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Reading the Tea Leaves

Posted by Sasha Stone On October - 29 - 2009

TCM’s Robert Osborne gets into the prediction game with the latest assemblage by Tom O’Neil over at The Envelope. You can click over to see the full list, but this is, more or less, how it shook down:

Also participating in the our pundit panel are Thelma Adams (Us Weekly), Erik Davis (AOL Cinematical), Scott Feinberg (AndTheWinnerIs), Paul Gaita (The Circuit, The Envelope), Pete Hammond (Notes on a Season, The Envelope), Elena Howe (The Envelope), Dave Karger (Entertainment Weekly), Kevin Lewin (World Entertainment News Network), Steve Pond (TheWrap), Richard Rushfield (Gawker), Peter Travers (Rolling Stone), Jeff Wells (Hollywood-Elsewhere) and Susan Wloszczyna (USA Today).

Only “The Hurt Locker” and “Invictus” get backing from all 16 sages. Scoring 15 is “Precious” (Lumenick doesn’t pick it) and “Up in the Air” (Lewin is a hold-out). Two gurus spurn “Up” (Feinberg and me) and three don’t back “Nine” (Gaita, Pond and Wloszczyna).

Missing from the “Avatar” bandwagon are Hammond and Wells. Pond and Travers are among the five gurus who don’t buy that “The Lovely Bones” will make it. And there’s less support for “An Education” than I thought there’d be (Karger and Hammond don’t think it will make the grade).

“THE HURT LOCKER” (16) — Adams, Davis, Feinberg, Gaita, Hammond, Howe, Karger, Lewin, Lumenick, O’Neil, Osborne, Pond, Rushfield, Travers, Wells, Wloszczyna

“INVICTUS” (16) — Adams, Davis, Feinberg, Gaita, Karger, Hammond, Howe, Lewin, Lumenick, O’Neil, Osborne, Pond, Rushfield, Travers, Wells, Wloszczyna

“PRECIOUS” (15) — Adams, Davis, Feinberg, Gaita, Hammond, Howe, Karger, Lewin, O’Neil, Osborne, Pond, Rushfield, Travers, Wells, Wloszczyna

“UP IN THE AIR” (15) — Adams, Davis, Feinberg, Gaita, Hammond, Howe, Karger, Lumenick, O’Neil, Osborne, Pond, Rushfield, Travers, Wells, Wloszczyna

“UP” (14) — Adams, Davis, Gaita, Hammond, Howe, Karger, Lewin, Lumenick, Osborne, Pond, Rushfield, Travers, Wells, Wloszczyna

“NINE” (13) — Adams, Davis, Feinberg, Hammond, Howe, Karger, Lewin, Lumenick, O’Neil, Osborne, Rushfield, Travers, Wells

“THE LOVELY BONES” (11) — Adams, Davis, Feinberg, Gaita, Hammond, Howe, Karger, Lewin, Lumenick, O’Neil, Wloszczyna

“AVATAR” (10) — Adams, Davis, Feinberg, Gaita, Karger, Lumenick, O’Neil, Pond, Travers, Wloszczyna

“AN EDUCATION” (10) — Adams, Feinberg, Gaita, Howe, Osborne, Pond, Rushfield, Travers, Wells, Wloszczyna

I feel it is my duty to remind everyone that these are blind guesses, the way one might throw down some green at the Kentucky Derby, lay it all on the line for some good ink and a stellar track record.   Movies are, quite simply, magic.  Everyone involved hopes that all of them will be the best things ever made, but half of the time, the results don’t match either the hype or the hope.    At this stage in the game, you can’t really talk about who’s “ahead,” but rather, how perceptions are shifting.  I suppose this is what ultimately drives the stock market, right?  Perception?  So maybe if they do it long enough there could end up being some “there” there, but for now, it is a game.  A fun game, but a game nonetheless.

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    41 Responses for "Reading the Tea Leaves"

    1. Sertan October 29th, 2009 at 10:00 pm 1

      Hurt Locker was good. but was it the best of all? That I dont know!

    2. guany October 29th, 2009 at 10:04 pm 2

      I love Robert Osborne, but Away We Go? Really?

      And who else but Lumenick would predict 2012 over Precious….

    3. The Natural October 29th, 2009 at 10:24 pm 3

      Definitely agree Sertan. It’ll be lucky to make my Top 20 of the year. And the more time has passed the greater it has faded from my mind.

    4. Flapp October 29th, 2009 at 10:57 pm 4

      Yes, “Away We Go”.

      I agree Osborne.

    5. dlen October 29th, 2009 at 11:03 pm 5

      Interesting that Travers picks District 9 but not Wild Things, which he gave 4 stars. Obviously he’s picking more with his head than his heart.

      And Hammond seems to have a hard-on for The Young Victoria, or at least Emily Blunt. There is nothing special about this film or performance.

      2012? I’m seeing this on Monday so will withhold judgement but surely HP6, Star Trek, D9 and WTWTA have better shots than this?

    6. Ryan Adams October 29th, 2009 at 11:13 pm 6

      “…for now, it is a game. A fun game, but a game nonetheless.”

      Is it really even very fun? Then what’s wrong with me? Why does it make me so sad?
      :?

      If those are our 10 nominees then I’m already bored out of my mind. That’s why I’m happy to say I don’t think those will be the 10. Not a chance.

      For me what’s more fun than seeing the sheep herd “baaa-baaa” in unison, is looking at where their opinions diverge. I’m much more excited about the possibility that we might see something from #’s 11-20 show up among the nominees.

      “THE ROAD” (6)
      “A SERIOUS MAN” (5)
      “A SINGLE MAN” (my own addition)
      “BRIGHT STAR” (3)
      “DISTRICT 9″ (2)
      “STAR TREK” (2)
      “WHERE THE WILD THINGS ARE” (2)
      “AWAY WE GO” (1)
      “BROTHERS” (1)
      “THE INFORMANT!” (1)
      “JULIE & JULIA” (1)
      “MOON” (1)

      But you know what’s really pathetically depressing about these pundittoheads?

      The fact that they don’t think there’s a single film from anywhere else in the world than can possibly stand a better chance at a BP nomination than Julie & Julia.

    7. OscarMovieBuff84 October 29th, 2009 at 11:16 pm 7

      An Education is good, carried by Mulligan’s performance but ultimately plays soft & not memorable like Hurt Locker, Up in the Air, Precious and how I think Lovely Bones & A Single Man would. With Avatar being a big ? mark.

    8. j October 29th, 2009 at 11:28 pm 8

      Those are the 9 I would expect along with A Serious Man, which I’m surprised is not higher. If the Academy wants to nominate Mortensen, and if they want to reward Waltz, I suppose it sort of makes sense for them to be higher (Basterds’ inferior reviews to Serious balance its higher box office.), especially since the main award contender for Serious would be Coens who were plenty awarded very recently. Though I’m hoping they feel more strongly about wanting to nominate Cornish…

      And a bit disappointed that A Single Man isn’t there, ‘cept with Ryan (whoo). It’s currently my personal favorite to win (sight unseen). Well if it does blow up like crazy, then it will have the actual out-of-nowhere underdog thing going for it…unlike, say, the indies this year from veteran filmmakers which have been getting huge buzz for at least half a year.

      It’s interesting, though, because even those who put Up over other movies as a nominee probable probably think it would have a less likely chance to win than Nine, Bones, Avatar, & Education.

    9. Bill October 30th, 2009 at 12:03 am 9

      basterds just has to make it in, or years from now people will mock that choice, an education will be forgetten fairly fast, and a serious man is better then the hurt locker imo, the rest look good, but basterds shouldnt be missing, and the road is still waiting to explode, dont underestimate the weinsteins guys, inglorious saved their asses financially and they love queintin, and huge box office, theyll do their best to thank him

    10. ladylurks October 30th, 2009 at 1:26 am 10

      Not to ruin anyone’s day, but BFCA just gave Michael Jackson’s This Is It a score of 91.

      Since it’s not eligible in the Documentary category, O’Neil has been talking it up as a possible Best Picture candidate. Should we be frightened?

    11. j October 30th, 2009 at 1:51 am 11

      That’s below the likes of Anvil, Star Trek, 500 Days, & Food. I’m going with no. In my somewhat complicated formula, This is It on MC gets 2 stars (60’s with 1 100, 5 88-91, and 80% of reviews below that) and on RT 3 stars. So overall aggregate from the aggregates: 3.0 stars. Far from explosive. I mean, unless the Academy has tons of MJ fans who want to vote with their fanboy hearts. Looks like the box office won’t be supahuge…that might change.

      Also, of the populist possibilities, it feels like Star Trek really should have a leg up on Wild Things/District in both acclaim & money. It also has the advantage in both cases over Basterds, but Basterds has Waltz as well…

    12. James (Cinemaniac86) October 30th, 2009 at 2:46 am 12

      I think both “Men” need to be considered more strongly: That is to say “A Single Man” and “A Serious Man”, which I feel are both underestimated by this bunch. ASM, in particular, seems like the most fascinating underdog waiting in the wings. The trailer is perfection; and I suspect Firth’s performance may be the “one” this year. (Especially because I just cannot see Freeman or Clooney winning, since it would mean 3 consecutive years of repeat winners–unprecedented!) I also think “(500) Days of Summer” is being slightly underestimated, though I am beginning to edge it out of my predictions. Fox Searchlight has an impeccable track record, but this is not their year. “(500)” is its best shot by far, butttt….I’m being swayed to say it’s a screenplay-only campaign.

    13. DBibby October 30th, 2009 at 3:55 am 13

      I’m really disappointed that no-one picked A Single Man (apart from Ryan, j and James, of course!). It’s my favourite film of the year, both in terms of craft and heart. A beautiful beautiful film. I think a win is a real longshot, but with Colin being sensational and a clear frontrunner for best actor I would have expected a bit more support.

    14. Jeff L. Shannon October 30th, 2009 at 4:07 am 14

      This was tremendous! Given I’m a huge TCM-ITE! & Mr. 0sborne-(l932-) as an author as well, he literally wrote the book.

      Matter of fact his “80 years of OSCAR” is what I call “My Movie Bible!”-(though a very hefty $75.00)

      Out of my 30yr old movie-library of 180 books I own to date-(started as a teenager) & this is the first time I think he’s thrown his fedora in on forecasting the nominees. & among the best at my fav. annual game is Mr. Tom 0′neil & “EW Magazine”

      Sadly the late: Gene Siskel-(l946-l999) & Joel Siegel, also already gone!
      were the the finest!

      Of Mr. 0sborne’s BP picks I only split with 1-(”Away We Go” in “L. Bones” projected slot)
      He’s really goin’ out on a limb here though?

      & the last time I recall him predicting the OSCARS was on the network for 2000.
      At any rate, GREAT GOIN’ & HOPE HE HANGS AROUND FOR THE OTHER CATEGORIES TOO

      Thanks

    15. Jeff L. Shannon October 30th, 2009 at 4:18 am 15

      To Ryan, don’t quite understand what you mean though?

      I do know-(plus many others I know)
      & think it’s a ridiculous idea for the AMPAS to have 10 BP contenders again though!
      As most know on here the last time there was ten was 1943 & the year of the legendary classic: *”Casablanca”
      At the height of Hollywoods Golden Age & Studio-System.
      & this era certainly is not in the same league

    16. Ryan Adams October 30th, 2009 at 5:09 am 16

      Jeff, I mean that it’s highly unlikely that all 10 films considered the best bets on this straw poll will survive to become the 10 nominees. I mean, obviously, right? If it were that easy to guess what AMPAS intended to do, then why even bother following the race for the next 4 months.

      I’m saying that I hope this list of 10 from GoldDerby is only about half right. I wouldn’t mind seeing 5 of those titles drop out and select 3 or 4 more interesting movies from the second tier. Then I’d like to see at least one international film included, so the collection of nominees don’t look so damn narrow-minded and jingoistic. I’m saying it’s embarrassing that none of these experts can envision any foreign language films from the entire planet being a better choice than ‘Up.’

      I’m saying that I really hope there’s another movie that nobody from the GoldDerby poll selected at all. A Single Man, (500) Days of Summer, In the Loop, or who knows, maybe The Story of Anvil.

      In order for that to happen, one or two of these unseen movies topping everybody’s wish list are going to need to fail. But isn’t that inevitable? 3 weeks ago, Amelia was thumbtacked to everybody’s cork board like a blue ribbon, and people were tearing their hair out worrying that Hillary Swank was poised to win a third Oscar.

      All I’m sayiing, Jeff, is that if this GoldDerby top 10 list is what we’re stuck with, then will somebody please wake me up in February? I thought the point of having twice as many BP nominees was to shake things up a bit — not to be twice as predictable.

    17. Ryan Adams October 30th, 2009 at 5:23 am 17

      “As most know on here the last time there was ten was 1943 & the year of the legendary classic: *”Casablanca” At the height of Hollywoods Golden Age & Studio-System.”

      * Casablanca – Warner Bros. – Hal B. Wallis
      * For Whom the Bell Tolls – Sam Wood
      * Heaven Can Wait – Ernst Lubitsch
      * The Human Comedy – Clarence Brown
      * In Which We Serve – Noel Coward
      * Madame Curie – Sidney Franklin
      * The More the Merrier – George Stevens
      * The Ox-Bow Incident – Lamar Trotti
      * The Song of Bernadette – William Perlberg
      * Watch on the Rhine – Hal B. Wallis

      If we don’t have any nominees this year better than The More the Merrier, The Human Comedy or even godawful “classics” like The Song of Bernadette or For Whom the Bells Toll then I’m ready to go stand before The Death Panel. There are only 5 BP nominees from 1943 I’d ever watch again. I think we can easily do as well this year.

      [don't mean to bristle up two comments in a row, Jeff. I'm just feeling frustrated with all the safe bets and feeling defensive about a lot of excellent movies that are getting short shrift.]

    18. bambi October 30th, 2009 at 6:15 am 18

      I see 9 movies. Wouldn`t it be awesome if the 10th that isn`t on the list wins? Whatever it is (preferably IB).

      And lmao @ the guy who picked 2012. Roland Emmerich movie with a plane outrunning natural disasters nominated for a BP when really good genre stuff couldn`t make it (TDK, PoA)? LOLz! Would be hilarious. Seriously, there`s nothing about 2012 that screams best anything but effects and tons of Razzies.

    19. dan October 30th, 2009 at 6:26 am 19

      It’s entirely plausible that these 10 are the 10 for Best Pic but thats not whats important. The 5 for Best Director is the race for Best Picture.

      Bigelow for Hurt Locker is IN
      Marshall for NINE is IN
      Eastwood for Invictus is IN

      2 slots remain:
      Reitman, Jackson, and Cameron are fighting for the final 2.
      It all depends on the reviews for Avatar. If it has really good reviews, Cameron will get in. If its average, Jackson will get in.
      I think Reitman will schmooze his way in.

      The International Avatar trailer while giving away almost the entire plot, looked okay but underwhelming.

      Also-I’m not a believer/understanding in all the Precious hype. Wasn’t that good.

    20. John October 30th, 2009 at 6:44 am 20

      Regarding BFCA’s 91 for THIS IS IT.

      I’m ecstatic. Saw it yesterday with some friends in a decently-filled theater. We all thought it was fantastic and inherently intriguing to watch every step and hear ever word that Michael uttered in these rehearsals. I just got a feelng of who Michael Jackson WAS for the first time (whereas, I’d always just heard songs on the radio, music videos, sound bytes, & Access Hollywood crap). The documentary doesn’t delve at all into his complex mind/life … just the musical preparation for the concert that never was to be.

    21. alexander October 30th, 2009 at 8:29 am 21

      It’s a pity how two subtle and excellents films like Away we go or Two lovers are not considered among the best ones of the year, although i bet for sure both of them won’t be among the Oscar ten

    22. KGB October 30th, 2009 at 9:26 am 22

      (straps target squarely on back)
      Personally, Away We Go is the only film I’ve seen thus far, that has stayed with me. Not saying it’s “golden” but it certainly is worth consideration. That said, I still have a lot of sitting in the dark to catch up on.
      Can’t wait!

    23. Garrett October 30th, 2009 at 10:00 am 23

      I am so excited Oscar Season is back!

    24. bambi October 30th, 2009 at 10:30 am 24

      #19 “The 5 for Best Director is the race for Best Picture.”

      Amen! I`m really not interested in those 5 filler movies that AMPAS hope will put butts in the seats for their boring and outdated show. What matters are movies that have a shot at a win and that`s only the BP/BD combos. So lets see…

      # 19 “Bigelow for Hurt Locker is IN
      Marshall for NINE is IN
      Eastwood for Invictus is IN”
      2 slots remain:
      Reitman, Jackson, and Cameron are fighting for the final 2.
      I think Reitman will schmooze his way in.”

      Have to disagree. K-Big and Reitman have an on-going buzz that isn`t dying down. IMO, Reitman is a mortal lock together with K-Big. I think so because their movies have been seen and the buzz is tremendous. I honestly don`t see any of remaining 4 to be seen (LB, Avatar, Nine and Invictus) to do unreparable damage to these 2 and Precious. They may fight among themselves and hurt shakier contenders like Education (mostly Mulligan buzz), Bright Star (mostly Cornish buzz) and The Road (mostly Mortensen buzz), but UITA, HL and Presh are locked and loaded. And there are also A Single Man and A Serious Man with great buzz in all major categories.

      I respect people who understand Oscar politics but I don`t buy the “Invictus is in/will win because it`s the Clint” argument. And right now, some unseen movies are getting better predictions than seen and raved ones on big names alone. Which still doesn`t mean big names will deliver or surpass the seen stuff. And what do we really know about these movies to give directors advantage over, lets say, Reitman outside of “he`s The Clint/Cameron/Jackson/”?

      LB – Ryan says the script has potential for the movie to be the thing of beauty. Ryan was also right on the money that Funny People script was not strong. Trailer was a mixed bag, however, spelling the whole plot out and leaving no surprises save for Tucci`s physical transformation (count him as a lock in BSA, he`ll be talked about and already is for J&J).

      Avatar – too much talk about technical revolution (and crazy budget) and too much depends on boxoffice take that must be out of this world or forget about BP even with all-red Tomatometer score.

      Invictus – Ryan says the script is Defeatus. or something. Trailer looks generic to me but you guys feel the victory from it so what do I know? Either way, Ryan was right about Funny Peepz script and if this thing has shakey one than how is it going to suddenly steal the buzz built the year round for my Top 3 mortal locks?

      Nine – there were screening reviews but none by actual critics. Biggest deal is star-studded cast. But while Chicago was hailed for making big screen musicals profitable again(read:the leader, trend-setter), Nine is just the follower.

    25. Marshall October 30th, 2009 at 11:00 am 25

      Has the stock of “A Single Man” fallen quite a bit recently? I didn’t see anyone predicting it … and they predicted some weird stuff.

    26. John October 30th, 2009 at 11:01 am 26

      Hand me the target, too, then. I LOVED ‘Away We Go’. And I agree, I’m not saying it’s incredible. It has just stayed with me.

    27. James (Cinemaniac86) October 30th, 2009 at 11:50 am 27

      Bambi, your perspective is so tremendously refreshing, and not just because it parallels much of my own.

      *First of all, could not agree more regarding “Invictus”. I think at best, it’ll be this year’s perennial biopic–the “Frost/Nixon” of 2009 (although I quite liked that, surprisingly): It may get nominated everywhere out of respect or political affectations, but it’s a nom-only type of film. But to me, it’s just a cheesy sports movie masquerading as an apartheid biopic. And my response? DIAF. Freeman looks unconvincing, and I cannot see how anyone can call him for the WIN. (Again, I bring up my aforementioned point: Three consecutive years of repeat Best Actor winners just doesn’t seem likely.) Damon actually looks stronger, but is in a more thankless role (Michael Sheen, James McAvoy–the latter particularly good, but the character flawed.) So, I dunno. I’m glad to know that Ryan is skeptical. I think one should predict based on what they foresee, not what they can’t see now. Last year proved that Eastwood is not the Zeus of Oscars so many claimed, and thank God for that. I may continue to like him again. Otherwise, he’s back to being Clunt. Naturally, though, my pessimism remains as strong as last year, but I’m just as dubious as well. It panders to them and it might score with them, but something about it just doesn’t feel very awardsy. Ugh, Idk what to think anymore with his shlock.

      Now, for less controversial matter (lolz):

      *I, too, really enjoyed/loved “Away We Go”. A second viewing might be required, as I was high on a first date when I saw it. But if for nothing else, Rudolph/Krasinski were a pairing of PERFECTION. The chemistry was impeccable. Loved it. It’s really nice to express this year, too, since many at InContention are too snotty to appreciate this (not Tapley/Lodge, I mean the commenters).

      *I agree that it’s foolish to consider Marshall and Eastwood locks. Eastwood is likely; Marshall I’m not so sure. Bigelow, Daniels, and Reitman feel like stronger contenders. And I’d say it’s possible that AMPAS could simply love “An Education”, nominate Scherfig to bolster the “year of female directors” stigma, and ultimately strengthen the sentiment behind a potential Bigelow win (Pleasepleasepleaseplease, you can even nominate “Invictus”, I don’t care, just let this woman be the first winner with a vag!).

      *I don’t think the stock of “A Single Man” has fallen, Marshall. I don’t think it’s being put on the proper tier to begin with just yet. But if Firth’s performance is the possible juggernaut that I think it could be, the film’s stock will, essentially, ejaculate into the Top 10. And the gay-loving Academy will jizz its liberal load once more (yay). From that incredible trailer alone, echoing the brilliance of the “Little Children” trailer 3 years ago which might’ve gotten in w/ 10 slots (that’s what she said), speaks loudly regarding the potential it has. It could be the breakout of this year. I dunno, to me, it just fits. It has that visually stunning aura that might resonate with voters.

    28. Ryan Adams October 30th, 2009 at 12:26 pm 28

      I thoroughly enjoyed Away We Go. Maya Rudolph was amazing. and there were a half dozen scene-stealing supporting roles that took me completely by surprise. The whole movie has a sense of unexpected freshness, and makes most other drivel that pass for romantic comedy these day look like Doris Day relics. So great to see writers and a director who get the gentle humor of real life without having to fabricate some “high-concept” situation to create sparks.

    29. James (Cinemaniac86) October 30th, 2009 at 12:35 pm 29

      I couldn’t agree more!

      I firmly hope (and can see the possibility) that Rudolph will score a Golden Globe nomination for her role. The Musical/Comedy Actress category sucks, in essence. (Even more so if Deschanel is not considered a lead….) Including Deschanel, Streep (possibly x2), and Cotillard (who will certainly be lead here, I think), then Rudolph could easily take that last slot. And if “It’s Complicated” is blah, which wouldn’t surprise me in the least, I guess…Page for spot #5? God, I hope it’s not Zellweger or Bullock….

      It would help if Kendrick or Farmiga were considered lead, I guess–probably Kendrick? We shall see. HFPA is tricky.

    30. Ryan Adams October 30th, 2009 at 2:13 pm 30

      “Invictus – Ryan says the script is Defeatus. or something.”

      Your faith in my street corner rants is humbling, bambi, but Invictus is one script I’m leaving unhammered, for now. I wrote in another topics last night:

      I haven’t said anything about the script for Invictus, Marshall. The draft I have is dated 2007 and until I can see some clips to know if the movie matches up with what I’ve read then it wouldn’t be right to say what I think… In another topic we were talking about the script for Hereafter, and the version I’ve read looks like near final draft.

      All I can say with certainty is that there’s a potent line from the trailer that appears verbatim on page 1 of the script. When we see another trailer or some clips then I’ll have a better idea of how much the script I’ve seen has evolved. This one will be tough for me judge though, because it’s not really my kind of movie. So I have more trouble visualizing what I’m reading in the script for Invictus than with most other screenplays I can see play out inside my head.

      I can say that it’s a quality script, with plenty of momentus, er, moments. I mean that in a good way. Damon’s role is not nearly as talky as Freeman’s but you’d expect that and it feels right that Francois Pienaar would be a man of few words. It’s still plenty meaty enough for Freeman and Damon to be considered co-leads, but we know how the categories are going to shake out. There are abundant lump-in-the-throat moments and the script hits all the right beats to be considered a worthy candidate for a screenplay nomination. I’m the wrong kind of guy to get choked up over a rugby game, but I can see how it’s constructed to rouse maximum rah-rah’s to emphasize the male bearhug factor.

      As for the scripts you point out that I had a bad feeling about — it’s not hard to spot a stinker. The script for Invictus is admirable. For me, maybe a bit too solo-trumpet noble, but nobody does noble like Morgan Freeman.

    31. j October 30th, 2009 at 3:18 pm 31

      Ouch. I’m taking Latin and this butchering of the language hurts my brain. -Us is the masculine nominative (subject) ending for adjectives, or else the same but the adjective being substantively.

      Scriptus (which isn’t used above) is a word though, meaning “written”…or possibly “the written man” which doesn’t make too much sense. Yeah…my brain’s still a bit fried from studying for my Latin exam.

    32. Vince October 30th, 2009 at 6:41 pm 32

      Unfortunately Nine will get automatic haters, 1) Because some people just don’t like musical’s 2) for being overrated because the cast is full of Oscar winners and they didn’t live up to the hype. But I’m not even a fan of musical’s and I got excited by the trailer for the movie. It feels like it just has a vibe and energy to it.

      One thing I feel good about, is not only is the cast impressive but the technical crew are very good as well. Plus, I know they worked and rehearsed their butt’s off for the movie, so you know nothing was taken for granted and the hard work put forth on screen is genuine and there won’t be any sleepwalking going by this cast. One person wrote on another site and said, it’s definitely the women’s movie, but also that even though it’s a musical, DDL brings in another dramatic performance, and that he is in nearly every scene and dominates the screen again.
      I also wasn’t very enthused by the trailer for Invictus. Glad trailers are not the be all or end all. It will definitely get thrown in the hat of Oscar discussion because of who is in it and who directed it.

    33. bambi October 30th, 2009 at 9:56 pm 33

      James, thank you so much on your support and well-written argument! Now I don`t feel crazy for not feeling Invictus.

      Ryan, sorry for the “defeatus” mix up. I hope the Clunt won`t kick you off his lawn for that. It was my misinterpretation,kick me.

      That said, I don`t feel Invictus because it`s the by-the-book Oscar winner type which should do well in any year except this one touted to be the year of change, getting in touch with masses and what not. Unless it surprises us all with Transformers-like boxoffice and Mandela action figure sales, I don`t think it`s gonna be the movie that masses and critics alike want for the winner. Like I said, I`m not familar with AMPAS politics but I know that they like to award based on a trend or a fad.Well their own trends and fads (last year it was India fad while everyone else was in TDK mode). Therefore, based on how this year`s Oscar race is shaped, I`m not seeing Invictus to be the trend-setter. IMO, movies that fit the change, “lets do it differently” fad are:

      a) LB – genre half make it look like a bold step for AMPAS winner and the victory for geeks but disfuncional family drama half is something that AMPAS always eats up.So everyone`s happy unless everyone hates the half-blood princeness of it and goes for a pure-blood genre offering…

      b) AVATAR aka a substitute for TDK, the snubee that forced the change from 5 to 10 BPs (all smoke and mirrors but still). That is if critical response and boxoffice are on the level of Nolan`s masterpiece (yeah, yeah, I know, I`m TDK nerd, sue me, boo). I mean, they nominated the talking piglet movie so I guess that talking blue cats are more their thing than superhero Godfather.Unless they want to open a real Pandora`s box and award…

      c) A Single Man or ROTK shouldn`t be the only gay-themed movie that ever won BP. After the infamous Brokeback snub, AMPAS tried to redeem itself by awarding the hottest gay icon since Jake Gylenhaal, DLB, and Sean Penn in the role of Harvey Milk but that didn`t equal BP. try harder, AMPAS. But now, in the year that promises to revamp the Oscars, what better way than award Tom Ford`s sensational directorial debut? Maybe…

      d)…Hurt Locker and K-Big? Sophia Coppola got this close to becoming the first female BD winner but it was in the wrong year (the year of LOTR). But this is the year of change and K-Big is leading the pack with her supremely manly movie. And the talk of female directors finally getting their dues is a big fad.

    34. pol medina October 30th, 2009 at 11:14 pm 34

      Sorry guys. The Hurt Locker will be sidetracked in the BP race. That film is sooooo overrated.

      This is how the BP nominees should look like
      1. Precious
      2. Up in the Air
      3. Avatar
      4. The Lovely Bones
      5. Invictus
      6. The Road
      7. A Single Man
      8. An Education
      9. 500 Days of Summer
      10. Bright Star (or The Prophet)

    35. James (Cinemaniac86) October 30th, 2009 at 11:19 pm 35

      And just because you want something to be snubbed doesn’t mean it will be snubbed. Deal with it.

      And get over “Bright Star” now.

      Bambi, I’ll get back to you later!

    36. UncleVanya October 31st, 2009 at 2:37 am 36

      This whole guessing game gives me the hives. I would never presume to know what the potential nominees would be unless I had seen them all, and could ascertain the thoughts of the voters. Until all the rabbits are out of the hat, I can only hope for those whom i think are worthy. Otherwise, this conversation is a pyrrhic victory for the obssessed and beautiful dreamers.

    37. John October 31st, 2009 at 7:40 am 37

      I bet all of you that only 6 or so of the major movies that keep showing up on lists will actually be in the Top 10. This is the Academy. Sometimes, you just never freaking know. haha

    38. Alan of Montreal October 31st, 2009 at 5:18 pm 38

      I’m not so sure about Invictus. I’m also wondering what’s turned Eastwood into Paul Haggis all of a sudden with these “important” films?

    39. Jabba November 1st, 2009 at 5:32 am 39

      Are they crazy?
      There is absolutely no chance for Avatar getting in.
      Its and action sci-fi movie with obviously great visual effects, but nothing more!

      Read my post once again and in January you will see.

    40. Sasha Stone November 1st, 2009 at 12:24 pm 40

      “Read my post once again and in January you will see.”

      You might turn out to be right but that still doesn’t make it more than an educated guess. It isn’t true about sci-fi movies with great fx not getting in. Star Wars got in and there were only five then.

    41. K. Bowen November 1st, 2009 at 6:53 pm 41

      No Bright Star? It’s a fantastic movie.


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    • Contender Tracker

      Best Picture
      Up in the Air
      Nine
      The Hurt Locker
      An Education
      Precious: Based on the Novel
      Push by Sapphire

      A Serious Man
      Inglourious Basterds
      Up

      Julie & Julia
      Star Trek
      District 9
      Bright Star
      Where the Wild Things Are
      A Single Man

      Best Actor
      Jeff Bridges, Crazy Heart
      Colin Firth, A Single Man
      George Clooney, Up in the Air
      Matt Damon, The Informant!
      Jeremy Renner, The Hurt Locker
      Viggo Mortensen, The Road
      Ben Foster, The Messenger
      Michael Stuhlbarg, A Serious Man
      Michael Sheen, The Damned United

      Best Actress
      Gabby Sidibe, Precious
      Carey Mulligan, An Education
      Meryl Streep, Julie & Julia
      Abbie Cornish, Bright Star
      Helen Mirren, The Last Station
      Michelle Monaghan, Trucker

      Best Supporting Actor
      Christoph Waltz, Inglourious Basterds
      Alfred Molina, An Education
      Stanley Tucci, Julie & Julia
      Peter Sarsgaard, An Education
      Robert Duvall, Crazy Heart
      Peter Capaldi, In the Loop
      Zach Galifianakis, The Hangover
      Anthony Mackie, The Hurt Locker
      Brian Geraghty, The Hurt Locker

      Best Supporting Actress
      Mo'Nique,Precious
      Anna Kendrick,Up in the Air
      Maggie Gyllenhaal, Crazy Heart
      Julianne Moore, A Single Man
      Melanie Laurent, Inglourious Basterds
      Vera Farmiga, Up in the Air
      Samantha Morton, The Messenger
      Emma Thompson, An Education
      Cara Seymour, An Education

      Best Director
      Jason Reitman, Up in the Air
      Lee Daniels, Precious
      Kathryn Bigelow, The Hurt Locker
      Lone Scherfig, An Education
      Quentin Tarantino, Inglourious Basterds
      Joel and Ethan Coen, A Serious Man
      Neill Blomkamp, District 9
      Spike Jonze, Where the Wild Things Are
      Tom Ford, A Single Man
      Jane Campion, Bright Star

      Best Original Screenplay
      Mark Boal, The Hurt Locker
      Joel and Ethan Coen, A Serious Man
      Jane Campion, Bright Star
      Quentin Tarantino,Inglourious Basterds
      Michael Haneke,White Ribbon
      Bob Peterson, Pete Docter,Up
      Scott Neustadter, Michael H. Weber, 500 Days of Summer

      Best Adapted Screenplay
      Jason Reitman, Sheldon Turner, Up in the Air
      Nick Hornby, An Education
      Spike Jonze, Dave Eggars, Where the Wild Things Are
      Peter Morgan, The Damned United
      Geoffrey Fletcher, Precious: Based on the Novel Push by Sapphire
      Scott Burns, The Informant!
      Tom Ford, A Single Man

      Best Editing

      Chris Innis, Bob Murawski, The Hurt Locker
      Sally Menke, Inglourious Basterds
      Dana E. Glauberman,, Up in the Air
      Joel and Ethan Coen,, A Serious Man

      Best Cinematography
      Greig Fraser,Bright Star
      Robert Richardson,Inglourious Basterds
      Roger Deakins, A Serious Man
      Christian Berger, White Ribbon
      Bruno Delbonnel,Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince
      Barry Ackroyd, The Hurt Locker

      Best Art Direction

      Where the Wild Things Are
      Julie & Julia
      Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince
      Bright Star
      Inglourious Basterds
      White Ribbon
      District 9
      A Serious Man

      Best Sound Mixing

      Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince
      District 9
      Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen
      The Hurt Locker
      Star Trek

      Best Sound Editing

      District 9
      Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen
      Star Trek
      Up

      Best Costume Design
      Janet Patterson, Bright Star
      Jany Temime,Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince
      Anna B. Sheppard,Inglourious Basterds
      Mary Zophre, A Serious Man
      Colleen Atwood, Public Enemies
      Consolata Boyle,Cheri

      Best Original Score
      Carter Burwell, Karen O,Where the Wild Things Are
      Carter Burwell,A Serious Man
      Michael Giacchino,Up
      Alexandre Desplat, Cheri
      Elliot Goldenthal, Public Enemies

      Best Foreign Language Film (submissions)

      Letters from Father Jacob, Finland
      White Wedding, South Africa
      A Prophet, France
      Dawson, Isla 10, Chile
      Nobody to Watch Over Me, Japan
      Prince of Tears, Hong Kong
      No puedo vivir sin ti, Taiwan
      Kelin, Kazakhstan
      Mother, Korea
      The White Ribbon, Germany
      Silent Army, The Netherlands


      Best Documentary Feature

      The Beaches of Agnes
      Burma VJ
      The Cove
      Every Little Step
      Facing Ali
      Food, Inc.
      Garbage Dreams
      Living in Emergency
      The Most Dangerous Man in America
      Mugabe and the White African
      Sergio
      Soundtrack for a Revolution
      Under Our Skin
      Valentino
      Which Way Home


      Best Animated Feature
      Up
      The Princess and the Frog
      Coraline
      The Fantastic Mr. Fox
      A Christmas Carol
      Mary and Max
      Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs
      Ponyo


      Best Visual Effects
      Star Trek
      District 9
      A Christmas Carol
      Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince
      Transformers


      Best Makeup

      Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince
      District 9

      Best Song

      Best Live Action Short

      Best Animated Short

      Best Documentary Short

      China’s Unnatural Disaster: The Tears of Sichuan Province
      The Last Campaign of Governor Booth Gardner
      The Last Truck: Closing of a GM Plant
      Lt. Watada
      Music by Prudence
      Rabbit a la Berlin
      Tell Them Anything You Want: A Portrait of Maurice Sendak
      Woman Rebel

    • Ampas Breakdown

      Actors-1,222
      Producers-462
      Executives-436
      Sound-411
      Writers-388
      Art Directors-373
      Directors-375
      Public Relations-370
      Members at Large-254
      Shorts/Feature Ani-335
      Visual Effects-272
      Music-233
      Editors-227
      Cinematographers-197
      Documentary-145
      Makeup-115
      Total Voting Members -approx 6,000
    • Tuesday, December 1, 2009: Official Screen Credits forms due

      Monday, December 28, 2009: Nominations ballots mailed

      Saturday, January 23, 2010: Nominations polls close 5 p.m. PT

      Tuesday, February 2, 2010: Nominations announced 5:30 a.m. PT, Samuel Goldwyn Theater

      Wednesday, February 10, 2010: Final ballots mailed

      Monday, February 15, 2010: Nominees Luncheon

      Saturday, February 20, 2010: Scientific and Technical Achievement Awards presentation

      Tuesday, March 2, 2010: Final polls close 5 p.m. PT

      Sunday, March 7, 2010: 82nd Annual Academy Awards presentation