At tomorrow night’s Golden Globe ceremony you will see two competing Best Actress contenders likely win: Jessica Chastain and Jennifer Lawrence, who are in two different categories. These award shows can sometimes build momentum in one actress’ favor propelled by how well they do in front of a crowd accepting the award. Speeches can sometimes make a difference, though not always. Both are beautiful young women with very bright futures ahead of them. But we will likely end the night still not knowing who will win Best Actress and that’s because the state of the Best Actress race has suddenly shifted.
When Amour and Beasts of the Southern Wild were nominated in the Best Director and Best Screenplays categories, the chances for Emmanuelle Riva and Quvenzhane Wallis to win skyrocketed. The frontrunners are still the two bigger stars, Jessica Chastain for Zero Dark Thirty and Jennifer Lawrence for Silver Linings Playbook. The fifth contender is another potential dark horse, Naomi Watts for the Impossible.
My first instinct when I heard the nominations was to say that Emmanuelle Riva, the oldest ever Oscar nominee, is the biggest threat. But Wallis and Beasts is hard to resist. If you loved that movie you will love her in it. And if she won she would also make history as only the second African American actress to win Lead. In 85 years.
Riva, on the other hand, is 86 years old. One year older than Oscar himself and her birthday is on the day of the Oscars – she will turn 87. How do you resist that?
My money is still on Jennifer Lawrence at the moment, with Chastain right behind, and the reason for this is that if you’re going to make the long shot prediction you wait until closer to the ceremony. Lawrence is not only beloved for her work, her beauty, her humor, but she fits into that category that is irresistible for many voters — they want to give her character an award. This is where the irrational takes hold with the way the Academy votes. They get so caught up in the movie they believe, however irrationally, that they are awarding the characters themselves.
Let it be said that, to my mind, both the women rescue Silver Linings Playbook. The surprise nominee of Jacki Weaver was my favorite thing about the movie. She doesn’t say much but she has such a comforting presence overall and plays the polar opposite of the mom she played in Animal Kingdom. Lawrence makes what would be a fairly typical whore with a heart of gold into someone interesting, lively and unpredictable. The movie is loved by both men and women and doesn’t seem to settle better on either side. That helps her, to say nothing of her $400 million dollar box office smash, the Hunger Games.
Moreover, with FOUR acting nominations, Silver Linings Playbook is very likely to win one of those. If it isn’t Lawrence it’s going to be Weaver, De Niro. Cooper would have to beat Daniel Day-Lewis and if that happens the Academy will have to forfeit its credibility card for all time. That makes it down to the supporting categories and Lawrence. De Niro could so win this thing, by the way.
Wallis is such a threat, though, that there’s already a smear campaign against her. Remember that you can’t attack someone that cute and young directly so you have to attack them indirectly and the attack-du-jour appears to be that it’s “child abuse” to have let her star in the film and then run for awards. A laughable notion once you see the happy little sprite at awards shows keeping things in perspective, climbing all over Benh Zeitlin during photo shoots, a total ham. Having worked with children myself I can tell you straight up, that’s a happy healthy kid.
Wallis’ one of two performances that carry two Best Picture nominees. The plot turns on them and it has nothing whatsoever to do with their relationship to men. Wallis, perhaps some, because she’s the daughter of Dwight Henry, but Beasts is a movie about her imagination, her inner world and it’s a wow. A whole big lot of wow. It has been said that no skill is involved where she is concerned and that it’s the director who got that performance out of her. But I’d say the opposite is true; the director got out of her way to allow her to give that performance. That is why Zeitlin is a genius and why Wallis gave a great performance.
The other actress who anchors her film is Jessica Chastain, who takes on that rare leading female role you rarely see anymore. You just don’t see it. The fanboy/box-office driven entertainment industry has marginalized women to supporting roles, even when they’re leading roles. Jennifer Lawrence’s character, as good as she is, is a supporting role – functioning only to support the man. People always say well she gets something too – she gets the man. Yeah, that’s because it is a really popular notion that getting the man is all a woman should want. So Bradley Cooper gets the girl, too, but he gets so much more.
Chastain is “not the girl who fucks.” She says that at the outset and is the central figure in Zero Dark Thirty. She is the hardcore CIA trainee whose been bred to hunt down Osama Bin Laden. She’s been trained to withstand “enhanced interrogation techniques” and in the process lost a sense of identity, her own humanity, and any idea of where she might go next. Who is she, the movie asks us at the end? The most telling scene that toys with our notions of gender is when the detainee is stripped naked and has soiled himself – Jason Clarke leaves the room and even the Al Qaeda suspect believes that Chastain’s character should offer up humanity to him but she just says, tell us what we want to know and he’ll stop. It’s a shocker of a scene, especially in 2012. We’re tricked into thinking, because she’s a pretty redhead and a woman that she’s supposed to be “nice.” But she isn’t. She does the job she was trained to do, just as a guy would.
Will the controversy hurt Chastain’s chances? Without a doubt. She’s up against four more likable characters. She’s also hurt by the fact that it’s a procedural — and she has only a small handful of “Oscar scenes.” Anyone who’s seen her work from last year, particularly The Help, knows no one can do those Oscar scenes like Chastain. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, she’s the closest thing to Meryl Streep I’ve seen in Hollywood. I think she can do anything. If she doesn’t win the Oscar this year, she will have many opportunities in the future.
It is a story that isn’t going away either. Part of the phenomenon is the rise of protest groups and mobilization in the post-Occupy world where internet brings people together like never before and has turned the far-reaching Anonymous into a kind of people’s army. For more on this watch the Hacktivist documentary currently streaming on Netflix. They protested the premiere and they will protest screenings and you can bet they’ll protest the Oscars.
But let’s pretend, for a moment, that it wasn’t controversial. Could Chastain have won? Will she still win? I think she had/has a great shot at it. The only thing is, up against an actress and character people LOVE (Lawrence, Riva, Wallis, arguably Watts) it’s a little tougher.
Naomi Watts is overdue, to my mind, for an Oscar by now. Her great work in Mulholland Drive alone makes her overdue. She’s been kicking around Hollywood for years, even before she got her big break. But what Watts has that others don’t is tremendous support from some very big, well connected names. Angelina Jolie, Mark Ruffalo, Robert Downey, Jr. That’s nothing to ignore nor to sneeze at. Sometimes it takes a gated community village to get an unlikely win the win and this could finally be Watt’s year.
Watts gives a hell of a performance in The Impossible, with half of her leg torn off by the Tsunami she must find the strength to survive, for her family’s sake and namely the sake of her one surviving son, the BRILLIANT Tom Holland. Throughout the whole thing, you never doubt the authenticity of the moment and that’s due to Watts — she makes us believe that the horror is playing out before our eyes is real. And that could, at last, win her the Oscar.
Emmanuelle Riva probably gives the most accomplished performance in Amour, as she plays wife whose life fades away in rapid decline. She must go from functioning to not functioning throughout the entire movie and the frustration with herself, the anger at inability to even say a sentence is shattering. At 86 years old, Riva is in full command of her instrument, mind, body and soul. If it were me, I could not choose anyone else. But we know that other factors are at play in the Oscar race – star power, popularity and mostly how much they like the movie. Now that Beasts of the Southern Wild and Amour have those pivotal director and screenplay nods, these actresses are no longer dark horses – they are suddenly front and center.
Right now, I still think it’s Jennifer Lawrence’s to lose. But we’ve a ways to go yet, Oscar watchers. Stay frosty.
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Ah, I wish I was a part of this post form the get-go…the Best Actress race is (as usual) one of my favorite subjects to discuss. This year, it’s pretty insane and I’m happy that it’s not a clear Streep vs. Davis story.
Instead, they nominate a 5 year old’s performance.
SWP, you make a great case for her performance and you throw in words like gifted and talented, which no doubt you are right. Wallis is defintitely gifted and talented, she’s obviously a smart kid to know how to channel someone like Hushpuppy. But how much ACTING SKILL do you have at that age? Not sure if you’re old enough to have any, and that’s why some people are scratching their heads and being all uppity about this nomination. She got Marion Cotillard snubbed for Chistsakes (have you seen Rust and Bone?) and to say that Wallis, now 9 years old, deserves it more than Marion Cotillard (given that all the other four save for Lawrence deserve it, that’s what makes this category so good) is clearly missing the point as to why some people are surprised and kind of upset over it.
She’s a child and you have no idea how much Zeitlin’s direction helped her or not, but considering the fact that she’s so young you’d have to wager that it was a lot of direction. It was mostly instinct, and natural gifts for portraying some emotion. That’s Oscar worthy? Please, give me a break. Acting is a combination of talent & skill and all this Wallis nomination did was bring a lot of media attention and mark another history changer for the Academy. They got overwhelmed with emotion for the overrated Beasts of the Southern Wild perhaps, and ticked the box. Still, very undeserved nomination especially when you have performances like Cotillard’s on the sidelines now.
I just hope for a surprise. and Jennifer Lawrence’s winning would be the only case that is not quite surprising mainly truly because of the Weinstein relation.
Don’t get me wrong, JL’d shown how much talent she has and how exquisite she is comparing with other young actresses in “Winter’s Bone”. That was an absolutely stunning performance. Thus giving her an Academy Award for Silver Linings might feel more like a Reese Witherspoon win (who showed a better performance in, for instance, “Election” ), something that is not quite convincing, something that just happens to fit all the game rules.
Riva has undoubtedly the most difficult role. It must have been very difficult for her as a human being not connecting this role to her real life and age. But she not just overcame, she brought us through the film subtly the fading life of a lady with so much self-esteem.
I love Wallis. Her performance is a phenomenon. But I really do not love to see her win. It’d still be too overloaded for her age.
Sadly, I think it will be 1998 all over again in the Best Actress category. Cate Blanchett, who should have won the Oscar, took home the Globe for drama and, thanks to Weinstein & Co., comedy Globe winner Gwyneth Paltrow went on to beat her. That, to me, is in the running for worst “popularity over talent” display in history, with the biggest competition for that title being Julia “I wore a push-up bra and said the f-word a lot” Roberts beating the likes of Laura Linney, Ellen Burstyn, and Joan Allen in 2000. Disgusting. While I like Jennifer Lawrence, her work in SLP is not in the same league of that of Chastain, Riva, or Watts. But, on her worst day, Blanchett is about a thousand times the “actress” Paltrow is on her best. At least Lawrence has some talent.
Someone mentioned Fernanda Montenegro. She absolutely broke my heart in Central Station. Out of all the Best Actress Nominees this year, Riva gives the most accomplished, inwardly quiet and yet the role spoke volumes type of performance. I am utterly perplexed though at the lack of recognition for Jean-Louis Trintignant. He was brilliant in Amour. Absolutely brilliant.
Concerning Wallis: I’m going to go rogue here for a minute. If you’re a lazy reader, just keep moving…
Needless to say I’ve been a champion for this kid since the get go (meaning Sundance 2012) & I’m ecstatic about her Oscar nomination.IMO, she delivered a fantastic performance & deserves this. Props to her.
I think it’s absolute BS & sheer garbage on the part of many people here who assume (emphasis on ASS) that a 6 year old ACTRESS (remember that word people) cannot deliver a worthwhile or solid performance due to mostly talent & smarts. It chaps my hide that some folks just HAVE to be contrary & attribute her performance mostly to Benh Zeitlin.
Yeah, his direction was great; however, delivering such a beautiful, touching performance takes TALENT. Zeitlin could have thrown “directions” at her all day long, but without some kind of greater intelligence or insight, she wouldn’t have even come close to what anyone saw on that screen. That last scene where “Hushpuppy” watches with dignity bidding a silent “goodbye” to her father was sheer beauty. I don’t give a damn what the doubters say–I’m attributing that to plain talent & intellect.
Anyone that has seen “Nazie” in interviews should recognize that she’s not your average kid.In her audition footage it is crystal clear that she has something beyond the “cuties”.There’s a bit more depth of understanding involved here.
People need to understand that when child actors are being sought after to play a role with complicated emotions, they HAVE to understand. There’s no getting around it. It’s what many call the “X Factor”. It’s not about being just “adorable” or having coached precociousness. It’s about REALness. IMO, young Nazie had it, that why she got the job. They saw thousands of cute girls I’m sure, but she was able to stand out because of portraying reality convincingly.
Has it ever occurred to any of you who assume she was only “following the General’s orders” that Quvenzhane may just be *gasp* uh, SMART? Wow, gee Beav, guess not. I guess kids who are considered geniuses aren’t that intelligent either. They just happen to blindly follow the leads of smart adults issuing the orders because they’re not really smart enough to understand anything beyond “The Wheels on the Bus”. Ridiculous.
Was Jodie Foster “too young” or not “intelligent” enough at 12 to grasp the pain & suffering of prostitute Iris in “Taxi Driver”? Was Dakota Fanning at SIX (hello, can you hear me now?) not smart enough to portray the distress ,confusion & embarassment of a child being raised by & removed from the care her mentally challenged father? Of course not.
Children are, get ready you all: HUMAN, therefore, why shouldn’t they have the ability to portray these emotions honestly, without having to loan it to only “taking orders” from adults?They may not be as experienced in life as adults,but if they are gifted enough, they can portray difficult emotions just as well.
It’s plain stupid to assume that a 6 year old isn’t “capable” of translating emotions of pain, sadness, fear & joy all on their own, without an understanding & RESPECT for what their character is going through. If a young child loses a loved one, are they not distressed & saddened as well? Of course they can be. So why assume that they are “incapable” of acting out those emotions too—withOUT a great deal of coaching from grown ups.
To be honest, kids are some of the best actors on the planet. We see it everyday,but take it for granted. We just call it “pretending” on the playground, or “manipulating” Mom/Dad in the store by throwing a “tantrum”. Get the picture now folks? Whether one is 6 or 60, a great performance can be accomplished by the gifts of talent,intellect & understanding. Nazie has all of these.
Congrats to her. She’s got a bright future ahead—with or without the opinions of the doubters.
NAOMI WATTS DESERVES TO WINS THE ACADEMY AWARDS,THE SCREEN ACTORS AND THE GOLDEN GLOBES.
She gave the best female performance of the year, a real tour de force performance,she is much more better than Jessica,Jennifer or Emanuelle Riva.
She is the most underrated actress working in the movie business know a days,she finally deserves to win her first Oscar.
Thank you Naomi you made me cry with a so visceral and in other hand so subtle performance.
Never mind that 99.99999% of moviegoers outside of forums like this have no idea who the frak Riva is.
And since when does screen time became the sole basis to determine if the performance is lead or supporting? Many argue that Arkin’s performance in Argo shouldn’t even be nominated because of little screen time. But he made the most out of the few scenes he’s in… That’s why I think he deserves to be at least nominated… And yet Hopkins even won for Silence of the Lambs for the lead…
Jesus:
The two ways we have to gage cumulative review summaries are META CRITIC and ROTTEN TOMATOES. At both sites THE IMPOSSIBLE is doing very well.
At MC, the number is a solid ’74’ with 5 100% ratings.
At RT, the numbers are 121 favorable to 30 negative with a stellar composite of 80%.
Your argument in behalf of the film is very convincing and well-written.
You can count me as a huge fan of the film. It made my own Ten Best list for 2012.
The idea that Lawrence is supporting in SLP is laughable. Just because she is not onscreen for the first 10 minutes of the movie doesn’t mean she’s not lead. She and Cooper carry the movie, from the first meeting at Veronica’s house to that horrible ballroom dance routine at the end. The belief that her 2 hours of screentime should be in the same category as Hathaway’s 30 minutes makes no sense at all.
I had thought Lawrence was the front runner, but I’m changing my mind after considering the overall AMPAS support for “Amour” – especially the Best Picture/Best Foreign Film/Best Director/Best Screenplay citations.
Riva is the front runner, by a nose. Lawrence and Chastain are still so young and new to the industry. AMPAS may wait until they each have racked up some more nominations (which they undoubtedly will given their talent. Watts has earned her spot with great work over the years, but “The Impossible” not being nominated in other categories doesn’t show a lot of branch support for this movie, so I suspect she’ll be left in the dust.
It’s a very difficult race to call this year. Love it!
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/martin-sheen-ed-asner-join-411733
^^ This might kill Chastain’s chances
Sam Juliano:
The Impossible is way better than reviews are saying, only a few of them notice that the real value, the real themes of the film are different than what people is talking about. The film uses a real life story as excuse to actually focus and explore on the randomness of the struggle for survival. These people don’t do ANYTHING special that others didn’t do in order to survive, not to mention to deserve that the whole family is reunited. Some people criticize that, and it is why the film is highly unpopular with some groups, it’s an agnostic, probably atheist POV that is bitter to swallow. The film is also accused of manipulative and exploiting the tragedy. God, how much I wish this people saying this ever enter a refugee camp as I have done, then they will notice how shy Bayona was to actually show too much on screen. It’s soft compared to real life, ’cause the point was never to exploit the suffering but to analyze it.
On Riva, everyone is entitled to champion whoever they want. Riva can win, for sure. I said it’s a really open race. But she’s the most unlikely winner, along with Wallis. I think it’s Chastain to lose, Watts as possible spoiler and Lawrence as dark horse.
1. THE IMPOSSIBLE did not get “tepid” reviews at all, but very solid ones. Check out the sites.
2. Who is saying anything about the Academy “owing” Riva? That’s a bizarre way to frame it. People here are predicting that Riva might win. Are they allowed to do that?
This is the MOST exciting year in Oscar racing I remember in terms of not-locked winners. Save Anne Hathaway, that seems a pretty done deal, I don’t see a single cathegory that isn’t open or torn. Best Actress is probably the most f*cked up and all 5 women should be preparing the accepting speeches “just in case”. However, this is how the situation stands, in my opinion.
1. Chastain. She’s in a roll, Zero Dark Thirty disappointed in the noms and many people would make safe that the film takes something big, now that Best Picture seems a longshot. Given than Boal won for “The Hurt Locker”, when in doubt, no big worry that the ZD30 supporters may focus their efforts in voting for Jessica.
2. Watts. ZD30 disappointed in the noms, but The Impossible has one only chance to be recognised. Despite the tepid reviews (in my opinion, the film is closer to The Tree of Life, in spirit and makes a perfect double feature with its dark reverse, Joe Carnahan’s The Grey, which has been embarrassingly ignored on all levels), the film scored BIG support from key Hollywood names, and it is one that hits hard in the guts. Their supporters will also believe that rewarding Watts is also rewarding not only the film itself, but also her costars, specially Tom Holland who should have been nominated in Lead. How many times do we see a child become a man, believably, on screen, the whole proccess, taken in a couple of days “real time”?
3. Lawrence. The “it” factor, the big star being born. SLP has scored 8 noms and so, but, she’s reminding me tremendously of Julia Roberts’ 2nd nom, for “Pretty Woman”. It’s maybe too soon, for an actress that is aiming to be quite often at the contenders role call. Also, people tend to think of this as a bit of cathegory fraud, while the others (with the possible exception of Watts, pun intended) are obvious leads.
4. Wallis. She has a really good chance, even thought “Beasts of the Southern Wild” is a film that the AMPAS nor Hollywood actually CARES for giving it the Oscar winner brand, truth is, Wallis may be the best shot. Oscar LOVES shots like Anna Paquin’s acceptance speech, on the media. Increases ratings and Wallis seems to be the soul of the film.
5. Riva. Repeat with me… OSCAR DOESN’T OWE ANYTHING TO RIVA. OK? Got it? Right. IF they want to reward Amour, first they will give it Foreign Film. Then, Original Screenplay. Then, Best Direction. Then, Riva. Then Best Picture. That’s the order. They didn’t have a single problem to give it to Bassinger rather than to Gloria Stuart, in the most successful film of all times (11 Oscars and worldwide b.o. record back at the time). Do you really think Riva is going to succeed where Fernanda Montenegro, for example, couldn’t? It would be nice, but this is the kind of Mastrioanni (Marcello) nomination. European great actor that can achieve an Oscar nom in his/her resume at old age. Would it be nice? Yes. But this ain’t the European Film Awards, folks. REMEMBER THAT.
**She IS A FUCKABLE actress that these old 60 year plus White Men farts want to award for her looks or body, not performance. Think Roberts, Paltrow, Witherspoon, Bullock, etc. For this category, it is rarely about the performance, but a beauty contest. Last year was a rare exception–Meryl was long overdue and they felt guilty for not awarding her the years Bullock, Zeta Jones and Hepburn won.**
So Roel you know all these over 60 white men farts personally? You’ve spoken to all of them and they’ve confided in you? Ya just gotta love generalities. I know that there are probably a lot of gay men in AMPAS who wouldn’t want to sleep with Lawrence. They might want to help her buy shoes or pick out a dress but sleep with her? Ahhhhhhhhhhhh no I think a lot them would pass.
TR: With all due respect I did not see what DeNiro did as anywhere near Waltz’s turn in DJANGO.
If I were voting I would choose Waltz of these five in fact, though my absolute favorite is the un-nominated Tom Holland for THE IMPOSSIBLE.
But fair enough, we have our varying opinions.
Let’s be frank. After Amour getting five nominations including BP and BD, Riva has become the frontrunner in this category. Nominations show the Academy loves Amour and do not forget it is always very difficult for a foreign language film to get nominated for BP. This shows Amour is a first class movie on Academy merits.
Chastain was the early favorite but Bigelow failed to score BD nod and this is not a good sign – Chastain is out in my viwe.
Lawrence is very young and her performance is not leading the film and is not oscar caliber. Bradley Cooper is the main character.
Sato – I like and agree with your rankings; mine would be the same.
Riva
Watts
Chastain
Wallis
Lawrence
@Sam
I’d agree that Deniro’s isn’t exactly a bravura performance, but he deserves his spot more than Arkin and Waltz.
Cooper, on the other hand, was a revelation. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.
Funny thing…people complain that “oscar bait” performances get all the attention, then when Lawrence and (especially) Chastain give subtle-ish performances people say they don’t deserve the award and call them “nothing” roles.
Most of the time, all five performances in any category are fairly equal (with the rare exception of a Jackie Weaver or Jonah Hill who are pretty much filler), and the only way to decipher who truly deserves it is…who has been turning in great perf after great perf recently? Well that’s Lawrence and Chastain.
Riva and Wallis? This is Wallis’ first role and Riva’s first great performance in my opinion. Watts could also be deserving but I can’t exactly argue for her since I havn’t seen the movie yet.
Lawrence? Winter’s Bone, Like Crazy, The Hunger Games, and now SLP. All good/great performances.
Chastain? Even better…Tree of Life, The Help, Take Shelter, Lawless, and now ZDT.
If I were to rank the performances, it will be:
Riva: Changing ship now… Before I was rooting for Watts, but after I re-watched Amour and with this “oldest Oscar nominated actress” buzz, then I’m rooting for her….
Watts: Such a performance that will definitely pierce hearts out! And that is without all that loud theatrics of the other contenders… And I would LOVE her to win if not Riva
Chastain: The very center character of a well-accomplished movie… I also think that not every leading woman in Hollywood could pull off that subtle performance… She may not have that “Oscar scenes” but that scene with Kyle Chandler’s character is enough, I guess…
Wallis: I honestly thought that she doesn’t have much acting to do in the movie since her age perfectly fits Hushpuppy, but her presence in the movie is a force that made me think how bright this child’s future in Hollywood will be…
Lawrence: She maybe the love interest of Cooper’s character but I still stand by what I said that her character perfectly fits in a supporting role… And could definitely give Hathaway a run for her money!
Antoinette writes: “I can’t say Naomi deserves it over Jessica, but I thought she was good. I’d be happy for her if she wins. I’m still not happy about the campaigning for her. Now I’m at the point where I wonder why they think she needs their campaigning. It’s kind of insulting.”
Actors are making a point of singling out Watts’ performance because it’s obvious many had not seen The Impossible so late in the year and they did not want Watts’ acting to go unnoticed. I have no idea why McGregor and Holland have not received recognition, and the film could have certainly been nominated in technical categories as well.
I’m glad actors have said something about Watts because otherwise she might have not been nominated at all.
And you don’t think other actresses haven’t been campaigned for? Of course, they have.
True. Jessica Chastain’s performance is overrated, overpraised, and overhyped.
I would rate the performances:(I don’t care whether it is Riva or Watts at the end)
1.Riva
2.Watts
3.Lawrence
4.Wallis
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Chastain
Well said, Mel – people do bitch about “Oscar bait” and then gripe when an actor doesn’t fall into histrionics.
Fans complain that comedy is ignored. When it is included, they are dismissive (how is Cher in Moonstruck terrible?).
I think it would be cool to honor Wallis with the miniature Oscar they used to give child actors back in the day. She will not win mainly because of her age, which is excatly why they used to hand out those little guys.
Is anyone else reminded of Away From Her when watching Amour? Julie Christie was the supposed frontrunner that year, until Frenchwoman Cotillard “stole” it from her. If Riva loses, would it be considered ironic?… eh, perhaps if darkhorse Jennifer Lawrence nabs the Oscar with her performance in “Piece of My Heart”, a emotional Janis Joplin biopic.
How is a performance genius when it seems boring??? Chastain is was overpraised.
I have a feeling that it will be between Riva and Watts.
Having just seen Silver Linings, I really don’t think Lawrence gave the best performance of the year. It was just such a nothing role to me.
Riva is the most deserving, and most difficult, but they will give it to Lawrence in the end. This category tends to give it to the biggest “movie star” – Bullock, Roberts, Witherspoon, Portman, Theron – and Lawrence is the biggest star.
We do, and their names are Julianne Moore and Nicole Kidman.
OK, I think Chastain is talented. I just think both she and JLaw are overpraised, over-discussed, over everything. I know it’s “their year,” but enough. If only we could all agree that neither one is giving the performance of her life here.
Well, since Julianne Moore is still alive, I guess no one. Or are we not allowed to have two really good actresses with red hair?
What I really want to know is, who died and made Chastain the new Julianne Moore?
And is JLaw the new Helen Hunt?
They just feel like types to me.
The genius of Chastain’s performance was precisely that it seemed boring. She was steely and reserved. She did not reach for the obvious “female emotions” and she gave us a female character like we haven’t seen probably since Clarice Starling. People bitch about “oscar bait” but then that seems to be what they truly do want. Because she was not fucking and flashing her bod or wretching and crying and throwing fits during the whole film is was “boring.” I happen to think it was brilliant, she didn’t give a fuck about showing off to please everyone. She cared about her character and she rocked it.
Also You may not know this, but Dame Judi is experiencing the beginning of Alzheimers and I read somewhere that to remember her lines, she has someone recite them to her in an earpiece.
That is 100% untrue. She has macular degeneration, which makes you go blind. She can’t SEE the script, so that is why the lines are read to her.
I can understand if people think Wallis doesn’t deserve the award because you think she didn’t do a good enough job. But too many of the comments just refer to her age as the problem. Why does her age disqualify her from being worthy of an Oscar?
Once the voters have seen ‘Amour’, it will be Riva’s to lose. I’m fairy certain that Riva will start winning from BAFTA and carry on to the Oscars. I think Watts will take the SAG.
The nomination for Wallis is laughable. Plain and simple, it’s laughable. And people, get over Bullock winning. It’s over, it’s done, it happened, move on.
“Oh, and Sasha?
You should be ashamed of yourself for saying that the two women save Silver Linings. Bradley Cooper is brilliant and DeNiro gives his first good performance in I don’t know how long.”
Sorry to burst your bubble “TonyR” but Sasha is 100% right. And though I have always loved DeNiro, he is pretty much in late career mode here with yet another ‘Smirking Bob’ portrayal.
I agree. Claire Danes gave a much better performance in Homeland than Jessica Chastain did in Zero Dark Thirty but I think it was because she wasn’t given much. Her performance was overhyped even before the film came out. Her acting is only looking worried in her office, frowning, looking at her computer, and talking to her headphone while others did her job for her. I personally felt like she was overrated after watching the film yesterday.
“But Wallis and Beasts is hard to resist. If you loved that movie you will love her in it. And if she won she would also make history as only the second African American actress to win Lead. In 85 years.”
Sasha, I´m afraid of you!!!!!!!
You really scare me!!!!!!!!!!
I hope the nominated child is able to clean her butt alone, without being directed by the director and editor for this …
Now, let´s go to the pont. For serious adults.
I think Riva really could win.
But in a French movie and not being nominated to Golden Globes and SAG, it´s really hard.
Lawrence´s only problem is being too young. It´s her only obstacle.
I don´t see Chastain taking the Oscar. It´s too early…
But I see Watts winning. Ok, for her carrer. Anyway, it would be a “safe vote” and I think, after the nomination´s chaos, it´s all everybody needs…
Wallis is good, but it’ll be a travesty if she wins. She’s 9 years-old for fuck’s sake.
And Riva? Havn’t you people realized by now that the Academy favors younger women and older men? It’s Lawrence or Chastain, both of whom would deserve it.
Chastain a supporting role who does nothing? Get the fuck outta here with that nonsense.
Oh, and Sasha?
You should be ashamed of yourself for saying that the two women save Silver Linings. Bradley Cooper is brilliant and DeNiro gives his first good performance in I don’t know how long.
You want to see a “nothing” performance? Just look to Weaver.
daveinprogress:
Thanks a bunch for the response. I’m actually one of the few people out there that believes that no “bad” performance has ever won Best Actress (save for Marion Cotillard, don’t ask!), and I actually admire winning performance that are frequently crapped on, such as Reese Witherspoon, Gwyneth Paltrow, and Cher. I don’t think a win for Jennifer Lawrence will be the end of the world, as she fleshed out her character way beyond the contours afforded to her by the screenplay. But in a year abound with rich female performances, I can’t fathom how Lawrence is considered the frontrunner right now.
In regards to posts that criticize Jessica Chastain’s performance in “Zero Dark Thirty”, I’ll offer my reasons as to why I think her portrayal is so indelible. In my opinion, Maya isn’t a character as much as she is a blank slate upon which (particularly American) viewers can project their feelings towards the 9/11 terrorist attacks and the subsequent ten years leading up to Osama Bin Laden’s death. The film’s matter of fact, procedural approach to this subject appropriately reflects how our nation has become gradually anesthetized towards 9/11 due to it’s preeminence in our culture and the media; instead of effectively grieving 9/11, these attacks have become an integral part of our identity as Americans.
Many of the commentators here have insisted that Chastain has been given a thin character to portray, but I think this criticism precludes reasoning as to why her performance is great. Instead of laboriously grappling with the film’s subject matter, Chastain frequently REFUSES to grapple with it, and it’s this refusal that makes Maya so unnerving. As the film closes, following Bin Laden’s death, Maya is at a loss, contemplating or not contemplating the future she must now confront. This moment of indecision is a beautiful summation of our nation’s future following Bin Laden’s death, a fork in the road where we must decide whether or not to lay this baggage to rest for good.
I stil didn’t see ZDT because 3 movies came out here yesterday but I’ll get around to it. I saw THE IMPOSSIBLE. I didn’t want to, but my old Ma thinks Ewan McGregor is her secret boyfriend so… Anyway, it was a lot better than I thought. Because I haven’t seen ZDT, I can’t say Naomi deserves it over Jessica, but I thought she was good. I’d be happy for her if she wins. I’m still not happy about the campaigning for her. Now I’m at the point where I wonder why they think she needs their campaigning. It’s kind of insulting.
What I think is really upsetting about all of this is that the schedule has really taken any hope of fairness out of it. People are saying that ZDT doesn’t have torture in it because they found out just now. This propaganda has been raging for weeks when only a handful of people had seen the film. Now yes, all the people who vote get screeners. But you know as well as I do that they mostly go on what they’ve heard. If the word on the street is that the film condones torture and it doesn’t, that’s because the people on the street are passing rumors with no chance of seeing it. I think many performances and films have suffered from this schedule. What’s good and bad is only coming to light now, after the nominations and some actual awards have been decided. I’m of a mind that no awards and no nominations and no top ten lists should come out until January 1st of the next year. That’d make it a little fairer, imo.
Zach, in the immportal words of Travis Bickle “Are you talkin to me?”
I wasn’t making any direct correlation to any of the 5 nominated women this year – you did so! I was picking up on Christian’s earlier point and examples of how certain winners that were considered the ‘greats’ sit along side others who may have got their Oscars for their fame rather than for their performance. I chose actresses that I perceive to be regarded as examples of the finest of generations. And then some who i perceive were rewarded for their fame more than the ‘best’ of that given year. I also find your statement about Page ‘stealing’ Whoopi’s Oscar curious and that ‘we all know that”. Do we?
Time will tell on at least 3 of this year’s women. I fathom that few people had even heard of Emmnanuelle Riva before last month, and the percentage of child actors who are able to graduate to adult actors is not high. Lawrence and Chastain have bright futures, and Watts has lots of good work ahead for her too. This is a curious set of nominees pitted against one another.
Won’t be surprised if Naomi Watts wins out of nowhere. She has been struggling and acting for decades without any Oscar recognition. People like Robert Downey Jr, Angelina Jolie, Brad Pitt, Sean Peen, and many other powerful industry people are rooting for her because of this reason alone. It will finally be her time… or not. I just hope Jessica Chastain doesn’t win for that ridiculously overrated performance. WTF were people smoking calling her role revolutionary? Emanuelle Riva was also amazing in Amour.
People have a problem with Jennifer Lawrence winning because she had a “small role” but what about Jessica Chastain? I’m sorry but that was a small role with her character, Maya, doing nothing. Absolutely nothing in the film. Funny thing is she stood in the background during the torture and interogation scenes while the men dealth with everything. This also includes the actual hunt with appearances of an angsty worried Jessica shown every few minutes. Really? Is this what we are rooting for? This is a feminist movie? You’ve got to be kidding me. I will turn off my tv if she wins. She should win for a better performance not this one. At least Jennifer Lawrence gave an interesting, exciting, and out of the norm performance. I’ve got to say I was impressed what she did with what little material she had.
And when you bring out names like Vivien Leigh (both times), Bette Davis (both times), Meryl Streep (both times), Katharine Hepburn (all four times), and Susan Sarandon, newsflash, nobody this year is going to compare. (I’ll leave out Geraldine Page because we all know she stole Whoopi’s Oscar; Riva is this year’s Page?).
I was so excited to see ZDT until I saw it last night and was underwhelmed. I don’t care what anyone says but Jessica Chastain was a SUPPORTING ROLE who just stood around and did nothing. I don’t understand what people were going crazy over? The performance was so boring and not even worth an Oscar. Just hype and I agree with others, Jessica did a far better job in The Help. Also Noami Watts seems be the one who might end up taking that Oscar home.
As good an actress and screen presence as Jennifer Lawrence is, she’s not dropping dead anytime soon and could afford to wait a year or more for her win, rather than go the Helen Hunt route and (OK, other than Hunger Games) struggle to reclaim her Oscar glow for years to come.
You can say all you want about Cher, Gwyneth, Reese, Julia, and even Sandy in the The Blind Side, but all of those actresses had already made more of an impact on audiences over the age of 25 than Jennifer Lawrence has yet. I don’t have a problem with youth. I have a problem with the film and anyone winning from it. With the exception of Sandra and maybe Reese — who has still done better work in other films than JLaw has thus far — the other actresses all gave better performances than Tiffany in SLP.
(Sorry finger trouble) Vivien Leigh, Bette Davis, Katharine Hepburn, Geraldine Page Streep, Sarandon etc etc will also be in the same historical framework as Cher, Gwyneth, Reece, Sandra etc. We never get what we want.
But I love your description of Amour – can’t wait for it to open here.