LA Critics award Amour, Paul Thomas Anderson, Joaquin Phoenix, Emmanuelle Riva, Jennifer Lawrence

Best Film: Amour
(runner-up:  The Master )
Best Director: Paul Thomas Anderson, The Master
(runner-up: Kathryn Bigelow)
Best Actress, tie: Emmanuelle Riva, Amour
and Jennifer Lawrence, Silver Linings Playbook 
Best Actor: Joaquin Phoenix, The Master
(runner-up: Denis Lavant, Holy Motors
Best Supporting Actor: Dwight Henry, Beasts of the Southern Wild
(runner-up: Christof Waltz, Django Unchained)
Best Supporting Actress:  Amy Adams, The Master
(runner-up: Anne Hathaway, The Dark Knight Rises and Les Miserables)

Best Editing: Dylan Tichenor and William Goldenberg, Zero Dark Thirty
(runner-up: William Goldenberg, Argo)
Best Cinematography: Roger Deakins, Skyfall
(runner-up: Mihai Malaimare Jr., The Master)
Best Score:  Benh Zeitlin & Dan Romer, Beasts of the Southern Wild
(runner-up: Jonny Greenwood, The Master)
Best Screenplay: Chris Terrio, Argo
(runner-up: David O. Russell, Silver Linings Playbook)
Best Production Design: Jack Fisk, The Master
(runner-up: Adam Stockhausen, Moonrise Kingdom)
Best Animated Film: Frankenweenie
(runner-up: It’s Such a Beautiful Day)
Best Documentary: The Gatekeepers
(runner-up: Searching for Sugar Man)
Best Foreign Language Film: Holy Motors
(runner-up:  Footnote)
New Generation Award: Benh Zeitlin, Beasts of the Southern Wild



Last minute predictions as we await the final awards. The players:

Ryan Adams, AwardsDaily
Erik Anderson,
Sasha Stone, AwardsDaily
Marshall Flores, AwardsDaily
Craig Kennedy, Living in Cinema 

Best Picture
Flores, Anderson:  The Master
Stone, Kennedy: Zero Dark Thirty
Argo: Adams

Best Director
Flores, Stone, Kennedy: Kathryn Bigelow, Zero Dark Thirty
Anderson: Paul Thomas Anderson, The Master
Adams: Ang Lee, Life of Pi

Best Actor
Flores, Anderson, Kennedy, Stone, Adams: Daniel Day-Lewis, Lincoln

Best Actress
Flores, Anderson: Emmanuelle Riva, Amour
Stone, Adams: Jessica Chastain, Zero Dark Thirty
Kennedy: Quvenzhane Wallis, Beasts of the Southern Wild

Best Supporting Actor
Flores, Adams: Philip Seymour Hoffman, The Master
Anderson: Matthew McConaughey, Magic Mike
Stone: Tommy Lee Jones, Lincoln
Kennedy: Jason Clarke, Zero Dark Thirty

Best Supporting Actress
Flores, Kennedy: Anne Hathaway, Les Miserables
Anderson: Ann Dowd, Compliance
Stone, Adams: Sally Field, Lincoln

Best Screenplay
Flores, Stone, Anderson, Adams: Tony Kushner, Lincoln
Kennedy: Mark Boal, Zero Dark Thirty


  1. g 3 years ago

    What time do they announce the awards?

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  2. bill 3 years ago

    second g’s question

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  3. Erik Anderson 3 years ago


    Whenever they damn well please lol. Actually, it’s Boston that’s holding them up, seemingly quite intentionally.

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  4. g 3 years ago

    Thanks Erik :)

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  5. Lynne 3 years ago

    Come on Hathaway!

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  6. phantom 3 years ago

    As early as it is in the race, I firmly believe the acting contenders of The Master, Beasts of the Southern Wild and Amour NEED to win here to stay in the conversation. They were always supposed to be strong in this stage, they had been already snubbed by NYFCC, if LAFCA ignores them, too, NSFC is their last hope for some serious critics-love, but they probably won’t announce before the Academy-deadline so won’t help them even if they win. I don’t see them getting the ‘big’ nominations (OSCAR-SAG-BAFTA-HFPA-BFCA) if they are ignored by the precursors (=critics) that were supposed to favor them…even if strictly based on performances, Phoenix and Riva would definitely deserve the nomination the very least, arguably Wallis, too.

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  7. Paddy Mulholland 3 years ago

    Boston’s website says they’ll have their winners up by 3pm. That’s just over two hours from the time I’m typing this. Their twitter intimates that they’re currently voting. Perhaps they’ll announce all their nominations at one; normally they do it category by category.

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  8. paddy Mulholland 3 years ago

    *at once

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  9. Peter 3 years ago


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  10. phantom 3 years ago

    They started voting, first up : supporting actor.

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  11. Chung 3 years ago

    @Peter, it doesn’t begin, it has already ended.
    It is Zero Dark Thirty sweeping the Oscars like Titanic!!!
    You can’t stop Bigelow. She is unstoppable and no one should dare doubt her talent!
    I predict Bigelow will walk away with 6 or 7 Oscars, best pic, director, screenplay, actress, editing, sound editing, sound, and best cinematography.
    Race? What race? There is no race.

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  12. phantom 3 years ago

    Dwight Henry wins, Wallis will have a shot then, too !

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  13. GoOnNow 3 years ago

    congrats to Dwight! I watched the film last night and really enjoyed his performance.

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  14. Sebbers 3 years ago

    Woooo! This is GREAT for Beasts and Henry 100% deserves this win! Praying Wallis will win her first REAL award this season and not just “newcomer”.

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  15. phantom 3 years ago

    Christoph Waltz is the runner-up, so between him, DiCaprio and Samuel L. Jackson, there will be considerable internal competition in the supporting actor race. After some category-confusion, Waltz WAS put back in supporting after a brief stint in the lead race, the most recent FYC ads back that up and campaign him in supporting.

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  16. Nr27 3 years ago

    I still think, “Beasts” is extremely overrated, but yay for Christoph Waltz!

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  17. phantom 3 years ago

    OK, one for ‘Beasts’, one for ‘Master’, so they DO consider these films awards-worthy, now let’s see if they can give the (other) acting contenders the much-needed LAFCA-boost : Joaquin Phoenix, Quvenzhané Wallis, Amy Adams ? At least one of them ?

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  18. Ted 3 years ago

    Gosh, I can’t wait to see the rest of their picks! Loving the Dwight Henry win (I was praying he’d somehow find his way back into the race) and THE MASTER for production design!!

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  19. white russian 3 years ago

    Ooh Beasts and The Master are already cleaning up. This makes me very happy.

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  20. steve50 3 years ago

    Thanks, LA, for mixing it up a bit.

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  21. white russian 3 years ago

    Considering all the lackery he has received in the recent past, it is both a surprise and a true delight to see a Tim Burton movie become the critics’ favourite. Admittedly, it hasn’t been as strong a year for animation output, at least not in my opinion, and I would’ve canvassed for Paranorman personally, but there will be little complaint from me if the consensus solidifies around Frankweenie.

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  22. Christophe 3 years ago

    3 wins in a day for Frankenweenie! Awesome! Now that’s a sweep I can agree with!

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  23. steve50 3 years ago

    drumroll -Supporting actress is up on the block. Who’s the official frontrunner?

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  24. phantom 3 years ago

    And the runner up for best supporting actress is…Anne Hathaway.

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  25. phantom 3 years ago

    …so the award goes to : AMY ADAMS !!! YAY !!!

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  26. steve50 3 years ago

    And just when you’re ready to write her off…Amy Adams, The Master

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  27. Josh 3 years ago

    Not shocked by Adams at all. I think if any critics group was gonna show the love for that movie it was LA. I think it wins Best Pic for them too.

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  28. Bella 3 years ago

    WOW! Amy Adams for The Master?! That’s amazing! Let’s hope Phoenix can take Best Actor! And Beasts of the Southern Wild is doing great too:D Really happy for that film.

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  29. deniz 3 years ago

    YESSS !! Please give Amy Adams the Oscar,too. She was perfect in The Master.

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  30. Tero Heikkinen 3 years ago

    Too difficult to follow three things at once, but LA matters the most, so yeah.

    Good to see The Master back in the game big time (until ZDT gets the main prizes in all of these, ofc).

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  31. Nick K. 3 years ago

    Don Hertzfeldt is one of the great American animators working today, so I’m glad “It’s Such a Beautiful Day” got some love.

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  32. phantom 3 years ago

    With all the fantastic raves the men of ‘The Master’ received, I’m glad to see Adams still not overshadowed. If she pulls off her 4th nomination, she will be officially in Blanchett/Winslet territory as far as the Oscars go, and that will be nice because I don’t think she is widely considered as an actress AS great as she really is. She has all those comedy hits under her belt, yet this might just be her 4th critically acclaimed drama performance that garners her an Oscar-nod…oh, and all that since 2005 !

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  33. ajnrules 3 years ago

    Interesting how Don Hertzfeldt’s It’s Such a Beautiful Day was the runner up for Best Animated Film. it’s almost criminal how the Academy’s short division bypassed it for the Best Animated Short shortlist, but it’s good to see it get some recognition here

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  34. Geraldo 3 years ago

    Yeah! Roger Deakins wins for Skyfall!

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  35. Paddy Mulholland 3 years ago

    LAFCA were aaalways going to love The Master. I’m glad they clearly do though.

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  36. kailor 3 years ago

    So glad Adams pulled it out. Anyone also feel how Adams in recent years had really diversify her roles compared to her earlier roles like Junebug, Sunshine Cleaning, Enchanted Night At the Museum 2 etc (even in Doubt to an extent) which were often more happy go lucky/brighter chars. Is good to see her to play against type by exploring the darker side of the spectrum and excelling at it and being recognized for it!!!

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  37. Corvo 3 years ago

    SKYFALL over THE MASTER for best cinematography??? No way! But I’m happy for Amy Adams, she is a very fine and charming actress.

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  38. Jane 3 years ago

    Poor Anne Hathaway! She seriously poured her heart and soul on screen, and she’s seriously on a losing end of the streak here. Can someone please check if she’s still breathing? Lol.

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  39. Zach 3 years ago

    Yay for Amy Adams! I just love her in everything she does. I feel like the critics are saying, we know Anne Hathaway is winning the Oscar, so let’s share the love and make an impact. Normally that kind of attitude annoys me, especially when the presumed favorite is not a sure thing, but in Anne’s case, she probably is a sure thing, so the critics’ choices are more interesting and important for establishing other actors as worthwhile nominees.

    Supporting Actor really is a clusterfuck. Henry was good. He could happen. Who knows? Only Jones and DiCaprio seem close to locks.

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  40. Jeremy 3 years ago

    Maybe Roger Deakins can finally get his damn Oscar

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  41. Mark F. 3 years ago

    Not a big fan of “The Master,” (I agree with Roger Ebert: What the fuck was this movie trying to say?) , but the acting was good.

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  42. PaulH 3 years ago

    I think we’re definitely seeing reverse ageism in play here re: Lawrence not winning any critics prizes yet. And a little Hunger Games envy. Just because Riva, someone that nobody in America has heard of except in forms like these, plus in her 80’s is no way to decide who gets awarded.

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  43. kasper 3 years ago

    Reverse ageism!!! Hahahhahahhah! HAHAHAHAHAHHA!! Do you mean exception proves the rule?

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  44. Evelyn Garver 3 years ago

    Lawrence, whom I admire, has every chance at the Oscars, which has often been accused of awarding the great beauties over the aging [Meryl being an exception.]

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  45. Ryan Adams 3 years ago

    “think we’re definitely seeing reverse ageism in play here…”

    is that anything like reverse racism? so… kinda nice, right?

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  46. kasper 3 years ago

    You have a strong reaction to Riva winning because she’s old? Because she’s not in Hunger Games? She is however in a masterpiece called Hiroshima, Mon Amour. Have you even seen Amour yet, PaulH?

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  47. JP 3 years ago

    For the body of work, Deakins definitely deserve to win. Not for the cinematography of Skyfall in special, which I find inferior to Life of Pi, The Master, Beasts of the Southern Wild and even Lincoln and Argo.

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  48. BeavKes 3 years ago

    Getting this feeling that this group just wanted to be different all across the board with their choices. And some lap this up. Sadly.

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  49. Ryan Adams 3 years ago

    PaulH, ok, we understand you have a chronic problem with movies winning awards that you haven’t seen. There’s a way to fix that, you know?

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  50. phantom 3 years ago


    Emmanuelle Riva deserves every award she gets, in my opinion her performance was one of the most heartbreaking of all time. Her facial expressions in scenes that depict all the indignities an ill, old person has to suffer through, are completely devastating and most certainly acting at its very best. Her last close-up in the slap-scene almost made me cry and I haven’t cried during a film since The Lion King (and I was 6 then). I think it’s sad that you don’t feel the need to watch a cinematic masterpiece like ‘Amour’ simply because it isn’t a hungergamesesque smash hit featuring a young actress you have actually heard about before…yet you feel the need to trash it.

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  51. kailor 3 years ago

    I think we have to assume Hathaway still as frontrunner despite not winning anything yet. Supporting Actress reminds me of the Sandra Bullock Best Actress race few years back. Streep/Hathaway being favored by critics with the major awards show precursors (GG/SAG/BAFTA/AMPAS) ignoring the major critics traction. To me Sally Fields is the only major threat atm (her being a beloved veteran actress and Lincoln being a major BP contender). Adams’ film is still too divisive and it just feels like it is not her time and year. Hunt could be a dark horse (being a former winner/comeback film story), Dowd (too little known atm), and Maggie Smith (just happy if she makes it). Hathaway’s fantine role is just 1 that AMPAS usually embraces (Sympathetic, mother role, tears galore)…

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  52. steve50 3 years ago

    LAFC is back from lunch – Editing up.

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  53. kasper 3 years ago

    Well put Kailor. I still think Anne Hathaway is up front too.

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  54. Paddy Mulholland 3 years ago

    Let’s not all hate on PaulH, k? It’s not his fault. We can’t just expect him to see films where he might have to read subtitles, now, can we? Some people have it and some people don’t. That’s all!

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  55. Paddy Mulholland 3 years ago

    Only, kailor, I think Anne Hathaway is going to win plenty of critics’ awards, which Sandra Bullock did not do. But I agree, I can’t see Hathaway losing Best Supporting Actress under any circumstances, realistically.

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  56. Yvette 3 years ago

    I’m torn. I love Amy Adams, but thought she should have won for Doubt. She didn’t really have as much to do in The Master – she’s been better than here. Its essentially a one-dimension role and a hand job. Don’t think that will transfer to Oscar voters, but if The Master is going to win something, it may as well be in LA.

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  57. kailor 3 years ago

    Interesting how Riva has built a little momentum now with a couple wins today. The only downside is that if Riva gets in, Cotillard most likely won’t which is sad considering Rust/Bone is 1 of her best performances. (Highly doubt 2 foreign languages performances can both get in)

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  58. kasper 3 years ago

    I totally forgot about that handjob!!

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  59. Tonybiigood 3 years ago

    if Zero wins, remember social network…i think there will be a change in tthe race.

    Il really don’t know but i bet on Argo. Just a feeling.

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  60. kailor 3 years ago

    Actually Viola Davis should of won that yr in Doubt. I personally feel Adams was the best the year Melissa Leo. Adams was much better than Leo’s chewing the scenery in The Fighter. Adams had subtlety and yet fire in a role that showed she had range and possibly changed how ppl viewed her as a character actress rather than just some1 who excelled in bright happy roles

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  61. steve50 3 years ago

    Argo is still alive

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  62. kailor 3 years ago

    I hope so cuz i thoroughly enjoyed Argo plus Affleck’s directorial efforts had really made me changed my opinions as both an actor and director.

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  63. steve50 3 years ago

    It just placed 2nd in editing.

    Screenplay is up now.

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  64. Tero Heikkinen 3 years ago

    I didn’t get the thing about Adams, because I have not seen The Master yet.

    But I’ll get the handjob next Friday.

    (in other news: seeing The Hobbit in 9hrs, ready to be disappointed).

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  65. Christophe 3 years ago

    Good for you man! I mean the handjob and the hobbit, hopefully not together…

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  66. steve50 3 years ago

    Is LA going to shut-out Lincoln altogether? Guess we’ll know if Kushner doesn’t get screeenplay.

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  67. Calvin 3 years ago

    I believe it doesn’t matter that Adams won here, Hathaway and Field still are the frontrunners. For 0D30, or we have a TSN in our hands or it’ll take the whole lot. Frankenweenie is the Best Animated Feature frontrunner so far (maybe they want to give an award to Burton, so they don’t have to do that later).

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  68. Tero Heikkinen 3 years ago

    Yeah, not together. It would be An Unexpected Handjob.

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  69. steve50 3 years ago

    Argo is very much alive – it just took screenplay.

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  70. Tonybiigood 3 years ago

    Hope for Burton to have finally an award….well deserved.

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  71. Christophe 3 years ago


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  72. Jack Traven II 3 years ago

    Argo wins best screenplay. Hooray!

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  73. Jack Traven II 3 years ago

    … just when I thought ZDT would almost win everything. :-)

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  74. phantom 3 years ago

    kailor, Anne Hathaway has just won 2 awards (New York Online Film Critics, Boston Online Film Critics), that with the prestigious LAFCA-runner-up ‘award’, still keeps her close to the top, but I don’t think she is the frontrunner at the moment. Sally Field won the NYFCC and Boston, she is in a critically acclaimed (86 MC) Box Office smash (130M+ US) that is bound to be a big hit with the Academy’s oh-so-crucial Actors Branch (3 locks in acting categories) and is widely considered a top2 player in BP/BD and the frontrunner in Adapted Screenplay. Hathaway will need her film to back her up at least a little, especially if her biggest competition can rely on hers so spectacularly. The jury is still out on Les Miserables, it could emerge as a top player, but it needs important raves, excellent BO and strong guild-showing first…Field’s film already has all those in the bag, that’s why I think she is the frontrunner…for now.

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  75. Dion Blackler 3 years ago

    Yes, Argo! That’s a welcome surprise. Next up actor: still picking a Lavant upset

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  76. Paddy Mulholland 3 years ago

    All this talk about Argo still being alive…

    Let’s wait to see if it can win anything major before declaring that it’s still in the game. The way things are heading, it’s far behind Zero Dark Thirty, and behind Lincoln, Les Mis and maybe even Silver Linings Playbook in the Best Picture race too.

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  77. Calvin 3 years ago

    Also, I don’t remember Life of Pi showing up anywhere so far. Is it a sign of things to come?

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  78. kailor 3 years ago

    Can I hold on to a Rachel Weisv BA win. Granted that Deep Blue Sea was awful but her actual performance was so masterful that I am rooting for her. It is my NGNG pick

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  79. Tonybiigood 3 years ago

    i’m telling you that argo will be the change :) No prize for Bigelow’s movie yet so…maybe…

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  80. helios 3 years ago

    Actually Lincoln may not be top 2 in either of those categories. Spielberg wasn’t even in the NYFCC top 3.

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  81. Ryan Adams 3 years ago

    NYFCO today: Best Cinematography: Life of Pi – Claudio Miranda

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  82. Jack Traven II 3 years ago

    Ooh, even behind SLP? Isn’t that a bit harsh? 😉

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  83. Watermelons 3 years ago

    Any chance of Kate Winslet taking Best Actress? I think so – you can’t ever count her out.

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  84. white russian 3 years ago

    Hmmm, l.a. was always going to go for argo but kushner not picking up the runner-up spot certainly keeps that category open. Will pta finally pick up a best director nod?

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  85. Jack Traven II 3 years ago

    Tony, ZDT got best editing.

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  86. 3 years ago

    my bad, Jack. :)

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  87. steve50 3 years ago

    Long battle over actor – DDL must not be a shoo-in.

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  88. Corvo 3 years ago

    Joaquin Phoenix WINS! Great!

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  89. Tero Heikkinen 3 years ago

    They love The Master!!! This is where PTA could win over Bigelow.

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  90. steve50 3 years ago

    JOAQUIN! Denis Lavant runner up

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  91. Morgan 3 years ago

    Where are live updates?

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  92. phantom 3 years ago

    Phoenix pulled it off, great, well-deserved, he delivered a groundbreaking performance, what’s strange to me that DDL wasn’t even the runner-up. And that brings me to my next question : where the HELL is Lincoln ?

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  93. helios 3 years ago

    I think they haven’t seen Lincoln yet lol

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  94. Dion Blackler 3 years ago

    Damn it! Really hoped Denis Lavant would win this.

    If you all get withdrawal symptoms at the end of these the British Independent Film Awards are being announced too- Berberian Sound Studios cleaning up. Yeah, I know, no-one cares. I’ll follow anyway.

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  95. phantom 3 years ago

    so…Chastain-Bigelow-ZD30 or will they REALLY love The Master ?

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  96. cyrus 3 years ago


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  97. Paddy Mulholland 3 years ago

    Berberian Sound Studio deserves just about every award coming its way, and just about every award not coming its way too.

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  98. Jack Traven II 3 years ago

    Since Argo won screenplay I somewhat sense an Affleck directing win.

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  99. Bella 3 years ago

    YAYYY!! JOAQUIN for Best Actor:D And at least Denis Lavant was named the runner up! In a perfect world, he and Joaquin would share the Oscar lol

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  100. Fabinho Flapp 3 years ago

    Phoenix!!!!!!!! <3

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  101. JJ 3 years ago

    Just chiming in to say Amy Adams in the Master is a strange choice that holds no water with me. What a small little role and performance that ANY actress could have handled. She’s done better. Others have. The end.

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  102. steve50 3 years ago

    “where the HELL is Lincoln ?”

    LA shot him.

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  103. Tero Heikkinen 3 years ago

    Hmm. Jennifer Lawrence.

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  104. Radich 3 years ago

    Although I’m in this race with DDL all the way till the end, I cannot complain about a Phoenix win. He is great in The Master, a movie I liked A LOT.

    Loved to see that Argo, The Master and Skyfall are getting some deserved recognition.

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  105. Tero Heikkinen 3 years ago

    “Or maybe not”, Glenn Whipp says.

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  106. phantom 3 years ago

    steve 50



    Zero Dark Thirty WON Best Editing. That’s a rather promising sign whatever happens in the end.

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  107. Tero Heikkinen 3 years ago

    A tie!!! Great for Riva.

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  108. efe 3 years ago

    Wow, Riva won Best Actress tied with Lawrence. Riva won three times tonight.

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  109. Morgan 3 years ago

    With Chastain not winning Actress, that indicates The Master and PTA for Picture and Director I would think…

    Will be interesting to see if ZD30 can get runner-up spots?

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  110. Tonybiigood 3 years ago

    yeah phantom, i saw :)….and yeah, it’s very good for the film^^…We’ll see soon !

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  111. Josh 3 years ago

    Big tie for Lawrence as I really thought she wouldn’t be a factor with LA at all. HUGE day for Riva.

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  112. steve50 3 years ago

    Riva and Lawrence tie? Well, as long as they’re not tied together for a 3-legged race, I guess that’s OK.

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  113. Cyrus 3 years ago

    All I want this awards season is to see Emmanuelle Riva win!!! 3 WINS IN ONE DAY!!!! GOOD FOR HER!!!

    I have loved her for years since Hiroshima Mon Amour is one of my favorite films, and this is such a dream to see her in her 80s receiving such well deserved praise!!

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  114. kailor 3 years ago

    Kind of disappointed that Lawrence won despite her being good she is in the wrong category. CATEGORY FRAUD anyone?

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  115. Jack Traven II 3 years ago

    Even though Riva is getting so much love from the critics I wouldn’t wonder if AMPAS chose Cottilard over her.

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  116. Paddy Mulholland 3 years ago

    Yeah, what a day for Emmanuelle Riva! I’m a little amused by the thought that she might not hear of any of these three awards, or care if she does.

    But rly, JLaw? Not hating on JLaw, she worked wonders with that trite, over-simplified role, but srsly? JLaw?

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  117. kasper 3 years ago

    There you go! Your beautiful YOUNG katniss wins a prize.

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  118. JP 3 years ago

    I just read something at The Film Experience that I totally agree. A sweep by any film in the critics circle is ridiculous for the art of film. I would add: specially in such a good year. I hope they don’t give BP to ZD30.

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  119. Winston F. 3 years ago

    LA critics wants to fuck Jennifer Lawrence now!

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  120. phantom 3 years ago

    Emmanuelle Riva won Boston, New York (Online) and now Los Angeles within a few hours, she not only has the most wins in her category for now, but unlike her ‘runner-up’, she also pulled off a rather important one (LAFCA). Having said that, I still think Chastain is a stronger contender.

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  121. Dion Blackler 3 years ago

    BIFAs over, Berberian cleans up but loses to Broken for the big one. Surprising to see The Hunt beat out Amour, Beasts, and Rust and Bone for International Independent Film

    OK, back to the Zero Dark Thirty critics lovefest

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  122. superkk 3 years ago

    happy for dwight henry, thought he was officially CAST OUT. also interesting turn for Riva. the critics awards this week should really solidify everything but right now the only best actress locks i see are Chastain Lawrence and Riva. And who is Denis Lavant and why have i not heard of holy motors?:/

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  123. steve50 3 years ago

    In the running list in the post, shouldn’t that be TIE for Riva, not runnerup

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  124. efe 3 years ago

    Kathryn Bigelow is the Runner-Up

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  125. Joey 3 years ago

    Paul Thomas Anderson wins director! Kathryn Bigelow runner up

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  126. Josh 3 years ago

    PTA for director

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  127. AD 3 years ago

    Steve I was just about to post the same thing. So happy for Riva :) I think that Lawrence, Riva, Chastain trio is the one to beat.

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  128. Paddy Mulholland 3 years ago

    Yes, it was a tie between Lawrence and Riva for Actress.

    Super happy for Berberian Sound Studio at the BIFAs, even is it has missed out on the top award (always nice to see some diversity, though).

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  129. Matt 3 years ago

    Woo PTA 4 BD.

    I’m thinking for Best Picture: Silver Linings. Runner Up: The Master

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  130. phantom 3 years ago

    The one BD-award so far that Bigelow hasn’t won is LAFCA…and even there she is still a runner-up.

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  131. Paddy Mulholland 3 years ago

    I agree with Matt. I predict SLP then The Master.

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  132. Zooey 3 years ago

    So far I got Dwight, Beasts of music (knew it!), Phoenix and Riva.

    @ Sasha,
    change best actress! It’s a tie! :)

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  133. Tonybiigood 3 years ago

    So happy for PTA. Great director !

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  134. Julie 3 years ago

    YES JENNIFER LAWRENCE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  135. Josh 3 years ago

    Been predicting The Master for the win with LA for a while. The Master with runner up ZDT is my call

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  136. steve50 3 years ago

    OK, I’ll guess Argo, then

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  137. Jack Traven II 3 years ago

    Since I got left in the lurch by my senses I’m still hoping for Argo winning a bit more than just screenplay. Ya never know.

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  138. Phil Boroff 3 years ago

    Please correct: Lawrence and Riva TIED for Best Actress. And we wonder why false information gets published and promoted

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  139. Tero Heikkinen 3 years ago

    Wasn’t this always going for The Master? Maybe BP for something else, but I doubt it.

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  140. Dion Blackler 3 years ago

    What what what?! Best Picture Amour!

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  141. Joey 3 years ago

    Amour wons Picture! The Master is the runner-up!

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  142. cyrus 3 years ago



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  143. steve50 3 years ago

    HA! Amour. Stephen Holt just fainted.

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  144. Tero Heikkinen 3 years ago

    WOW. Fantastic picture, LA chose!

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  145. phantom 3 years ago


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  146. Dion Blackler 3 years ago

    That’s an alternative I can get behind. Well done LA film critics

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  147. Corvo 3 years ago

    Ah, l’Amour….

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  148. Josh 3 years ago

    Out of left field…Amour wins.

    Thinking about it, not THAT shocking given the Riva win and their history of picking some pretty obscure movies and performances. Only once in the last ten years has their Best Pic winner won the oscar (Hurt Locker).

    Can’t believe Lincoln was 0-fer

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  149. efe 3 years ago

    I just have to say, best critic awards so far!

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  150. white russian 3 years ago


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  151. Ryan Adams 3 years ago

    Thanks Dion — will post BIFA as soon as LAFCA wraps up

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  152. Asif Khan 3 years ago

    Amour <3

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  153. danemychal 3 years ago

    My prediction of Amour as a BP nominee just got a big boost.

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  154. Mel 3 years ago

    Lawrence and Riva tied….why do you list Lawrence as the sole winner and Riva as runner-up?

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  155. Jack Traven II 3 years ago

    The ZDT spell is broken. … So, The Oscar Games have finally begun. :-)

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  156. Cyrus 3 years ago

    Your main title of the post only mentions Lawrence and no Riva :( but they tied!!! yay!!

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  157. Free 3 years ago

    Interesting picks. Can I just say that Best Supporting Actor is extremely weak this year? Like I’ve never seen before.

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  158. Geraldo 3 years ago

    Hey, it was a tie between Lawrence and Riva!

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  159. Jeremy 3 years ago

    I like this one because it spred the love around. Everything from Skyfall to Amour seemed to walk away with something(or were in the runner-ups)

    well, except Les Miserables.

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  160. Tero Heikkinen 3 years ago

    Best Foreign Language Film still coming up. Could it be the same?

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  161. Daveylow 3 years ago

    These are all very interesting choices. I hope other critcs’ groups start going their own way. It’s hard for me to place Jennifer Lawrence’s performance on the same level as Emmanuelle Riva’s work, which is exceptional.

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  162. Dion Blackler 3 years ago

    You think Amour might take Foreign Language film as well? Credibility out the window if not

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  163. white russian 3 years ago

    Still it’s quite clear that Zero Dark Thirty is the one to beat at the moment. I’m quite happy with that as I can’t wait to see it bit here is hoping these selections did enough to get Amour, The Master and Beasts all a few nominations come Oscar time. All I can hope for.

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  164. Bella 3 years ago

    Wow! Amour for Best Picture with The Master as runner up? Can honestly say that the LA critics are the best group out there!:)

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  165. Daveylow 3 years ago

    Does anyone find giving one screenplay award ludicrous? Out of hundreds of films only one screenplay is the best? And Argo, for that matter?

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  166. Paddy Mulholland 3 years ago

    You think Amour might take Foreign Language film as well? Credibility out the window if not

    How so? I think giving another film the Best Foreign Language Film award would be a nice move. NSFC often do that. Amour doesn’t need it. It wouldn’t make them any less credible. Silver Linings Playbook coming second for Best Screenplay already did that.

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  167. Chung 3 years ago

    Great and bold choice. A breath of fresh air at last. Paul Thomas Anderson deserved it, and thank god, the west coast critics didn’t just jump on the Zero Dark Thirty wagon. Even though I still can’t wait to see ZDT and see what the hoopla is all about.

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  168. Dion Blackler 3 years ago

    Fair call on the Silver Linings credibility comment. But I think if they want to show that they’re not just being contrary by picking Amour instead of Zero Dark Thirty, they should also give it best foreign language film.

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  169. Dion Blackler 3 years ago

    Holy Motors!!! Crazy!! If I didn’t adore Holy Motors so much I’d think this was a stupid choice :)

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  170. Joey 3 years ago

    Foreign Language Film: Holy Motors. Runner up: Footnote.

    Hmm, not Amour?

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  171. Dion Blackler 3 years ago

    It’s still kind of strange that their favourite film of the year couldn’t even manage second place for foreign language film.

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  172. Chris138 3 years ago

    Even if The Master doesn’t get a Best Picture nomination, this win pretty much guarantees PTA a director nod, much like Terrence Malick’s win for The Tree of Life last year led to his Oscar nod.

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  173. Linc4Jess 3 years ago

    Looks like if everything continues to go the way it has being this year and that is the first five film critic groups winners we might have an interesting OSCAR race. But what about “Les Miserables”. Outside of Hathaway Its no where in sight thus far.

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  174. Tero Heikkinen 3 years ago

    And of course there was this:

    Michael Haneke ‏@Michael_Haneke

    aparentlee i jst wons an Las Angelies critix award for best picture!!1!! @brettratner can u pick it up 4 me wen ur out of hooters lol


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  175. Corvo 3 years ago

    HOLY MOTORS! Great, great, great choice! LA critics are the best!

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  176. phantom 3 years ago

    OK, I’m going to be the Grinch and just say it out loud : Quvenzhané Wallis is now officially a long shot. She was supposed to do well in the critics-stage but for some reason, it didn’t happen so even if she wins a few smaller awards in the near future it will be probably too little (no NYFCC/LAFCA), too late (Academy-deadline is a few weeks away). She might sneak in at the BFCA, but the HFPA will probably snub her just like they snubbed most Oscar-caliber child performances (Abigail Breslin, Hailee Steinfeld, Keisha Castle-Hughes) in recent years, she is ineligible for the SAG Award and unfortunately I don’t think she has even a tiny shot at a BAFTA nomination, not with the STRONG European contenders this year (Keira Knightley, Naomi Watts, Helen Mirren, Judi Dench, Maggie Smith, Marion Cotillard, Emmanuelle Riva).

    Of course we could ignore all this, IF the film had a succesful Academy-screening, some star power and an Oscar-friendly release date…but ‘Beasts of the Southern Wild’ has none of those. Frankly, even if voters had loved it back then, they would have forgotten it by now and would have needed the critics to remind them. But with a mixed VERY early screening, unfortunately I don’t think it will register in the race at all, and as great as his performance was, Dwight Henry’s win here, though promising, could be easily a fluke as far as his Oscar-prospects go.

    P.S. Good news that the other acting contenders who REALLY needed a push here, got it : Emmanuelle Riva, Joaquin Phoenix, Amy Adams.

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  177. Paddy Mulholland 3 years ago

    That Michael Haneke fake twitter account is riotously funny lol

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  178. Tero Heikkinen 3 years ago

    LA Film Critics ‏@LAFilmCritics

    Discussion beginning for New Generation Award…..

    It ain’t over ’til it’s over.

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  179. Dion Blackler 3 years ago

    I wish they had given Holy Motors best picture and foreign language film and had Amour as runner up.

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  180. Paddy Mulholland 3 years ago

    They obviously didn’t want to include Amour in the running for Best Foreign Language Film only because it would allow another film to receive added exposure which Amour wouldn’t have benefitted from. We all already know that Amour is their favourite non-English language film of 2012, so why not let another film (and what a film, in Holy Motors’ case) to have the spotlight?

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  181. Jerry 3 years ago

    Very sad for life of Pi. :( Shocked at the Jennifer Lawrence win since LA usually picks only obscure foreign actresses. Nice to see the Riva and Armour wins. Overall the most unpredictable awards so far.

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  182. GoOnNow 3 years ago

    Best Actress is a tie :)

    it’s ugly that there is a mistake in the posting of such an important category.

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  183. Paddy Mulholland 3 years ago

    Life of Pi!!! :( :( :(

    …still haven’t seen it.

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  184. Fabinho Flapp 3 years ago

    Simply the best list til present day.
    PT Anderson, Phoenix, Adams, Amour, Lawrence, Argo.
    The only bizarre winner is Henry for his over and weak performance in that stupid movie called Beasts something.

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  185. phantom 3 years ago

    Now that we had NYFCC/LAFCA, next up the big ones, or at least 3 of the ‘big four’ acting contenders aim for : CRITICS CHOICE nominations (Monday), SAG nominations (Wednesday), GOLDEN GLOBE nominations (Thursday). Basically if someone misses all three in the next few days, we can cross him/her off our list for good (although a BAFTA-nod COULD go a long way (Bardem, Oldman)) AND if someone gets all 3, precedent favors those for the Oscar-nomination, as well (although there are painful, recent exceptions (Swinton, Kunis etc.)).

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  186. Jerry 3 years ago

    I think for Les Miz the studio knows Anne Hathaway is their best bet. She is featured more in ads than Hugh Jackman or Russell Crowe. The academy will like the film more than critics I think.

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  187. Unlikely hood 3 years ago

    Phantom: I smell category fraud in Wallis’ future. Sup Act has a little room (since they’ll never consider worthy people like Doona Bae) and the Academy has been known to go one sentimental way on nominations even when the FYC ads go another.

    It’s almost like the LA critics were filling in the gaps left by previous critics’ awards. LA critics = spackle

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  188. Tero Heikkinen 3 years ago

    “The only bizarre winner is Henry for his over and weak performance in that stupid movie called Beasts something.”

    That stupid film also won the last award of the evening:

    NEW GENERATION AWARD: Benh Zeitlin, “Beasts of the Southern Wild.”

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  189. Jerry Grant 3 years ago

    Very happy to see a surprising and egalitarian awards list! Especially happy for Joaquin Phoenix and Silver Linings recognition.

    However, the big story here is the big loser: my #1 film of the year, “Lincoln”. Leaving it out of even Actor and Screenplay seems rather mean to me. Such an accomplished and beautiful film.

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  190. Hadi 3 years ago

    Where the heck is Daniel Day-Lewis?! he is not even a runner up?! go sc..w yourself LA critics
    LA critics must be the worst critics in the world
    their choices are unworthy

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  191. Chris Price 3 years ago

    That stupid film is also, still, the very best movie of the year. I’ve seen almost all of em now, Django, Zero Dark, etc. And Beasts still reigns supreme. Haven’t seen Amour yet, though….

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  192. Rg 3 years ago

    In my opinion, Jennifer Lawrence is overrated in silver linings Playbook.

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  193. g 3 years ago

    Good gravy! Amour and Holy Motors!!! Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  194. Fabinho Flapp 3 years ago

    If that stupid “Beasts” is one of best movies this year and a next generation symbol, I’m really afraid about our future.

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  195. Nic V 3 years ago

    Just a small little comment about Anne Hathaway’s runner up position. Pay attention the film that was noted first. Sometimes it is done alphabetically and sometimes [as in the past] the first film noted was the film that really pushed them over the top. Don’t get me wrong I like Hathaway a lot but The Dark Knight Rises is certainly going to help her this year. Then think about the fact that critics don’t vote for two performances they vote for one and I’d love to know the basis for throwing the additional performances with the one that actually won. Do they then go back and get a consensus from the entire group about including additional performances. I suppose my real question is that if she had to rely on one performance this year would she have been the runner up?

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  196. Antoinette 3 years ago

    Good for Amy Adams and THE MASTER. I still only saw half but I did make it past the handjob.

    If some of the movies don’t make it onto DVD soon I guess I’ll have to find sinister ways to see them.

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  197. Nic V 3 years ago

    You gotta love the LAFC for doing their own thing and awarding Amour Best Film. It’s so typical of LA to jump outside the box. Everyone else picks Zero and LA goes with Amour and then their runner up is The Master. I expected a lot of love from LA for The Master. I was hoping for something a little more different but it’s LA where the world is different than anywhere else in the country.

    I wonder if Spielberg directed a film called the Critic’s Awards if it would resemble the jockying around for votes to pass the 14th amendment.

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  198. Jacob Burns 3 years ago

    I’m pretty sure they said Best Actress was a tie between Riva and Lawrence…

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  199. helios 3 years ago

    Lincoln won plenty today but the real question is: where is Les Miz? Nothing so far other than an ‘online’ win for Hathaway.

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  200. Chris Price 3 years ago

    Overall I’d say I tend to agree more with LAFCA. Except this year I did like Zero Dark Thirty better than The Master, but I haven’t seen Amour, so I can’t say which of those two is better. Looking forward to it!

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  201. Robert A. 3 years ago

    “OK, I’m going to be the Grinch and just say it out loud : Quvenzhané Wallis is now officially a long shot. She was supposed to do well in the critics-stage but for some reason, it didn’t happen so even if she wins a few smaller awards in the near future it will be probably too little (no NYFCC/LAFCA), too late (Academy-deadline is a few weeks away).”

    I don’t necessarily agree with this. For one thing, she’s too easy to lump into the Breakthrough Performance category that some groups have, which she won with the NBR and the NY Critics Online. Secondly, we’re entering into uncharted waters with Wallis (due to her youth and ineligibility for SAG), so I think it’s difficult to dismiss her too quickly. Her age may well work against her, but she also has some very high-profile champions such as Ben Affleck. Remember that whether you get an Oscar nod depends largely on how many #1 votes you get, and I feel certain that Wallis is going to be getting some of those #1 placements from non-age-biased or non-Hollywood-biased voters. The question is, can she get enough?

    Cotillard has also not been showing up with the film critics–she’s been more absent than Wallis, frankly, who at least pops up with the breakthrough award every now and then. I think Cotillard has been more hurt by the critical vote than Wallis, in a way, because the embrace of Riva with several critic groups is positioning Riva as the foreign language contender, not Cotillard. Of course, they could still both get nominated, but it’s rare for two foreign language contenders to get nominated in the same category, and Riva seems stronger as a contender, at this point, than Cotillard. (With all that said, I expect Cotillard will pop up in at least some of the BFCA/Globe/SAG contests this week. But even if/when she does, I still think she’s somewhat of a question mark for an Oscar nomination.)

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  202. Curtis 3 years ago

    Beast got a lot of love today. It is also making a lot of top 10 list. I love it.

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  203. phantom 3 years ago

    Here, I made a chart of the awards so far, I’ll keep updating it regularly :

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  204. jessie 3 years ago

    I’m glad to see Jennifer Lawrence has finally been awarded for her performance in Silver Linings. Show me another young actress her age who has given such an incredible, witty, and smart performance. Can you imagine what her talent will be in her 30’s?

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  205. steve50 3 years ago

    Best Actress: Jennifer Lawrence, Silver Linings Playbook
    (runner-up: Emmanuelle Riva)

    When you guys correct this (should be a tie), can we please put age before beauty? It was definitely Riva’s day, after all.

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  206. Radich 3 years ago

    Nice chart, phantom. Thanks for that.

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  207. Yvette 3 years ago

    The backlash has begun against Lincoln. You knew it had to happen.
    The intense Q&As, Spielberg tearing up, DDL explaining “the voice”, the rapturous raves from Oprah, Whoopi, reviews and historians. Spielberg and Co. talked about their film with a sense of ‘This is important’ – an air of seriousness. Because, you know, it was serious shit.
    But some people, and some critics, hate that – maybe find it self-aggrandizing…
    I like artists who are passionate about the work and wear their hearts on their sleeves.
    But you knew some groups were going to reject it…..
    It won big – and prestigiously – in New York and Boston, but you knew LA would go for the sand-humping and hand-jobbing. After Lincoln, I was most looking forward to The Master, but found it cold.
    I’m fine with the BP, BD win, because after all, it is LA.
    But someone please provide a reasonable, detailed explanation of ANYONE over DDL….
    I’ve read fans describe Phoenix’ performance as ‘revolutionary’, ‘unlike anything I’ve ever seen’ –
    DeNiro, Pacino, James Dean, Brando etc….may have something to show you and I’m not saying its on that level…..
    But DDL created something unquantifiable.
    A fictional character gives you free reign – you can do anything. But creating something real out of a myth…..
    Put this way: I think DDL can do crazy (Phoenix), he can probably do bi-polar (Cooper), and he’s already done My Left Foot (Hawkes in The Sessions),
    But could any of those be Lincoln?

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  208. PJ 3 years ago

    ZDT still frontrunner but SLP is lurking.

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  209. Bill 3 years ago

    @Yvette, dont worry.. this critic society has no merit at all in deciding big awards.. people knew LAFCA would go differently..

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  210. OTIN 3 years ago

    my God, weird choices.. and they realllyyyyy like The Master, ughhh

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  211. helios 3 years ago

    Your comment is a perfect example of why this alleged backlash has begun. People simply don’t like it when they are told to kiss someone’s ass 24/7. They don’t have to agree that DDL gave the best perfromance. As I’ve said a million times, this is acting ffs; the best is entirely subjective. He is already considered to be the frontrunner and has won 4 out of 6 awards given so far. What did you expect, 6/6? Bigelow and her film won 5/6 except LA. They went for different winners which is how it should be. There are far too many great films/actors/directors etc. It would be unfair to ignore them and recognise the same people every single time.

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  212. SallyinChicago 3 years ago

    Am I the only one who saw a wonderful performance by Denzel Washington in Flight….yet he’s TOTALLY overlooked in the awards. WTF?

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  213. James Harris 3 years ago

    Actually, there was a tie for Best Actress. Riva and Lawrence tied. Lawrence did not win by herself.

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  214. helios 3 years ago

    Don’t worry, you’ll see Washington’s name on Monday, or Wednesday at the latest.

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  215. SallyinChicago 3 years ago

    Fabinho Flapp / December 9, 2012
    If that stupid “Beasts” is one of best movies this year and a next generation symbol, I’m really afraid about our future.

    Sir, you are entitled to your opinion, but I saw a wonderful movie.

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  216. matt 3 years ago

    Hm, seems like Denis Lavant is being pushed into contention with runner-up spots with two critics groups (albeit groups that are in liberal, coastal territory)

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  217. Hector Delgado, Jr. 3 years ago

    Unless P.T. Anderson is the first director in 23 years (Spike Lee, Do the Right Thing, 1989) to be named LAFCA Best Director and not receive an Oscar nom … whoever is announcing Best Director on the morning of January 10, 2013, will probably be saying …
    ‘ For best achievement in Directing the nominees are
    Ben Affleck for Argo
    Tom Hooper for Les Misérables
    Steven Spielberg for Lincoln
    Paul Thomas Anderson for The Master
    and Kathryn Bigelow for Zero Dark Thirty’

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  218. superkk 3 years ago

    yeah washington will definitely show up wednesday. hell get the critics choice globe sag nom etc. was never worried about him not being nominated.

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  219. JP 3 years ago

    I don’t think Best Supporting Actor is weak at all. It’s the most crowded category of the acting categories by far. Right now, there are probably more than 10 names that could get an Oscar nomination. Tommy Lee Jones, Philip Seymour Hoffman, Robert DeNiro, Leo DiCaprio, Alan Arkin, John Goodman, Eddie Redmayne, Mathew McGonaughey, Christoph Waltz, Samuel L. Jackson, Dwight Henry, Ewan McGregor, Russell Crowe…

    Best Actor, although very very strong, is down to 6. One of the 5 that are not called Daniel Day-Lewis will be snubbed. I guess it’s John Hawkes. The Sessions buzz is fading so fast. I get Kinsey vibes coming from it. In the end, Helen Hunt will be the consolation prize nomination. Just like Laura Linney was.

    Best Actress… Chastain, Lawrence and Riva lead. Wallis, Watts and Cotillard will fight for the last two spots. I don’t believe in a comeback from Keira Knightley or Helen Mirren considering that in such a strong year, the films the two represent are just not considered to be in the level of others.

    And what about Best Supporting Actress? Who gets the last spot? Something tells me Jackie Weaver will see the “Jackie Weaver” of this year get it: Ann Dowd. I guess Maggie Smith and Judi Dench will cancel each other. It could be Samantha Barks… there has been a film with two names here in 5 of the past 6 years. But they will truly have to go crazy for the film.

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  220. PaulH 3 years ago

    *says ‘whew’*

    Lawrence needed that LA win, big-time. The only thing I was suggesting about reverse ageism is that it’s happened before, when veterans are…I don’t want to say rubber-stamped, but have a leg up on younger competition. The other 2 reasons I was considering a J-Law snub was because the critics groups were going to clamp down on any more Weinstein wins (which was kicked to the curb today by LAFCA), or that they were somehow holding her Hunger Games success against her. The jury is still out on that one.

    Revenge of the Foreign Film, it was today (Amour and Lavant). Still don’t see them in anything except FL Movie next month. It’s a numbers game that keeps both of them out of BP, actress and actor, respectively.

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  221. Ryan Adams 3 years ago

    Great factoid, Hector. I’m gonna have to borrow and adapt that to tweet length.

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  222. Lysacek 3 years ago

    leading actress is a tie!!!!

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  223. Sarah 3 years ago

    Emmanuelle Riva wasn’t runner-up but the winner tied with Lawrence. Please correct.

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  224. Yvette 3 years ago

    You are correct. As much as I admire ZD30…I didnt want a sweep. Thats silly because it feels like a vacuum…
    True, ‘best’ is subjective….but I still haven’t an argument against a DDL sweep this year. Some things are just that good.

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  225. eclipse22 3 years ago

    happy for phoenix win, and very nice to see LA choices be diverse, i should check out Amour !

    its so annoying following these awards when none of the films are available in your area for viewing pffff and aren’t very likely to be available either way .
    It makes it hard to root passionately for any film in particular .

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  226. Michael Lewis 3 years ago

    If I’m not mistaken Les Miserables did get a Best Ensemble mention from the NBR. Don’t count it out just yet.

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  227. mattoc 3 years ago

    Congratulations to Riva Phoenix.

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  228. brendon 3 years ago

    Dwight Henry award has to be “for the film” — no person could actually believe that was the best supporting male performance of the year. It’s not even passably good.

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  229. Tero Heikkinen 3 years ago

    Still not fixed. Riva is no runner-up!!! 😀

    Leaving for The Hobbit now. I checked comments from IMDb and many Tolkien fans are now (after seeing these critics’ awards) accepting that LOTR was a special case and that The Hobbit does not follow the same pattern where all films are nominated for BP.

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  230. PaulH 3 years ago

    FYI, my dad died after a 6-month bout with stage 4 lung cancer. It hits a little too close to home, and I need not be reminded of such despair. He was the best dad a son could have. The silence every day he’s not here (my mom passed in 2004) is deafening :((. I don’t know if I’ll ever recover or be happy again.

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  231. Ryan Adams 3 years ago

    Thanks to everyone who tried to tell me that I’d messed up properly reporting the tie between Riva and Lawrence.

    If I ever make such a blunder again, please send me an email or bang a few hammers on my head till I notice.

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  232. Matt O'Callaghan 3 years ago

    PaulH, my adopted stray cat died yesterday from oral cancer, two weeks after my father-in-law passed away from the same thing. My father, who wasn’t the best father, but one of the nicest and gentlest people, passed away 3 years ago from lung cancer.
    Don’t stop living your life. You say your father was the best a son could have? That’s bound to make you smile again pondering over your memories.

    God bless The Father, The Son and the Holy Motors.

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  233. Tero Heikkinen 3 years ago

    Saw The Hobbit…

    Where do I begin? Feel like not saying much, but I give it 3/5 and I’m being generous. The film is at least half an hour overlong (maybe 45 minutes even) and the heart that was in LOTR is completely missing. Is it Tolkien’s fault? I have not read the book. Avoid 48fps at all cost… I will never watch a film in this ridiculous format again. Not the worst film of the year, but easily the worst theater experience.

    Visual effects are surprisingly bad, so I doubt its chances for a nomination now. It’s because of the accuracy of the picture. You can tell that a rock is not a rock but a piece of plastic or wood. Sound effects are good, so they made me at least think of rocks. I see a nomination there and that’s the only thing I see.

    48fps takes away from the illusion and I wonder why they didn’t see this beforehand. For example, Frodo is not the size of a hobbit but as tall as Elijah Wood is in real life (and he’s not overly tall, we know this). Everythig moves so fast that even when they doubled the frames, the viewer is missing half. So, many events just became a blur in the head.

    All sequences are overlong, to justify the third film. Should’ve been two 3hr films, for sure. They talk and blah blah blah, plotwise some 70% pointless stuff. And why so many songs? Should’ve just had that one we heard in the trailer. Which leads us to Howard Shore. One new solid theme and the rest is practically recycling. No nomination there.

    Man of us were right. This is a sad episode in the saga. They’ve been telling me that I should see this as a separate trilogy and not compare it to LOTR. Fine, trying to do that, but it’s pretty hard when Peter Jackson refers to that trilogy every ten minutes.

    Positive things are also there, but nothing to cry Oscar about. Martin Freeman is very good. Perfect casting. Ian McKellen is great as Gandalf, but was anyone doubting this? Cate Blanchett, Hugo Weaving and Christopher Lee easily forgettable. I don’t think I remember a single line from them (the film ended an hour ago).

    And yes, I gave all three LOTR films 5/5. Maybe this will get better in 2D, but I was trying to give my verdict on the film with that 3/5 (excluding the suckiness of HFR 3D).

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  234. steve50 3 years ago

    Thanks for the heads-up, Tero. You just confirmed my suspicions about the filming format and the stretch of a relatively small book into a trilogy.

    By the time they get to the third film, I wonder if maybe they shouldn’t have considered going long format on TV instead. Of course, it would then be compared to Game of Thrones which runs circles around The Hobbit with regards to plot.

    Overall, I think they made a serious error in execution for this one.

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  235. Tero Heikkinen 3 years ago

    The Benny Hill effect looks awful and unnatural. People seem like they’re sped-up.

    The first 90 minutes should’ve been 30 minutes, and I still don’t know who’s who even when they try to introduce everybody. The first part is full of ridiculous slapstick that is aimed for children, but the beheading scenes are not. So, who is this for?

    Gollum scene is too long as well. Way too long, but it’s still one of the best in the film.

    If 48fps is the future, as Jackson and James Cameron claim, I don’t want to live in that future.

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  236. Tero Heikkinen 3 years ago

    Oh, yeah, and the jokes. No-one laughed except for one of them. That was maybe 1/20 that hit home. All (which were fewer) LOTR jokes worked.

    This was just rushed. They should’ve waited another year.

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  237. Lkhn 3 years ago

    Oh DEAKINS!!! I so hope he’ll be nominated 4 an Oscar!

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