network The Social Network*
2009: The Hurt Locker The Hurt Locker+
2008: Slumdog Millionaire Slumdog Millionaire+
2007: Bourne Ultimatum Bourne
2006: The Departed The Departed+
2005: Crash/Walk the Line Crash+
2004: The Aviator/Ray* The Aviator*
2003: Return of the King/Pirates of the Caribbean Return of the King+
2002: Gangs of New York*/Chicago Chicago+
2001: Black Hawk Down/Moulin Rouge* Black Hawk Down
2000: Gladiator/Almost Famous Traffic*
1999: The
Matrix/Being John Malkovich
The Matrix-
1998: Saving
Private Ryan
Saving Private
1997: Titanic Titanic+
1996: The
English Patient
The English
1995: Braveheart Braveheart+
1994: Forrest
Forrest Gump+
1993: Schindler’s
1991: Unforgiven Unforgiven+
1990: Dances
With Wolves
Dances With
1989: Glory Born on the
Fourth of July*
1988: Mississippi
Who Framed
Roger Rabbit-
1987: The
Last Emperor
Last Emperor+
1986: Platoon Platoon+
1985: Witness Witness*
1984: Amadeus+ The Killing
1983: War
The Right
1982: Gandhi Gandhi+
1981: Raiders
of the Lost Ark
Raiders of
the Lost Ark*
1980: Raging
Raging Bull
1979: All
That Jazz
All That Jazz*
1978: The
Deer Hunter+
Deer Hunter+
1977: The
Turning Point+
Star Wars*
1976: Rocky Rocky+
1975: Jaws Jaws*
1974: The
Longest Yard-
Towering Inferno*
1973: The
1972: Cabaret Cabaret*
1971: Summer
of ’42-
1970: Patton+ Patton+
1969: Hello
1968: Bullit- Bullit-
1967: The
Dirty Dozen-
the Heat of the Night+
1966: Fantastic
Grand Prix-
1965: Sound
of Music
of Music+
1964: Mary
Mary Poppins*
1963: How
the West Was Won
How the West
Was Won*
1962: The
Longest Day
of Arabia+
1961: The Parent Trap West
Side Story+


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  • Bryce Forestieri

    LOOKING lost me after 3 episodes. I ask any kind soul out there to let me know if something ever happens in this show.

  • Enrique

    Gravity have won PGA complete with 12 years slave. Not 1/2.

  • joe

    I think captain phillips, gravity and american hustle

  • joe

    Those movies Will win.

  • Jon C.

    Here’s hoping for a Gravity win, but couldn’t Wolf of Wall Street win as well?

  • alexww


    Agreed, what a disappointing show. It’s like they so badly wanted to present gay people as real people instead of cartoons, as they are on most shows, but went to far and the show is so effing boring. I feel like I know nothing about any of the characters, they are all so 2d and lifeless, that I just don’t care what happens to any of them.

  • Alan D

    The Bourne Ultimatum won Best Editing at both Eddie and Oscar. It was directed by Greengrass whose Captain Phillips is up for the same award this year.

    I think CP is more deserving than Gravity (whose strength lies in the 3D effects). I hope it grabs the Eddie. And WoWS is a masterful virtuoso work by Thelma Schoonmaker so I hope it “upsets” AH.

  • Pierre de Plume

    I’d not be surprised at all if CP wins. You’re right, Sasha – Gravity really needs this one.

  • ObamaWins

    I hope Captain Phillips pulls a win. Gravity will probably win, but I am getting tired of Gravity winning every tech awards, and thr fans’ bragging it has the best pic in the bag. No country for old men didn’t win ACE. It should not be black and white when it comes to Oscar prediction. The winning of The Girl With Dragon Tattoo proves that.

  • Vincent

    “Gravity” is brilliant put together, so it should win. As a fan of “Gravity,” I hope it takes everything because, in my opinion, it was the best, most impressive, most progressive film of 2013. Whether or not it has Best Pic in the bag … I have no idea.

  • ObamaWins

    As long as Gravity does not win Best Pic, it can win all other 9 awards for all I care.

  • Alan D

    ^ 8. Cate *has* to win her Oscar.

  • Jon C

    “As long as Gravity does not win Best Pic, it can win all other 9 awards for all I care.”

    You know that is not likely to happen. If it wins all other 9 awards, it is more than likely to win Best Picture.

  • Bryce Forestieri

    My choices in Film Editing for 2013 would have been

    1. Alfonso Cuaron, Mark Sanger – GRAVITY
    2. Thelma Schoonmaker – THE WOLF OF WALL STREET
    3. Kleber Mendonça Filho, João Maria – NEIGHBORING SOUNDS
    4. A.J. Edwards, K. Fraase, S. Hazen, C. Roldan, M. Yoshikawa – TO THE WONDER
    5. 3. Eric Zumbrinnen, Jeff Buchanan – HER

  • alan

    Gravity is here to stay and people better get used to it but im a gravity fan so yes im very passionate about it. CP is right there too so i hope it doesn’t spoil things.

  • JPNS Viewer

    The Hangover’s win reportedly recognized by Eddie is really a head scratcher. . . . . . . . [The Hangover (D+ or so) seen; mainstream notwithstanding, so disappointing a piece]

    The #Social Network’s victory in both Eddie and Oscar events is well deserved.
    So are #The Hurt Locker, The Bourne Ultimatum [never truly appreciated Matt Damon’s performances though], The Return of the King, #Black Hawk Down, all for Best Editing garnered during both events, to name a few or so.

    Indeed, American Hustle should be in want of this win at least simply to display that its chances at Oscars in some main categories for the time being are ones not to ignore. AH for the win! Please.

    And . . . well, sorry, an important breaking news first — Justin Bieber, TMZ has learned, recently has been accused by his neighbor of egging his home, allegedly causing around $ 20,000 in damage. The D.A. reportedly will make a decision in a week [Well, I reckon if MSNBC (?) could do it, then so could I . . . .]

    Anyway, back to Eddie: can’t wait for the results.

  • Marcus Perriello

    ‘Gravity’ and ‘Captain Phillips’ are the only real contenders in the Drama category. In Comedy, it’s between ‘American Hustle’, and ‘The Wolf of Wall Street.’ But the Oscar is for ‘Gravity’ to lose. And if it loses out to any film, it would have to be ‘Captain Phillips.’ I’m actually interested to see how the ASC awards turn out. Film Editing, and Cinematography have always been a particular interest for me.

    But all the while, people seem to be forgetting one variable in the tech races. And that’s the undeniable presence of Tolkien: ‘The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug.’ If any film could upset ‘Gravity’ in the tech categories, particularly Best Visual Effects, it would be DOS. We all know the Academy LOVES the world of MIddle-Earth and the writings of J.R.R. Tolkien, and obviously, how Peter Jackson and his creative team have interpreted his works. While I’m not really giving much of a chance for DOS to win anything, there’s always that remote possibility it could happen.

  • Al Robinson

    My picks for Best Editing

    All Is Lost
    Inside Llewyn Davis
    The Wolf of Wall Street

  • Al Robinson

    At this point, my heart for the Oscar for Best Picture goes to Gravity. My favorite movie of the year is The Wolf of Wall Street, but I don’t think it has a realistic chance, so in other words: GO GRAVITY!!!

  • Bob Burns

    Llewyn avis had lovely edits, but I would give it to Thelma for power.

  • Bob Burns

    Warner will deliver for Gravity.

    Bullock’s campaign, including her comments, are about the film. Very Warner…. clear-eyed. Dench is #2, she has a hook.

  • Al Robinson

    I guess I’ll post the link in this thread, since it’s kind of about “Best Picture”.

    ABC is having a Best Picture bracket challenge. I just stumbled upon it. Pretty cool. 🙂


  • Bradley

    I’d shit my pants if 12 Years won, if only because Joe is one of my favourite people in the entire world.

  • ABC is having a Best Picture bracket challenge. I just stumbled upon it. Pretty cool. 🙂


    The only thing worse than having AMPAS pick Best Picture is letting Internet populism pick BP. Hurt Locker, No Country, Annie Hall, Schindler’s List, The Apartment, Marty, On the Waterfront, and All About Eve were all eliminated in Round 1. #facepalm

  • Al Robinson


    That is SO TRUE!! I can just see Marlon Brando saying “I coulda been a contender”. Funny. 🙂

  • keifer

    These were my favorite films containing outstanding film editing this year (MY WINNER IS IN ALL CAPS).

    August: Osage County – Stephen Mirrione
    The Family – Julien Rey
    The Great Beauty – Cristiano Travaglioli
    The Great Gatsby – Jason Ballantine, Jonathan Redmond, Matt Villa

    Unfortunately, AMPAS editors branch has failed to nominate ANY of my choices this year. One of the reasons I like this site so very much is that bloggers can shed light on film work that AMPAS is stupidly ignoring.

  • Al Robinson

    Hell, more like “I shoulda been a contender”. (In having should have made at least the second round).

  • Claudiu Dobre

    “ABC is having a Best Picture bracket challenge. I just stumbled upon it. Pretty cool. 🙂

    I’m not gonna lie, I love some of those 1st round upsets (almost all of them, really – and even though, for instance, I don’t necessarily AGREE that Terms is better than Amadeus, the thought that it’s liked well enough to beat such a strong winner is awesome to me), and I didn’t even vote… 🙂

    My favorite has to be Slumdog Millionaire beating No Country for Old Men, followed by All the King’s Men beating All About Eve and The Deer Hunter beating Annie Hall! I think all 3 losers there are heavily overrated, while I love all 3 of their vanquishers. And at least Schindler’s List lost to another favorite of mine…

  • Claudiu Dobre

    And I don’t agree with From Here to Eternity over On the Waterfront – I love neither, but FHTE I just don’t like at all.

  • Hawkeye

    Terms of Endearment beat out Amadeus. From Here to Eternity beat out On the Waterfront. Dances with Wolves beat out Driving Miss Daisy. Forrest Gump beat out Schindler’s List. I’m convinced that people voting for this thing have never seen these films.

    Anyways, I completely agree with Sasha’s picks. Gravity, American Hustle, Frozen, and 20 Feet to Stardom seem like the obvious winners here. I would say that Wolf is a threat, but it was in desperate need of additional editing, which will probably hurt it. Phillips could be a threat for Drama, but it will be next to impossible to overcome Gravity.

  • Zach

    Why is Dallas Buyers Club nominated for the Oscar?

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