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This gave me chills……!
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Damn…I’m starting to think that as impressive as his three Best Picture contenders are this year (certainly more impressive than his two recent BP winners), a Harvey-threepeat won’t happen…not when Spielberg seems to be bringing his A-game and ridiculously Oscary ‘Les Miserables’ still looking damn good based on that first trailer.
Having said that, we definitely need official early word on these two, because even though ‘The Master’ might be too edgy, ‘Playbook’ too light and ‘Django’ too Tarantino for the Academy, two of those already have remarkably strong early word, meanwhile ‘Lincoln’ and ‘Les Miserables’ could still go either way.
First, I want to predicate this with me not knowing what Lincoln sounded like, but the voice here just does not seem right to me. Granted, history has embued Lincoln with this mythical weight, but Day Lewis’ voice just does not have the gravitas I expected.
are we sure that’s Lincoln’s voice? I thought it was. But someone told me it was another person speaking (which doesnt really make sense to me).
I think the voice is epic. It’s so tender and rich. Exactly how Lincoln should sound based on the description they gave us a few months ago about him being a hippie poet.
That’s not Lincoln voice you idiot LOL
Are you fucking blind? It’s the soldier’s!
I’m pretty sure that’s the voice of the soldier you see played by David Oyelowo.
That’s clearly not Daniel Day-Lewis’ voice.
If it’s the soldiers voice, it doesnt make much sense for his delivery to be the way it is once he starts walking away from Lincoln….he sounds like he’s delivering a speech to a crowd, but he’s walking away towards nobody.
So? The voiceover could just be from a different scene. The fact that David Oyelowo is the only other cast member to appear in the trailer pretty much confirms that it’s him. Sounds just like him.
Meh. 40+ seconds doesn’t convince me if this is going to be good, bad or indifferent.
The voice is obviously the soldier – you can see him speaking.
I’m betting we don’t hear him speak in the trailer. It’ll be others talking about him. Lots of him pondering and listening.
Well, the words are from the Gettysburg Address, but it’s definitely not DDL speaking, so I don’t really get the point of the teaser, other than just being a tease.
BTW – Here’s what I could find on the real voice – lets’ hope SS doesn’t go for the typically moving bass voice just for effect:
“Lincoln’s voice was, when he first began speaking, shrill, squeaking, piping, unpleasant; his general look, his form, his pose, the color of his flesh, wrinkled and dry, his sensitiveness, and his momentary diffidence, everything seemed to be against him, but he soon recovered.”
–William H. Herndon letter, July 19, 1887
“But whenever he began to talk his eyes flashed and every facial movement helped express his idea and feeling. Then involuntarily vanished all thought or consciousness of his uncouth appearance, or awkward manner, or even his high keyed, unpleasant voice.
”–Abram Bergen in Intimate Memories of Lincoln
“The [second] inaugural address was received in most profound silence. Every word was clear and audible as the ringing and somewhat shrill tones of Lincoln’s voice sounded over the vast concourse.”
–Noah Brooks in Washington in Lincoln’s Time
Tinkly piano YAWWWWWN.
It’s clearly Sally Field’s voice. Chain smokers is those days…
What is the deal with the ‘tick tock tick tock’ of the clock?
It is rumoured Lincoln had a big clock, and liked to show it off at parties.
Let’s hope we get to see it in the film.
This is not far different than what I expected from Spielberg.
Recall that one of the reasons I dislike Schindler’s List is that the film plays on viewer’s emotions by showing tons of scenes of the poor treatment of Jews that Schindler could not have been witness to. Yet the film’s main arc was with Schindler. It’s a disjointed narrative effort that’s not particularly effective once you strip it down and examine it closely.
I predicted that we would get scenes of harsh slavery and brutal battle scenes that were present not to illustrate but to manipulate viewers. And here in this trailer we see evidence that I might be right as we get a glimpse of a battle scene that Lincoln was clearly not present at.
I just find this method of filmmaking cheap and a little too easy.
^ not sure if it was Schinder’s p.o.v that the film was told, but rather a story pieced together by the survivors and their families.
Not to be a pain but…
War Horse: Civil War Edition.
That’s what I get out of this teaser.
I sense some hostility LOL I guess it must look better than I thought. People are beginning to feel threatened. I can’t wait for the reactions of those already fully invested in The Master XD or will it be Zero Dark Thirty? something along those lines…
Not hostile, just had a bad sexual experience last night…
I’ve just finished reading the THR and Variety reviews of ‘The Impossible’ and I now strongly believe we should consider it much more seriously in the main categories than we are at the moment. Apparently it is a realistic, remarkably well-made emotional powerhouse filled with extraordinary performances and breathtaking visuals. If that’s the case, it does indeed have a good shot at becoming a Holiday Sleeper Hit…and if THAT happens, watch out Lincoln and co. ! The Impossible seems like the kind of film the Academy usually LOVES! Nominations in picture, director, actress, supporting actor, editing, cinematography, score, sound, sound editing, makeup could easily happen in my opinion. Also, I think Watts will emerge as the frontrunner in the Best Actress race. My two cents.
OT, it will be funny to look back in a few months, momentary brainstorm coming :
BEST PICTURE – The Impossible
BEST DIRECTOR – Paul Thomas Anderson (The Master)
BEST ACTRESS – Naomi Watts (The Impossible)
BEST ACTOR – Daniel Day-Lewis (Lincoln)
BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR – Robert de Niro (Silver Linings Playbook)
BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS – Anne Hathaway (Les Miserables)
BEST ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY – Quentin Tarantino (Django Unchained)
BEST ADAPTED SCREENPLAY – Chris Terrio (Argo)
Meanwhile, after the last few years, it will be perfectly expected if ONE of these films will just pull off a clean sweep.
Spielbergs bringing his A game lately, with last years epic War Horse, and now this. The score already sounds good!
Silence before Storm!!!!!!
It is David Oyelowo speaking.
Believe, if it will be a little good, no other film will have a chance against it.
Meanwhile, I have watched this nearly 30 times!!1
“The Impossible seems like the kind of film the Academy usually LOVES! Nominations in picture, director, actress, supporting actor, editing, cinematography, score, sound, sound editing, makeup”
What does Ewan McGregor have to do to get noticed? Big oversights for Trainspotting and Moulin Rouge, he’s never been particularly bad, doesn’t seem to be a divo, has a lovely smile, doesn’t fuck around, obediently does the promotion circuit….but he never gets any notice.
And I’ve watched teaser thing a couple more times and it does less for me each viewing. To the point where it’s a civil war reenactment with bad lighting and music (and somebody-not-Lincoln reading a few words form the Gettysburg Address). Pageant stuff. Better start throwing in some DDL soon – he’s not a horse, he can talk.
Good question. He has been snubbed one too many times (Trainspotting, Little Voice, Nora, Moulin Rouge!, Big Fish, Young Adam, The Ghost Writer, Beginners not to mention that though far from Oscar-worthy, he did play the iconic part of Obi-Wan Kenobi,too), that’s why it is frustrating to me that the studio wants to campaign him in supporting for ‘The Impossible’…it wouldn’t be very fitting if this very deserving leading man would get his first nomination and it would be in supporting, for a performance that probably should be considered lead, but apparently will not.
Don’t forget his wonderful debut in Shallow Grave! McGregor usually shies away from showy acting choices, usually preferring to be understated than obvious. That style of acting often goes unappreciated.
Mattoc, I’d agree with you if Spielberg made any real attempt to give any of the Jewish characters a narrative arc. They are presented as interchangeable objects for the Nazis to kill and torture rather than as fully formed characters with which we can sincerely empathize. What we’re given is superficial horror for these people who no doubt suffered immensely. Spielberg is dismissive of these people and uses them to manipulate rather than educate the audience.
Spielberg is a great action director, but horrible with presenting character. My fear for Lincoln is that Spielberg will be more concerned with presenting the mythic president we all know and love rather than exploring why it was Abraham Lincoln, rather than someone else, that changed the course of history.
What about the little kid in the toilet?
I know what you mean, and I think the narrative you wanted to see would probably be too hard to handle. He went with effective extras and music instead.
Could have just filmed :15 of Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln and posted it online…..better yet, this whole movie will likely be just Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln: Extended Edition knowing Speilberg. He is just a vanilla, predictable, text book kinda guy. He holds no surprises. I mean, maybe this will be a dark character exploration that isn’t just an expensive Disneyland attraction but I doubt it. I really doubt it. No doubt that DDL will dazzle though just b/c you will swear to fucking god that Honest Abe has risen and filmed this for us all……b/c he’s gonna look like him and it’s gonna be full of all the shit that has had every 10 year old declaring Abe their favorite President since the civil rights movement took hold.
^ way to spoil a Google Hangout.
dear god, sure hope that’s not what Lincoln sounds in the film?!
IT… IS… NOOOOOTTTT!!!!
This aggression will not stand, man!
He was a high talker, let’s leave it that.
it is David Oyelowo speaking. you can see yourself. just watch the actor who is standing in front of Lincoln you can see his mouth saying “shall have a new birth”.
Can someone check on Telperion.
Gore Vidal said, several times, that Lincoln was the best American writer of the 19th century.
What is this website that I can actually access now?
I don’t like teasers for trailers, so Thursday is the one I’m looking for. Skipping this one.
Long list of candidates for BP at European Film Awards, has this been posted?
Nice list – great year for Scandinavia, esp. Mikkelsen.
I didn’t realize that Israel was in Europe, though. Brazil is there, but as a co-producer of Tabu, which makes sense.
This is not the only time I’ve seen Israel grouped in with Europeans for a competition. Israel competes at the European figure skating championships for example.
I guess they are Europeans since they are not Arabs.
I am astonished at the idiocy on this site and others. The voice in the Lincoln trailer is obviously that of a young black actor. Dear God, how are you people going to understand THE MASTER?
We’ll just have to sit here and diddle ourselves while we wait for your wisdom to be poured on us like cum in an inkblot drawing.
I will admit as a ‘Les Miserables’ fan (taking off my critic hat for that one) I do feel a bit threatened by ‘Lincoln’ but I am being completely honest when I say that in those few seconds ‘Lincoln’ does look like ‘War Horse: Civil War edition.’ The music sounds identical while the shooting style looks almost identical as well. I just didn’t see anything original at all.
In conclusion, I guess I wasn’t as wowed by this as some people. I will say I am still anxious to see the full trailer and film. I am not stupid enough to judge a 2+ hour film on just 20 or so seconds. I’m just a little less excited than I was 24 hours ago.
Yeah, there’s nothing positive to be taken away from this teaser. Nothing at all. It looks like someone standing in the middle of Times Square yelling “LOOK AT ME! I’M IMPORTANT”
I understand that it’s just a teaser, but I feel like I learn far more about The Master in those 45 second scenes that aren’t even in that film. Those snippets have such a strong point of view, they make you want to unwrap the gift that has most assuredly been given to us.
Even with the Les Mis trailer, even though it’s a bunch of quick edits, you do get 90 seconds of a vocal that informs the audience what the director is trying to do and how successful he does it.
But this, it’s just garbage. It shows me nothing, it gives me no sense of what the film wants to be.
I should point out that I’m not criticizing Spielberg for this teaser, I’m criticizing the marketing team trying to sell this film to me, a potential ticketbuyer.
I also realize I am not the target audience here.
vast difference in source material between War Horse and Lincoln…. especially the opportunity to craft dialogue from Lincoln’s words.
^ it seems you waited for trailer or teaser to begin to criticize film. I do not say about you but most people will always say that Spielberg isnt the same creative director as he was in 1970, 80 or 90s. whether film is masterpiece or crap. just wait until trailer and then for film. This is just teaser. They always show only 1 or 2 scenes in teasers. And how can we say? Maybe this speaking actor is playing major role in events.
phantom said, (regarding Ewan McGregor in ‘The Impossible’)- “…it wouldn’t be very fitting if this very deserving leading man would get his first nomination and it would be in supporting, for a performance that probably should be considered lead, but apparently will not.”
The reviews I’ve read said he doesn’t become very prominent until nearly an hour into the film, and that the first half is nearly strictly Watts and Holland. And then in the second half, Watts is mostly bedridden, and Holland emerges as the film’s only true lead. This is why they’re campaigning Holland in Lead Actor, Watts in Lead Actress, and McGregor and the other kids in Supporting Actor.
Thanks, russfundheim. You insulted a 60 year old professor. I find your wit “cheap and a little bit too easy.” I stand by my assertion that jumping to the conclusion that the world’s greatest actor has chosen to play our best loved president in the voice of a young African-American is STUPID.
I notice how you enjoy lecturing.[much of it not bad] Are we by chance in the same profession?
Just a reminder that this is a teaser for the trailer itself.
I don’t give a fuck who I insult, as long as that person is one who comes onto this website declaring everyone to be idiots for not being linguistics experts.
LOL This fucking guy is in The Master’s camp -fully invested ^^^