Peter Jackson has opted out of calling the Hobbit finale The Hobbit: There and Back Again to Battle of Five Armies. Jackson said:

β€œWhen we did the premiere trip late last year, I had a quiet conversation with the studio about the idea of revisiting the title. We decided to keep an open mind until a cut of the film was ready to look at. We reached that point last week, and after viewing the movie, we all agreed there is now one title that feels completely appropriate.”Β 

I am imagining what the critics would have made of the original title…

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  • Bob Burns

    The Hobbit is a lovely book, chock full of intelligent English prose. Please don’t let this hash prevent you from reading and enjoying it.

    The LotR films were superb, full of poetry. These things are a joke. The worst line in the LotR films was “Looks like meat’s back on the menu, boys!” It was startlingly bad in the midst of so much intelligence. These things are almost entirely at that low level. What a waste of an opportunity.

  • The Hobbit is a lovely book, chock full of intelligent English prose. Please don’t let this hash prevent you from reading and enjoying it.

    I’m really looking forward to the Editor’s Cut of The Hobbit.

  • Bryce Forestieri

    “Hey everyone, in case you haven’t realized it, this one is where the shit goes down, no more boring stuff. Promise. Give us your money.”

    I have enjoyed both hobbit films at the multiplex and will surely check this one out, but I will probably never watch them again. Don’t mean no disrespect though.

  • Al Robinson

    I’m okay with how Peter Jackson did An Unusual Journey and The Desolation of Smaug. I thought they were both really enjoyable films, but I think the entire The Hobbit story could have been told in 2 parts:

    1. Before the Dragon
    2. Dragon

    But, with that said, I will certainly enjoy the 3rd and final film in the trilogy.

  • [Al, I’m going to change “Peter Travers” in your comment to “Peter Jackson” unless you’re leaking some revelations that the rest us don’t know about]

  • Al Robinson

    Oh wow!! Did I write Peter Travers instead of Peter Jackson?? Ooops!! That’s a brain-fart and a half. Thanks Ryan for fixing that. πŸ™‚

  • Al Robinson

    I’m sure some people would have liked it better HAD Peter Travers directed it instead. πŸ˜‰

  • Aaron B

    I enjoy the first two films, but this movie is more than likely going to be the best I think. The material it covers is much more dark and in line with the original trilogy.

  • Bryce Forestieri


  • Al Robinson

    So far I’d score the first two a 4 out of 5. But, seeing how the 2nd one ended, I think The Battle of the Five Armies will be similar to The Bourne Ultimatum, where it’s just action filled throughout.

    I think (or at least I am hoping) that I’ll give the 3rd one a full 5 out of 5.

  • The Hobbit: Are We There Yet?

    Uncomfortable with The Hobbit: Battle of Five Armies?
    Blame David Fincher. He started all this with The Social Network: Battle of Two Armies.

  • Al Robinson

    “The Hobbit: Are We There Yet?”

    Does Ice Cube play Smaug, the dragon? πŸ˜‰

  • Kane

    Aaaahahaaaa Ryan you made a funny πŸ˜‰

  • joe

    I actually like the new title. The battle of the five armies is the central point of the film.

  • Jesus Alonso

    I am extremely tempted of re-editing The Hobbitt films trimming them down to just 30 minutes each, to prove the whole thing could have been JUST a 90 minutes feature length and that the travesty we’re assisting to is just another case of “milking the cow”… instead of doing something authentically smart about it and do what WB is doing with Harry Potter: EXPLORING that Universe, beyond the original franchise.

    I have to say that The Hobbit 1 & 2 are two of the WORST film “adaptations” I’ve ever seen: unnecessarily long, repetitive, with boring action sequences, total lack of emotional investment on the characters (specially on the new ones, even Gandalf becomes boring, despite McKellen’s efforts)… the fact the films are making so much money is further proof of our Pavlovian society, in which we’re just trained to go with the flow.

  • I like Al’s suggestion.

    The Hobbit: Before the Dragon
    The Hobbit: Dragon
    The Hobbit: After the Dragon

    The Hobbit: Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon

  • Kelly

    What? Each army doesn’t get a movie?

    The Hobbit: The Battle of Five Armies: First Army
    The Hobbit: The Battle of Five Armies: Second Army
    The Hobbit: The Battle of Five Armies: Third Army
    The Hobbit: The Battle of Five Armies: Fourth Army
    The Hobbit: The Battle of Five Armies: Fifth Army

  • Kelly

    Why wasn’t the whole thing just:

    The Hobbit: There
    The Hobbit: Back Again


  • steve50

    You could even get way with a hyphen: Drag-on

  • Alternative:
    The Hobbit: Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon

    Alternative 2:
    The Hobbit: Otter Fili Bottom Kili

  • Bryce Forestieri

    OT: Was finally able to see James Gray’s THE IMMIGRANT. Let me rephrase. I was somehow able to get through James Gray’s THE IMMIGRANT. Excruciatingly boring. It takes A LOT to bore me like this film did. Ballpark? we’re talking Ackerman/Angelopoulos lethargic. James Gray comes across as very educated, well versed in cinema history, and hell by all indications it seems like he has some sort of good taste, but he has no talent whatsoever as an actual filmmaker. He should instead be teaching. I love listening to him. Having said all this I do like THE YARDS, I think he did tap into something while making that film and the result is damn engrossing, unfortunately that’s what one out of six films? Who am I to say if he was onto something different while making that film, but he should try it again. This has to be a career low for Darius Khondji — look is just dreadful. I’m just glad it ended.

  • Bryce Forestieri

    Here’s the official BOYHOOD trailer. Now I implore you,

  • Marcus Perriello

    ‘Battle of Five Armies’ almost sounds like a ‘Planet of the Apes’ sequel. The reason I won’t give Peter Jackson any grief on this is because the book was officially entitled ‘The Hobbit’, and nothing else. This gives Jackson a little more freedom with titles, given that he has split the book into three parts. I think we should bear in mind that Peter Jackson and his crew have made each film of their respective trilogies better and better as they went along. So, don’t be premature in judging the third film just because he changed the title. Knowing Peter Jackson and he affinity for Tolkien, I’m sure the third movie will be flat-out awesome!

  • Al Robinson

    Bryce, I only have 1 B-word, and you used it.

    To me, bad movies that are expected to be bad, really aren’t that bad. But, when a movie is boring, that’s when I really have a problem. It’s dissapointing when I’m looking forward to a movie, and I find myself thinking about other stuff, because the movie can’t hold my attention.

  • joe

    New Oscar predictions
    Big eyes
    Gone girl
    The grand Budapest hotel
    The hobbit; bofa
    Inherent vice
    Into the woods

    Wes Anderson the grand Budapest hotel
    Paul Thomas Anderson inherent vice
    David fincher gone girl*
    Bennett miller foxcatcher
    Christopher Nolan for interstellar

    Chadwick boseman get on up
    Steve carrell foxcatcher*
    Matthew mcgoughaney interstellar
    Jack O’Connell unbroken
    Joaquin Phoenix inherent vice

    Amy Adams big eyes
    Emily blunt into the woods
    Nicole Kidman grace of Monaco*
    Rosemund pike gone girl
    Reese Witherspoon wild

    Supporting actor
    Josh brolin inherent vice
    Neil Patrick Harris gone girl
    Ian McKellen the hobbit: bofa
    Edward Norton birdman*
    Mark ruffalo foxcatcher

    Supporting actress
    Viola Davis get on up*
    Anna Kendrick into the woods
    Julianne Moore map to the stars
    Octavia Spencer get on up
    Noami watts birdman

    Adapted screenplay
    Gone girl*
    The hobbit: bofa
    Inherent vice

    Original screenplay
    Big eyes
    Magic in the moonlight
    Mr. Turner

    Production design
    The grand Budapest hotel
    Into the woods

    Costume design
    Big eyes
    The grand budapest hotel
    Inherent vice

    Exodus: Gods and kings
    The imitation game
    Inherent vice

    Film editing
    Gone girl*
    The grand Budapest hotel
    The hobbit: bofa

    Original score
    Alexandre desplat unbroken*
    Danny elfman big eyes
    Johnny greenwood inherent vice
    Howard shore the hobbit: bofa
    Hans zimmer interstellar

    Original song
    Dumb and dumber to
    Into the woods
    Muppets most wanted*

    The hobbit: bofa*

    Animated feature
    Big hero 6
    The book of life
    The boy in the cuckoo nest
    How to train your dragon 2*

    Documentary feature
    Deep sea challenge 3D
    God’s pocket
    Rich hill*
    The unknown known

    Sound editing
    Big hero 6
    Captain america: the winter soldier
    Gone girl*

    Sound mixing
    Big hero 6*
    The grand Budapest hotel
    The hobbit: bofa
    Inherent vice

    Visual effects
    Big eyes
    Guardians of the galaxy
    The hobbit: bofa*

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    The Hobbit: 269 pages in 540 minutes

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