Update: According to Jeff Wells, no final decisions have been and Universal is “exploring options currently.” The story appeared in the Hollywood Reporter and the studio is backing off.
Earlier: You’d think that the guy who was married and cheated on his wife and two young daughters would be the guy Universal would fire off of Snow White and the Huntsman sequel. Guess again. Who has to take the heat is the woman who broke Robert Pattinson’s heart. It would take bigger balls than these filmmakers have to stand by Stewart, what with all of that green flooding the box office from the Twilight fans who have rallied against Stewart and in support of Pattinson. The fear of losing that filthy lucre has them running scared. Nevermind that Kristen Stewart is the reason the film made any money in the first place. No way it gets to $150 million without her. But that was BEFORE. That was before the worm turned.
She was caught cheating. It is none of our business. But studios looking at the bottom line aren’t chasing morality; they don’t care if they come off as sexist because, you know, once there’s blood in the water, once the sharks start circling somebody has to go down.
The idea is that The Huntsman will go off and have his own story that doesn’t involve Snow White. He was really nothing more than a love interest, though, the least interesting character, whether eye candy or not. Knowing the public as I do, and know how fast the news cycles around, women ticket buyers probably would pay money to see The Huntsman chase after some other pretty girl, you know, one that isn’t tainted. They won’t make Kristen Stewart money, though. But it will be respectable. More importantly, Rupert Sanders can save face and move on. The story:
Universal has decided to shelf its plannedSnow White and the Huntsman sequel and is instead focusing on a solo Huntsman movie starring Chris Hemsworth.Kristen Stewart will not be invited to return if the follow-up goes forward.
Kristen Took the bullet!!! And what’s upsetting to me is that once again as history as shown the woman gets the brunt of the blame and the man walks away practically blameless. And whether people like Ms Stewart or not show a little compassion we all make mistakes . It must be great to live your life day to day without any lapses in judgment.
Why is it so easy to overlook the actual facts of Milgram experiment? Not everybody being tested went along with it. Fully 1/3 of the test subjects balked.
2/3 of the test subjects behaved like compliant sheep. 1/3 stood up, refused, quit. That sounds about right. 2/3 of humans are weak-minded. I’ll buy that.
If you wonder if you’re among that 2/3rds, I don’t want to have anything to do with you. I’m confident that I’m in the other 1/3 who says no.
Compliance is a fine film. I’m impressed by how gutsy it is. But I think a lot of you are taking away the wrong message. It’s not saying that we’re all capable of doing hideous things under the influence of group-think. To me, it’s saying, Look around: You’re surrounded by dangerous sheep-like stupidity. Somebody has to stand up to that. Be the smart person in the room. BE THE PERSON WHO BALKS.
Is it really so hard to be proud to say that you KNOW you would NOT accept a blowjob from a dim-witted intimidated teenager if you had the chance?
(ok, many of us have probably had a blowjob from a dim-witted person. Guilty, Your Honor! But not under any circumstances of 2nd-hand trumped up intimidation).
Kristen is a bad actress
Rupert is a bad director
Snow white and the huntsman was a TERRIBLE film, badly scripted, directed, acted, edited and scored
Its a sad day if this movie or these people get award recognition for this turd of a film
I hope this series goes down in flames so we can move along.
T.
@rufus, the problem is she is NOT playing a character…if she was there would be no difficulty in separating the two, because there are TWO…in Stewart’s case, there’s just ONE…and that one is Kristen Stewart….in every single movie, and outside of every single movie…its Static…it doesnt change…its the same thing…if you put the same rock into a different setting, did the rock all of the sudden change? No….its the same rock it always was.
Sewart is punished and Sanders not, and to me that is almost a irony, for being more important and meaningful to the industry (aka, female star of a profitable franchise) than a guy who directed his first movie.
I understand the words you use, I just can’t comprehend the meaning. I just find it impossible that you can’t separate the person from the character they are playing. In fact, I find it so impossible that I would place a wager that you are purposefully being ignorant just so you can impress people with how much you despise Kristen Stewart. Hopefully I provided enough context so you realize there is nothing nuanced about my opinion of your original rubbish which I am reposting here in case anyone missed it.
It was hard to buy Stewart as being pure to begin with, even though there was no evidence of impurity….but now…who the hell is going to by her as a snow white?
Rufus, you’re really bad with paying attention what is actually being said right?
How could i confuse her for being any of her characters when i specifically said that is her issue….she doesnt create the character…it’s always just her on screen. Kristen Stewart
Duh….Reading is fundamental, Comprehension is a requirement before you step to the god
We watched different movies as the Huntsmaan and the Queen were the ONLY things interesting about that story. There is a reason Kristen had 4 lines in that film. She can’t act. With that said though, the directing was awful and they should both be let go on pure merit alone.
So, WS, when you watch Snow White and the Huntsman do you think Stewart is going to forsake the Huntsman in favor of a vampire? When you see Kristen Stewart being interviewed on David Letterman do you think she could suddenly give birth to a vamplire?
Sounds like you are the one with issues here, not Stewart.
What happens to Snow White after the Queen is dead? Yeah, that sounds like an interesting question. I’d like to see that movie, and I’d like to see KStew come back for that role.
What happened to the Huntsman after… stop! No one cares! I want to see Thor 2, I’ll be there first weekend, but don’t try some lame-o spinoff.
If Universal is dropping KStew because of this, it’s their boneheaded error.
@rufus….
1. You must have mistaken a person’s character for their past experiences
2. Meryl Streep is an actress who creates the character in the film. She adopts a different physicality, rhythm, vocal cadence, etc. You do not watch her on film and think “there’s meryl streep.”
When Kristen Stewart shows up on film, she is the same she is in real life….you are constantly reminded that that is indeed Kristen Stewart before your eyes because she talks like Kristen Stewart, has all the mannerisms of Kristen Stewart…..and when you know Kristen Stewart’s character to be contradicting to what the story is trying to tell you, the notion is automatically rejected in your mind.
Stewart get’s fired from the sequel to SWATH and the director is allowed to stay? That’s completely and 100% fucked up. When I initially commented on this story I thought that both the director and Ms. Stewart were equally culpable. Stewart getting fired and the director being allowed to stay is FUCKED and pins the blame squarely on her shoulders. That’s not cool, not cool at all, and makes me want to string the director up by his balls. If anything, the director should excuse himself from the picture and work on his family and the relationship he has with his wife. F that guy.
You do all know by now that this alleged “story” is being dismissed elsewhere as complete nonsense? It appears we really are not back in the days when Ingrid Bergman could be banned from Hollywood for offscreen behavior [also known as life].
So when you watch Sophie’s Choice, WS, do you not buy Meryl Streep as Sophie because you know she was never imprisoned in Auschwitz in real life?
(To others out there, I know you can see the naked idiocy inherent in WS’s most recent comment. Me? I am just trying to figure out if the only films WS enjoys are documentaries.)
THis is not like you, Sasha, you blog about Oscar movies, not about tween gossip. Come back to the articles we’ve all loved for the past 15 years. thank you
sensible decision.
It was hard to buy Stewart as being pure to begin with, even though there was no evidence of impurity….but now…who the hell is going to by her as a snow white?
Thanks, Cinesnatch, I’m fine, exhausted a little, I had to travel a lot lately, but now I’m finally back to normal for a while…I hope.
Ummm “Nevermind that Kristen Stewart is the reason the film made any money in the first place”
Have you seen the guy in the picture at the top of this article. THAT’S the reason the movie made any money in the first place. Hemsworth is SCORCHING!
Phantom >> Your exhaustive, yet succinct run-down is what I come to expect from you. 😉 Thank you. Hope you are well.
Cinesnatch
Hi, there, long time, no read 🙂 I read a few ‘On the Road’ reviews, based on those, she could have ended up in the top5…but then this scandal happened, so now, I’m not so sure. Frankly, I think it’s ridiculous how actresses’ professional achievements can be ignored because of their personal lives. They share their WORK with the public, not their lives. People should be judging their films, not their life choices. I wonder how all these judgmental idiots would feel if they went into their little offices, did their job as required and then the boss would knock on their door saying ‘hey, nothing wrong with your work, but did you REALLY cheat on your boyfriend ? GET OUT!’. Anyway, I’m hoping the whole thing will blow over sooner rather than later.
P.S. My money is on Anne Hathaway, Amy Adams, Helena Bonham Carter, Sally Field, Kerry Washington BUT I’m really rooting for the terribly underrated Olivia Williams (Hyde Park on Hudson or even Anna Karenina), I would love to see Jackie Weaver (Silver Linings Playbook) back in the game, and as lifelong fan, I could never say no to Maggie Smith (The Best Exotic Marigold), either, even though she could do a scenestealing turn like this in her sleep, so I’m hoping she will get in the lead race with the ‘Quartet’ (all this Downton-hype definitely helps her stay relevant in voters’ minds).
Meanwhile, I think it’s perfectly reasonable to assume at this point, that Annette Bening (Imogene), Nicole Kidman (The Paperboy), Jennifer Lawrence (Silver Linings Playbook) and Reese Witherspoon (Mud) will be viable contenders, as well (Witherspoon got some excellent ink in Cannes and the reviews pointed out that it IS a supporting part), not to mention last year’s comeback girl, Kirsten Dunst, whose baity supporting turn in ‘On the Road’ could garner her a consolation nod after last year’s snub in the lead race…but she would have a considerably better shot IF Stewart got a lead campaign and then they wouldn’t risk cancelling each other out.
Also, we should definitely take into consideration a potential breakthrough nominee : Alicia Vikander (Anna Karenina) has a famous part and already some good cred this year with ‘A Royal Affair’; Holliday Grainger (Great Expectations) has the potential to shine, as well as Estella, not to mention Samantha Barks as Eponine (Les Miserables)…all three are famous, baity parts played by charming relatively unknown newcomers…I think one of them could get in.
No guts no glory material ? If ‘Les Miserables’ hits the right notes, Hathaway AND Barks AND Seyfried receive Best Supporting Actress nominations. Sure, the film could be a disaster, but for now it also has tremendous Oscar-potential.
Phantom >> Hi, old friend. I have Stewart as one of my Top 5 predictions for supporting actress. Bad/good move? Not sure it will happen. And, yes, I agree with you whole-heartedly! This may be the best thing that happened to her. Doesn’t sound ignorant (to me) at all. I didn’t much like her until a few months ago, when she started exuding a confidence and care-free nature out in public (some speculated she had a boob job; whatever the case, she looks fantastic), and didn’t appear to be so hung up on herself. I loved it! If her twit-hard fan-base was so shaky to begin with, it’s better that she ripped that band-aid off and move on. What I find indicative is: isn’t the final film about Bella stepping out? That’s what the trailer seems to indicate. This may be the most brilliant-reverse-“PR move” ever. Twilight put her name out there. And the scandal may have preemptively help put it behind her (before the last movie is even out!), which sounds ignorant.
Tipsy >> I can’t add anything more to Paddy M’s succinct response.
^ in a perfect world, rufussondheim, in a perfect world…which it’s not.
And here I thought the only people who saw Snow White and the Huntsman were people drawn to sparkly things and didn’t know how to read.
Silly me.
Now if we could only get Andrew Garfield fired from the awful new Spider-Man series (by the time they make the sequel for a 2014 release, it would be 4 years since his last non-Spider-Man movie!) and get him back doing Oscar calibre stuff…
– Those trying to argue that Kristen Stewart wasn’t the main reason for this film’s box office performance are probably either K-Stew haters or are thinking from an internet perspective. On the internet, Oscar-winning actresses and visually dynamic trailers impress, but to the general public, they matter very little. A bankable A-list star from one of the most lucrative franchises of recent times with a loyal (until now) fanbase can elevate a film’s BO performance considerably. Let’s think reasonably. Put a lesser-known actor in Kristen’s role, the film underperforms. Put a less talented actor in Charlize’s role, the film loses $5 million maximum in opening weekend.
– Snow White and the Huntsman was Snow White’s story, not his. Whether or not the rumours that the sequel would jettison her in favour of him are true, to lose Snow White from a Snow White sequel makes no sense. Indeed, the ending of the film seemed to set up the premise for the sequel quite clearly, and it placed her front and centre.
– Kristen Stewart’s private life is none of our business. Neither is Rupert Sanders’. I want to try to assuage people to stop talking about it. Unfortunately, in order to assuage people to stop talking about it, you’ve got to talk about it. I very much hope that this dies down as soon as possible – what happened has no bearing on my life and all this hot air must be having a huge bearing on hers.
Yeah, sure, writing about Amour (or any film by Haneke) was a nice touch. But to lump it in with Hope Springs to make it click? I rest my case.
It sucks Rupert didn’t get the axe on any official level quite yet, but I’m not surprised they gave one to Kristen. If they had to pick one to drop it would be her. I say that not because I felt she messed up more but rather her face would be in the movie, not Rupert’s. A couple years from now many people, those not heavily involved in film following, will forget what Rupert looks like and maybe forget his name. But Kristen has to live with this more BECAUSE she’s plastered in the public’s eye, just as much long before the scandal broke. So this all comes as no surprise to me. I wish her well but you know what? She makes more money than any other actress in Hollywood. Sexism or not, which I believe not, she’ll still be better off than most of the country. This is something to barely get worked up over. If sexism is such an issue I’ll point them in the direction of Kristen Stewart, who makes nearly 20 million a movie. She’ll be okay. It’s just politics and yes the studios will want to save face and money and that’s their business. If they’re going to fork over millions of their dollars then they should have the final say on who is in their movie. It is their right. People may see it as greed, however in any business the owner will always want to make good profit so they can continue making more business. If they feel dropping Kristen could do that then more power to them. These are the repercussions that she and Rupert will have to deal with.
“Without KStew, Snow White would have made considerably less.”
I`m sorry but the argument that she was the sole draw for obviously unimpressive boxoffice doesn`t make any sense given the fact that:
a) Snow White is a famous fairytale so surely some people would check it out no matter who is cast. Not to mention that Once Upon a Time is a huge hit without any Twilight star playing Snow White or other character. SWATH isn`t exactly an original concept where stars are the only selling point.Plus, considering that Mirror Mirror didn`t do big business either, maybe it`s just that people don`t care to pay to see reimaged, kick-ass Snow White when they cna get TV one for free.
b) many people said they would not see the movie BECAUSE of Stewart and the main topic of any SWATH conversation prior to the affair was “On what planet is Stewart considered more beautiful than Theron?” This was the main discussion from the casting announcement to after movie was released. Go figure why boxoffice isn`t up to budget and “star power” expectations.Sometimes people don`t want to go along with stunt casting of It Things.
c) Don`t Theron and hot-off Thor and Avengers Hemsworth count for something?
So since not all people who turned up for SWATH were Stewart fans, I`d say that number of Twitards who crossed over to SWATH must be very disappointing to Universal. $170 mio budget sans marketing that must have been well north of $50 mio considering aggressive promo blitz and not even $400 mio worldwide is very disappointing. Especially since Snow White casting had Twilight fandom in mind. So obviously many fans didn`t care for Stewart-not-as-Bella while there are people who were turned off by such lets-insert-It Girl of the Moment stunt. Drew McWeeny at hitfix.com explained it so well why this is such a non-news. The movie is hardly a franchise starter. It wasn`t a big hit if it`s a hit at all. Nobody`s clamoring for the sequel. They said way before the brouhahaha that they wanted to make sequel with The Huntsman only. I`d say it`s just cutting off most expensive cast member who failed to draw more audience from her other franchise. They wanted a big piece of Twi pie and ended up with crubmles.
That said, they should have been supporitve of Stewart instead of letting her go (which they seem to have planned already with Huntsman movies) at this particular moment. I guess it`s the last ditch attempt to stir some interest for this indiference-inducing movie. Shame on them if that`s the case, to use media obsession with that already stale affair as interest-booster.
Stewrat will be fine once Twilight abomination is done. She`s talented and sweet though not a star power some are making her to be. I agree she is more effective in indie movies but I liked her in SWATH. But that wasn`t an opinion-changer role. Those who think she sucks, thought so after seeing the movie, those who like her continued to do so. She won`t lose anything by disassociation from sequels.
The marketing and Charlize and Chris Helmsworth were the reason the movie did moderate numbers.
Right. And if the movie flopped, it would have been all Kristen’s fault, right? Please. I’m not really a Twilight hater, but seriously, let’s give credit where credit is due.
I don’t like Stewart. I never did. she should have been more clever and not to get involved with a married man.
I don’t understand the recent explosion of Kristen Stewart or Snow White and the Huntsman articles on this site, let’s face it, Snow White and The Huntsman isn’t going to be awards worthy (except for maybe effects or art direction). Stewart was not anywhere near the main attraction of the film (at least in my opinion): Theron was a lot better and the film was visually more interesting than the other acting (Hemsworth included). I’ll admit with the Twilight films I’m not a fan of Stewart’s work, but I totally dug her in The Runaways and Panic Room still (yes she was in a Fincher movie). I highly doubt a Huntsman sequel will be awards worthy, or be the highest grossing film of the year, it would be awesome if I was wrong though. On that note, how would you do a sequel to Snow White anyways, I don’t even think Disney has done that?) So why the recent burst of Stewert/Snow White? Is it as important to discuss as a shooting in Colorado, or the possible implications of a film that may or may not be about the creation of Scientology?
Stewart and Pattinson need to share Ice cream and talk or something, and just ride the wave to get through this media hype. Sanders (who may be fired or on board, there’s no certainty yet) is staying on because he’s not popular. Is he equally guilty as her, likely, but it’s not because he’s a man and she’s a woman, it’s because she’s famous and he’s not. To quote Jon Stewart ‘I know when you’re in a break up it feels like the world is ending, this is the first time I’ve actually felt like the world is ending because of a breakup’.
I agree this man should be treated just as bad as Kristen Stewart has been. but she shouldn’t be excused because he didn’t get treated badly enough.
Kristen Stewart seems to be better off with indie projects anyway, she doesn’t seem comfortable in tentpole-territory. She was very good in Into the Wild, Adventureland, Welcome to the Rileys, The Runaways. As divisive as the film seems to be, she did take the challenging, iconic part of Marylou in On the Road, and the general consensus is still months away, so who knows, she might just get some good ink there, too.
Peyton Loftis is a brilliant role, so if she can nail that in Lie Down in the Darkness, she will be officially established as a good actress rather than ‘a movie star’…and as ignorant this might sound, alienating the Twilight-fanbase might not be such a bad thing. I mean, would she really want to work forever under the pressure of pleasing a crowd that worships such weak films ? Probably not.
Bottom line : Her private life should be nobody’s business, thank God ‘Twilight’ is coming to an end and even more so that it made her filthy rich so she never has to take a paycheck role again and can focus on quality roles in quality films…hopefully she will do just that.
P.S. And if Universal keeps Sanders and basically fires Stewart a.k.a the title character, they should be utterly embarassed for their sexism. That being said, she is probably better off without ANOTHER mediocre franchise.
I only went to see SWATH because of Kristen, so i guess i’ll be saving some $$ on the ‘spin off’. Looking forward to Lay Down In Darkness!
I have no opinion of her one was or the other (in fact she looks good in On The Road), but Stewart was the worst thing about SWatH. The little girl playing Snow White had ten times the personality of Stewart’s Snow White.
That’s just typical !
…and I just watched an episode of The Brady Bunch. The one about the UFO sighting and Bobbie looks like a poodle.
…and I saw Beyond the Hills last Sunday. Worth a ganders
@Antoinette -” seen any good films lately?”
Yes, thanks for asking. Amour was a masterpiece, which I saw on Monday. Holy Motors was a hoot, which I saw on Tuesday. I will be seeing The Hunt on Friday and I’m super excited.
Hey, thanks for asking. You?
Also, Juila Roberts and Natalie Portman managed to nab married/taken men without the public turning on them. They were both certifiably bankable and likable. Go figure. Sexist reaction to KStew/RSanders? Not as much as it has been proposed. The Perfect Storm is a better description.
And when I say Law’s career hasn’t been the same since, I mean, Hollywood was trying to turn him into a romantic leading man and now, he’s getting work, but as a sidekick and supporting roles. And he hasn’t been nominated for any Oscars since 2003.
Snow White Budget: $170M
Snow White Domestic Gross: $154M
A film is generally considered profitable if its domestic gross makes 150% of its budget. Sarah at Cinesnark has made a very convincing argument recently concerning the such.
Without KStew, Snow White would have made considerably less. But, it’s laughable that studios actually thought they could turn a profit with a sequel that would 1) have budget that would likely exceed its predecessor and 2) would be sequel of a film that was not a runaway hit.
With Snow White, KStew showed “promise” that her brand could reach beyond the Twilight franchise and, indeed, it appeared that she was on the road to becoming a star who could headline and open her own film. Right or wrong, her brand took a hit, right as it was taxing off the runway. That isn’t to say she can’t still achieve her full potential. As of now, she’s a bit of a liability until this whole thing blows over.
I don’t entirely understand why the pubic (i.e. teenage girls?) have turned her into Hester Prynne, but she was an actor in the public eye who made a mistake some people don’t want to let her forget. Rupert Sanders is not an actor in the public’s eye, so he is not going to get anywhere near the attention, whether he was “more wrong” or not.
In 2003, Jude Law played the Rupert Sanders role and the public turned on him. His career hasn’t been the same since.
My question is: Is KStew still going to do Lie Down in Darkness?
My question is: Is KStew still going to do Lie Down in Darkness?
I believe so. That was only recently announced. It was announced after all this mess blew up. So the trouble was already well known. Scott Cooper doesn’t care about the gossip. I think they’re still on track for Lie Down in Darkness.
But 10 of your past 15 comments have been about Kristen Stewart.
Is that my metacritic score? 10/15? My comments have been on articles about Kristen Stewart but they’re largely not about her. They’re about people talking about her. There’s a difference. Most of my recent comments have been about how this site has changed from one that focused on movies to one that focuses on negative stories that have something to do with the movies. Now it’s this. A couple weeks ago it was the shooting in Aurora. As I said, you can change it all you want. But it stops your site from being unique and takes it into the land of gossip and sensationalism. Totally your prerogative. And as we’ve heard many times over, we can all leave at any time.
Most of my recent comments have been about how this site has changed from one that focused on movies to one that focuses on negative stories that have something to do with the movies.
I don’t really get the sense that you’re constantly harping on how disappointed you’ve been lately. Thank god. Because how annoying would that be? I do see you making wry observations and helping ease some of the tension when things get heated. That’s kinda nice.
Are you writing a bunch of comments that are a chore for you? Or are you writing because you enjoy offering your point of view? the latter, I would assume.
Do you guys flip through channels at home, find all the programs you dislike, and force yourself to sit there and watch them so you can seethe about it and complain loudly so everybody knows how much you hate it?
Do you go to the library, search the shelves for books that annoy you, march up the librarian to complain, telling her if those one or two books remain in the library then you’re going to give up and stop coming?
Do you go to a restaurant, wander around from table to table until you find a dish being served that’s not your cup of tea, sit down across from the people who ordered it, the patrons who are enjoying it, and tell them about the low regard you have for their taste buds?
Or do you watch the TV shows you like, read the books you like, eat the fucking food you like, and pass by all the other things that you’re not interested in?
Wouldn’t it be a huge waste of your time to spend hours talking about all the things you hate when you could be having fun reading, watching and eating things you appreciate?
Because guess what. The Library, The Restaurant, and The TV Networks don’t exist to please you and you alone. They try to offer something for everybody, and plenty of guests know how to pick the things they like and enjoy themselves instead of embarking on a futile mission to tell the chef, the librarian and the network execs how to conduct their own lives and run their own show.
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And as we’ve heard many times over, we can all leave at any time.
Who said that? I’m not saying get lost, get out. I’m saying why not go join a discussion about another subject. There are 150 other topics to choose from, this month alone.
Ryan himself beat me to it. It’s Sasha’s and Ryan’s page. Their interests and opinions drive this page. Free speech permits a variety of opinions to be expressed.
I’ll just chime in and say if Stewart is knocked off, same thing should happen to Sanders. WILL it happen? Hard for me to guess. My money, if I wasn’t so poor, would be on Sasha’s thoughts.
“Dawn / August 14, 2012
Kristen Stewart is a horrible actress. The casting couch was her only way to win parts. Give her the Razzie for the last Twatlight and stage exit right. This girl is not worth defending nor is this some big feminist issue. Rupert Sanders is a pig but she chose him over her future. Deal with it. Pick a more worthy crusade Sasha.”
Precisely!
Here’s an idea. Anyone who doesn’t have any interest in Kristen Stewart is invited to leave this page and stop talking about her.
Most of us were talking about Sasha. You’re right, Ryan. We weren’t talking about Kristen. If Kristen Stewart continues to sabotage herself I couldn’t care less. But Sasha always seemed like a good person and I’d hate to see her do the same. That’s what the hints and warnings have been about if neither of you have caught on. She’s trying to generate traffic to her site because she’s a business woman. She’s told us as much many times over. That’s why she keeps creating topics like this. We understand. But if she loses sight of why she started this then maybe she’ll get money but lose integrity and who knows what then. I think some of us were trying to be subtle about it, but if you want to make us say it plain, there you are. There are a bazillion gossip sites and she can turn this one into one as well. But it’s probably best in the long run to stay different.
Thanks for the free psychoanalysis.
I write about things that interest me. Sasha does the same.
You think we like to attract celebrity hounds and provoke complainers? You’re wrong about that.
When I go to Jeff Wells’ site if I see a topic that bothers me, I skip it.
^
That is a lie. I don’t skip posts that infuriate me. I dive in and tell Jeff what I think about his focus of attention. Sometimes I enjoy that.
Same as you’re doing, Antoinette. There are 5 other topics today. You dropped in on 2 or 3 of them. That’s great. That’s fine. Always good to see you.
But 10 of your past 15 comments have been about Kristen Stewart. Your comments about Kristen Stewart outnumber mine. That’s fine too. Your sense of humor is sharper when you’re somewhat irritated.
🙂
The Enduring Flame: Love in the time of Old Age
That’s one of my favorite pieces all month long. Insightful touching thought-provoking. — 18 comments.
Some of you stopped by there to write 10 words in response. Wow. A fraction of the time and energy you’ve spent in the two topic about Kristen Stewart.
Go congregate in other topics, why don’t you? What kind of guy thinks he can control a woman’s behavior by complaining and threatening her? What kind of guest gripes about 2 things he’s not happy about and never has a kind word of encouragement about the 50 other things a host offers every week?
Actually, far as I’m aware the only reason people saw Snow White and the Huntsman was because of Charlize Theron…but I know myself and many others who avoided it because of the unattractively terrible stoner actress who’s now also a cheater/homewrecker…
I know you have been here a while, so you should know that Sasha is very much focused on how politics, culture, and society converge within film and its industry. You may not find it interesting, but there is something culturally relevant about the way Stewart is being depicted in the media following this event that is very much indicative of American culture.
Dude nailed it. The Ryan doubled penetrated it.
Here’s an idea. Anyone who doesn’t have any interest in Kristen Stewart is invited to leave this page and stop talking about her.
I’d be curious to know what you think about the Seven Psychopaths trailer. Or you could go say something about the Event Movie that made the biggest impact on you. Or you could go discuss the Supporting Actor category.
Those are other things that were posted on the site today.
oh my god, a business is trying to make (gasp) money?!?! why do i get the feeling if sanders were a woman and stewart were a man sasha wouldn’t care that this happened? hell, i bet she’d praise the decision for studios catering to the female director for once rather than the male star.
So anyway, Tero and julian. Seen any good movies lately? I didn’t like THE BOURNE LEGACY as much as I love Jeremy Renner. It was just a lot of running and jumping. I do look forward to THE EXPENDABLES II. I just love me some old white guys. Dolph is going to be on Jimmy Fallon tonight apparently. That should be fun. I don’t remember seeing him on a talk show before, even back in the day.
What are you guys up to?
Here’s an idea. Anyone who doesn’t have any interest in Kristen Stewart is invited to leave this page and stop talking about her.
I’d be curious to know what you think about the Seven Psychopaths trailer. Or you could go say something about the Event Movie that made the biggest impact on you. Or you could go discuss the Supporting Actor category.
Those are other things that were posted on the site today.
But I understand you’re all magnetically trapped here in Kristen Stewart bondage. So I’ll unlock the chains and you’ll be free to roam around to any other topic, ok?
Ready? Alright, I shut the electromagnet off. KStew hostages released!
In two weeks we will know whether this thing was relevant or not. Exactly two weeks, to the day.
@Tero : There have been two articles and one video, does that really mean this site is turning into a gossip rag? I just do not understand why people on this site are so prone to hyperbole. Yes there have been two stories in one week, but there have also been 18 other posts about movies. Also, by reading the two pieces by Sasha it seems obvious, to me, neither are about generating traffic, more her own frustration at the situation. I know you have been here a while, so you should know that Sasha is very much focused on how politics, culture, and society converge within film and its industry. You may not find it interesting, but there is something culturally relevant about the way Stewart is being depicted in the media following this event that is very much indicative of American culture. This is made only more obvious when seen alongside American commentators for the Olympics. Sexism and the media is a powerful thing and Sasha is right to critique (attack) it, especially in terms of the film industry, you know, because this is a film site.
Kristen Stewart is a horrible actress. The casting couch was her only way to win parts. Give her the Razzie for the last Twatlight and stage exit right. This girl is not worth defending nor is this some big feminist issue. Rupert Sanders is a pig but she chose him over her future. Deal with it. Pick a more worthy crusade Sasha.
Best thing that could happen to her career in the long run, to shed all those vacuous, shallow and judgemental Twilight groupies. They’ll move on and so will she – without having to pander to their tastes. Worked for Ingrid Bergman and it’ll work for KS. The world hated Liz when she stole the greaseball from Debbie and Angie is still recovering.
Patts will find another place to dip his wick and nobody is going to remember the director whatsisname unless he makes a half decent film, in which case this could come back and bite him on the ass (“isn’t he the guy who…?).
God, now Stewart might even have the opportunity to do a film I’d actually want to see (On the Road excluded).
I hate Twilight, I love Jaws (6 words that say it all).
With a Jaws blu-ray all is definitely fine, Tero.
But I think it is very true what you said up above. This Kristen Stewart crusade of Sashas’ will definitely increase traffic on AD, but people like you and me (and other regulars) will leave pronto if this continues. Or else feel completely estranged.
People seem to be ignoring the fact that Sanders still isn’t officially directing this. I highly doubt he’ll get the job, they just haven’t announced it at the same time to avoid added drama.
Julian, all is fine. I am watching my Jaws Blu-ray.
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“Meyer said it is important to develop franchise movies because they have brand recognition, which makes them easier to explain to potential ticket buyers and less expensive to market (since the audience already knows the brand)…. Meyer said that while the upcoming Snow White and the Huntsman doesn’t appear to lend itself to a sequel, Universal thinks it can do more movies based on the character of the Huntsman (Chris Hemsworth) if it is successful.”
What it should have said in that last line: “It sure ain’t pretty” (but I guess most of you figured that out).
“I will personally boycott every movie Rupert Sanders is involved in until studios stop giving him a free pass.” – Directors always get away with sh*t like this because they’re behind the camera. Michael Bay and Roman Polanski are just a few of the more notable examples. Actors just don’t get the same pass because they represent the image/brand of the movie and are expected to look/behave a certain way. This is doubly so for actresses. Unfair, but that’s the way it is.
This is getting pathetic, Sasha. Real pathetic.
I agree with Tero. If this is the road you are taking, I am done with this site.
What you are doing at the moment is very obvious and not a little discouraging: You are applying your own personal political agenda on most everything, now even with the added spice of gossip stuff.
It sure ain’t not pretty.
No matter how much of a heartthrob Hemsworth is, this movie got funding because of Kristen Stewart. They didn’t need to market & sell her as Snow White because her fanbase was already onto everything about the movie.
All in all this is disgusting & I hope things work out before my daughter gets older. People forget this young woman is well young she is going to make mistakes, but her private life is hers. Whomever came up with the idea that if you loved acting, you have to love being stalked is full of it.
That’s a dumb statement.
You’re a dumb statement. 😛 Expecting Hollywood to do the right thing is as futile as expecting rain to fall up. My point was for Sasha to stop putting herself through the ringer over this. No one needs to stress out over this except the people involved IF they even are. And they probably aren’t. It’s showbiz, folks. They’re all acting.
What the hell is this “when she kills herself” stuff? Everyone isn’t that emo. Maybe some of you guys are young and are at that ‘everything is the end of the world’ stage in your life. But as you grow up you realize people can withstand a lot. The girl is still rich, young and has her health, as far as we know. She’s ahead of the game even if she never worked in that town again. She’s the 1%. She can buy happiness until she’s happy again. Worry about your own problems. She doesn’t need you.
From a money standpoint though, you could see Stewart as damaged goods and Hemsworth is pretty damn huge right now.
Somehow I feel Sanders will not return, that would just be so fucking blatant, but let’s see!
sasha what is up with this tweet? “I got it. The Huntsman comes out of the closet and falls in love with Robert Pattinson as a prince. Fans satisfied? Uni makes bank?” it sucks that universal did this to her, but why are you dragging robert pattinson’s name into this? he didn’t do anything.
I did touch this, because the last one with Kristen Stewart in the topic got over 300 comments the last time I checked. Academy Award live show gets 600. Really pisses me off, this comparison.
Thank you Sasha for being fair and not letting HW pigs intimidate you. When
this girl kills herself I guess everyone will find someone to point the finger to
but they won’t be able to do it to those who spoke up like you.
Yeah. Not my topic – so I should stay away. But there have been too many IMO. It was Twilight related, so I never read a word, but I can see now that Kristen Stewart is the bad guy here.
Mel, if I’m ever mean to someone, I don’t really mean it.
I can only dislike a person I have met. I have sympathy for Hitler, because I never met him personally. Maybe he was a good guy who did bad things? Oh, well. Probably not.
For your own benefit, Sasha, stop expecting Hollywood to “do the right thing”. You’re only setting yourself up to be severely disappointed.
That’s a dumb statement. Why would she stop wanting them to do the right thing? People not expecting and accepting and letting them get away with all their bullshit has gotten us nowhere. Sasha should keep on keepin on….bitch, bitch and bitch some more. Someone has to do it. And I hope she never becomes someone who doesn’t care and just glibly writes about Hollywood or the Oscars b/c we sure as hell have enough of that. Her is a unique voice, why would you want her to be anything else?
You have never directly insulted me, but I think I asked you to stop once when you were mean to someone else. It amuses me most of the time. I just thought it was funny you threatened to leave. I’m sure you are kind and I have seen you be kind and funny and warm as well. Just making a joke. I don’t want you to leave, I just want you to stop threatening it and skip the topics you do not like and stay.
I don’t know why this story bothers you so much Sasha but you had to know this was probably going to happen. She pegged herself as trouble with the apology. People like to avoid trouble. Simple as that. Studio execs and directors and men of power may want some young starlet who’ll sleep with them but the tally on how many want one who’ll rat them out is exactly zero.
Yes she did bring Twilight fans to this franchise when they were her fans. But are they still her fans? She’s probably lost a big chunk of them right now. I doubt if they’ll come back. And the fact is that character is called Snow White. You know, pure as the driven snow. I mean there was no way she would be asked back. How could they do it without being laughing stalks? And before any of this happened everyone who saw SNOW WHITE AND THE HUNTSMAN was talking about one woman, Charlize Theron.
For your own benefit, Sasha, stop expecting Hollywood to “do the right thing”. You’re only setting yourself up to be severely disappointed.
If you knew me, Mel… I’m actually a very nice person. You just don’t know it.
I insult everyone? No. I don’t. Only stupid people. Like myself – hell, I would insult myself all the time (and actually I do).
Apparently I have insulted you then. I do remember one bit. Overreaction goes both ways.
Yeah, stop it or Tero will stop coming in here and insulting nearly everyone he interacts with!
Aside: If Sanders is indeed kept on the project, holy fucking shit, how transparent Hollywood doesn’t mind being!
Didn’t we already know they were most likely planning a Huntsmen spin-off rather than a second Snow White movie?
Stop this whole thing already. I don’t know who cheated who, but who gives a flying fuck? I will never understand Americans, that’s for sure. That is a private matter, not for US to discuss.
I will not come back to this website if gossip will be the #1 thing.
How about MOVIES? I know, traffic is one thing, but you’ll lose your regulars with this.
“Nevermind that Kristen Stewart is the reason the film made any money in the first place.”
This comment needs to stop. The marketing and Charlize and Chris Helmsworth were the reason the movie did moderate numbers. Kristen’s independent movies flop worse than ordinary independent movies. What Universal did sucks and Rupert Sanders should have been fired before considering firing Kristen Stewart but the movie could have made more without her involvement and a better actress. Universal’s promotion of the movie tried to make people forget Kristen was in it by focusing on The Queen and the Huntsman.
I will personally boycott every movie Rupert Sanders is involved in until studios stop giving him a free pass.
Let’s look at some facts. The first trailer of Snow White and the Huntsman featured Charlize Theron heavily. It showed a few images of Stewart, but it didn’t give her a single line. The second trailer focused heavily on Theron again, with a few scenes with Hemsworth and Stewart (again, though, not a whole lot of dialogue). The film looked to be riding on the factor that it had a wonderful Theron hamming it up as a Queen with a striking production design/special effects. In no way did this film JUST ride on the fact that Stewart was the lead. In fact, by judging those two trailers, it seemed like her performance in the film was little more than an after thought for her and for the film makers. Replace her with someone like Amanda Seyfried or Mia Wasikowska and no one would of really cared. It would of probably made the same amount of money. Perhaps it would of made more (the film wasn’t the biggest box office hit).
It hasn’t been announced yet whether or not Sanders will get the job. I’m thinking he’ll get the axe too, unless I’m missing something here.
Not as surprised as I should be, I guess. The only thing I hold out hope for is that Kristen is still in the running for Lie Down in Darkness, if that film is indeed being made. It could potentially be a fantastic role in a fantastic film. Here’s hoping.