BEST FILM
- THE REVENANT Steve Golin, Alejandro G. Iñárritu, Arnon Milchan, Mary Parent, Keith Redmon
BEST DIRECTOR
- THE REVENANT Alejandro G. Iñárritu
LEADING ACTRESS
- BRIE LARSON Room
LEADING ACTOR
- LEONARDO DICAPRIO The Revenant
SUPPORTING ACTRESS
- KATE WINSLET Steve Jobs
SUPPORTING ACTOR
- MARK RYLANCE Bridge of Spies
ADAPTED SCREENPLAY
- THE BIG SHORT Adam McKay, Charles Randolph
ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY
- SPOTLIGHT Tom McCarthy, Josh Singer
OUTSTANDING DEBUT BY A BRITISH WRITER, DIRECTOR OR PRODUCER
- NAJI ABU NOWAR (Writer/Director) RUPERT LLOYD (Producer) Theeb
OUTSTANDING BRITISH FILM
- BROOKLYN John Crowley, Finola Dwyer, Amanda Posey, Nick Hornby
CINEMATOGRAPHY
- THE REVENANT Emmanuel Lubezki
EDITING
- MAD MAX: FURY ROAD Margaret Sixel
ORIGINAL MUSIC
- THE HATEFUL EIGHT Ennio Morricone
ANIMATED FILM
- INSIDE OUT Pete Docter
FILM NOT IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE
- WILD TALES Damián Szifron
DOCUMENTARY
- AMY Asif Kapadia, James Gay-Rees
COSTUME DESIGN
- MAD MAX: FURY ROAD Jenny Beavan
PRODUCTION DESIGN
- MAD MAX: FURY ROAD Colin Gibson, Lisa Thompson
SOUND
- THE REVENANT Lon Bender, Chris Duesterdiek, Martin Hernandez, Frank A. Montaño, Jon Taylor, Randy Thom
SPECIAL VISUAL EFFECTS
- STAR WARS: THE FORCE AWAKENS Chris Corbould, Roger Guyett, Paul Kavanagh, Neal Scanlan
MAKE UP & HAIR
- MAD MAX: FURY ROAD Lesley Vanderwalt, Damian Martin
BRITISH SHORT FILM
- OPERATOR Caroline Bartleet, Rebecca Morgan
BRITISH SHORT ANIMATION
- EDMOND Nina Gantz, Emilie Jouffroy
THE EE RISING STAR AWARD (voted for by the public)
- JOHN BOYEGA
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Wow this thread is the most commented on thread on AD in 2015?
Well, if The Revenant wins Best Picture, it will break at least one major stat: never before has a painographic movie won an Oscar.
LOL. Love that. So true. Its torture porn. If it wins, it will be the worst to do so since Crash. I think it also has the lowest metacritic rating since Crash, and is #8 among this year’s nominees (non-nominee Carol’s rating is higher than any nominee, even Spotlight…I think, haven’t double-checked).
I love ”The Revenant,” but I can see how its detractors think it was shot in Pain-avision. 😉
I think 12 Years a Slave was pretty painographic. But I guess there was a point to that movie, which is absent from Revenant.
You’re right.
12 years was a little painographic.
But AGI takes it to a whole new level here.
By the way, I’m not an AGI hater. I don”t dislike Birdman and 21 Grams, for instance.
Completely disagree. TR is a movie about survival in the wilderness.. What would you expect to see under those cicumstances? It had to be raw, violent. How else was it going to be immersive and true to the kind of experience? I even read somewhere that the movie could have been more realistic just because Leo didn’t shit on screen once. Imagine that!
you are defending it only because it was nominated..if it was released in may 2015 we wouldnt have this conversation….speaking of raw and violent…how did he survive fall off the cliff ?? how did he cure his ankle after bear attack ??
My point is that people don’t care about survival in the wilderness as much as the injustices of humankind. Viewers are willing to “sacrifice”, endure the torture in, 12YAS because it serves justice.
Box office says otherwise though.
So not true of course star wars will top box office and yet has less nominations than room and carol
So there is no injustice depicted in The Revenant? I could swear there was injustice shown towards the native Americans, not to mention the natural world.
If so, the point is rather too subtle for AMPAS voters, and frankly, not something they’d care much at this moment in time. My estimation.
Wrong again.
You obviously love TR, and that’s your prerogative. But my comments aren’t about personal feelings toward TR but rather what I’ve gathered the AMPAS voters would feel, based on their past tastes. So unless you’re an AMPAS voter who has communicated with many other AMPAS voters, you can’t say I’m wrong.
maybe if he had sponsors dropping him stuff to help him survive in the wilderness like a ready made kit in the hunger games
Lots of movies involve pain. Physical, psychological, spiritual. It’s all in Shakespeare. There’s absolutely a point to The Revenant or people would not respond to it at all.
In Shakespeare pain is caused by man. In TR it was mostly caused by nature, which wouldn’t resonate as much.
Your statement is fairly ridiculous. Oh well. It resonated with me very much.
The golden globes , basically decides who wins from there on out as I noticed if your shut out there expect to be shut out the rest of the awards season
The Big Short could still win Best Picture. But it would be called a surprise win, a la Shakespeare in Love. Indeed, the parallels with Saving Private Ryan and The Revenant are strong. (Though Saving Private Ryan is a far greater film than The Revenant.) They are both stunning directorial feats by directors who had already recently won BP/BD Oscars. The feeling that the director did not need to be awarded again, plus a more personal attachment to the other film (emotional to Shakespeare in Love, and political to The Big Short) could push the underdog to win. Another possible parallel could be 12 Years a Slave when Gravity was due to win Director and all the technicals. But 12 Years was still considered the favorite, and for good reason. The Big Short winning would be a bigger surprise.
Another thing to consider is, once you add to the divisiveness of The Revenant the fact that it won the Globes and BAFTA, there may be many in the Academy who intentionally *don’t* want it to win, and so while they might have ranked it #4 might now rank it #7 or #8: strategic voting. There could very possibly be a backlash effect.
But still, the smart money’s on The Revenant. However, it is a crazy year, and The Big Short could still take it.
To me, The Revenant (like Spotlight) is still the one that would be the surprise. Stats-wise.
what ur heart wants to win???
100% Spotlight. But, if that can’t happen, then 100% The Big Short (so that the stats hold.)
Stats are made to be broken.
Never heard that one before… 🙂
Films that have won both the Golden Globe and BAFTA but still lost the Oscar in the past 20 years:
2014: Boyhood (lost to Birdman)
2007: Atonement (lost to No Country For Old Men)
2005: Brokeback Mountain (lost to Crash)
2004: The Aviator (lost to Million Dollar Baby)
1995: Sense And Sensibility (lost to Braveheart)
However, when you add a DGA victory into the mix, the only movie that won all three of those but still failed to win Best Picture was Brokeback Mountain. FWIW.
But none of those movies except for Brokeback also won the DGA. The Revenant is a lock.
Clearly you didn’t read my whole comment. Here, let me copy and paste the relevant section for you:
“However, when you add a DGA victory into the mix, the only movie that won all three of those but still failed to win Best Picture was Brokeback Mountain.”
Sorry, I didn’t see the very bottom of what you wrote, interesting post, I appreciate your helpful info! 🙂
Brokeback also won PGA. And WGA, for which Revenant wasn’t even nominated. And NY, LA, Critics Choice, about 20 more Best Picture prizes including red areas like Utah and Dallas. And had the most nominations and highest box office among the nominees by 50%. And was a cultural zeitgeist. Just saying.
But cowboys couldn’t possibly be gay and have sex, according to the Academy.
Finally, I have confirmation that people actually don’t read the whole comment they’re replying to sometimes!… 🙂
A solution to this crazy season: 24 categories, won by 24 different films.
Picture: The Martian
Director: Room
Actor: Trumbo
Actress: 45 Years
Supp Actor: The Big Short
Supp Actress: Steve Jobs
Adapted Screenplay: Brooklyn
Original Screenplay: Straight Outta Compton
Editing: The Big Short
Animated Feature: Inside Out
Animated Short: World of Tomorrow
Cinematography: Sicario
Costume: Cinderella
Documentary Feature: Amy
Documentary Short: Body Team 12
Foreign: Son of Saul
Live Action Short: Ave Maria
Make-up: The 100-year-old Man
Score: Bridge of Spies
Song: Til it Happens to You
Production Design: Mad Max
Sound Editing: The Revenant
Sound Mixing: Star Wars
Visual Effects: Ex-Machina
That’s not a bad idea except for this: You found a way to give 24 different movies an Oscar but you made sure Carol didn’t get one? 🙁
Not intentional. I should have put it in for Costumes, which it deserves anyway.
And you gave THE BIG SHORT two awards…
Neither of them Screenplay, which is the only Award it’s actually going to win, I’m afraid.
Carol got 6 nominations too many. If you liked it, fine. I just thought it was really pretentious and boring. I think Cinderella or maybe Mad Max deserves to win costumes.
I still find it odd how Brooklyn got snubbed there, since to quote a Goldderby user whose name I can’t recall, “the entire movie is an excuse for Saorise Ronan to wear fancy outfits,” or something like that.
What does Gail Withers think about this??
I wonder if her readings changed…
Am I the only one who didn’t like The Revenant? It’s #6 on my BP list (I watched all of them)
I voted it #7
I did a rundown of the big 5 awards (PGA, DGA, GG, BAFTA and SAG) for the last 4 years to try to assess this year’s film chances. Interesting that all the BP winners last years needed at least 3 wins of the big 5:
GG: Argo, 12YAS, Boyhood, Revenant
BAFTA: Argo, 12 YAS, Boyhood, Revenant
PGA: Argo, Gravity/12Yas, Birdman, Big Short
DGA: Argo, Gravity, Birdman, Revenant
SAG: Argo, Hustle, Birdman, Spotlight
Totals:
Argo – 5/5 – won
Gravity – 2/5 – lost
12 YAS – 3/5 – won
Birdman – 3/5 – won
Big Short 1/5 – ??
Revenant 3/5 – ??
Spotlight 1/5 – ??
Hustle – 1/5 – lost
Interesting to look at these. Not sure if they mean anything or not. But interesting to the look at the 5-piece combo.
Good for TR
Interesting, but the time frame’s quite a bit arbitrary. If you go back to 1996, the first year they all existed simultaneously, you actually get plenty of exceptions – five, to be exact: The Departed won one, Crash won one, Million Dollar Baby won one, A Beautiful Mind won two and Braveheart won zero. Still, I repeat, it IS interesting that for the last 10 years this rule is confirmed. Well spotted!
Also, given how predictive it is, you should probably include the Critics Choice as the sixth big one.
What a dissapointment! AGI is going to have more Oscars than Steven Spieldberg, Martin Scorsese, Clint Estwood, Ang Lee and others; while Ridley Scott will never win an Oscar in his life. I don’t understand what is so special about The Revenant, I rather see Adam Mckay win than this scarf egocentric piece of crap.
Who the fuck peed in your cheerios? You’re kicking dirt about a man winning an award that has no bearing on your life and the worst you can say is he wears a scarf?
Lol @ Steven. Well said!
You are forgetting Kubrick and Hitchcock not to mention countless others especially foreign directors.
How good is that Steve Jobs movie with Kate Winslet?
I just felt like I need to be persuaded to watch a movie like that. I just get a sense of that Lincoln movie. Long drawn out… drowsy despite the fact I can still appreciate the lead actor’s performance, the movie as a whole was just a snooze fest.
eh it was very talky but something was missing i’ll agree with cameron below something about the structure was just meh not his best work even the social network was much better somehow his feel for zuckenberg character translated better than steve jobs , kate was great but i’ve yet to see a bad performance by her so
I really hope she wins. I think she has a chance.
Steve Jobs is my 2nd favorite film of 2015 (below Sicario and above Mad Max: Fury Road). It all begins with Aaron Sorkin’s dense and dialogue-heavy screenplay (the best of the year, imho), which then pours into the actors’ performances (Fassbender and Winslet especially, but also Daniels, Waterston, Rogen, and Stuhlberg). Danny Boyle cohesively and subtly pulls it all together, not to mention the choice (in collaboration with D.P. Alwin H. Küchler) to shoot the first act in 16mm, the second act in 35mm, and the third act in digital to demonstrate the advancement of technology. On top of all of this is Daniel Pemberton’s experimental and extraordinary original score that also becomes cleaner as technology becomes more advanced, in addition to Elliot Graham’s slick editing.
It’s pure, raw drama that manages to capture the essence of Steve Jobs without really depicting real-life events down to the tee.
It continues to amaze me that we clamor year after year for more unorthodox biopics that seek to capture the essence of the figure through a limited number of events in their life, character flaws and all, yet we still settle with those usual, by-the-numbers biopics that mostly survey through the most important events in the figure’s life and basically depict them as saints.
Maybe that’s why many people, especially the general public, didn’t appreciate the film when it first came out and even to this day. But as they say, time is always the ultimate judge of art.
Oh and by the way, Kate Winslet gives what is probably the best female supporting performance of 2015. She’s the rock-solid spine of every scene she’s in. That late scene in which she tearfully implores Steve to “fix it with Lisa” brings me close to tears every time I watch it. If Winslet ends up winning the Academy Award, it will be for that scene.
I’m a huge fan of “Steve Jobs” but I find Aaron’s script to be very uneven. It has moments of incredible brilliance but also remarkable lows. The three-act arc can feel a bit tiresome in the last act, especially because it relies on the same artifice as the other two. It’s very Sorkin-esque but it felt like Danny Boyle couldn’t redeem Sorkin’s flaws (something that Fincher masterfully did).
I had similar thoughts at first when I saw the third act, but after the second viewing, I realized that all of the emotional arcs and dramatic reveals had their release in that last third. They came to their logical conclusions. But at the same time, it made sense that the three acts are, in their own ways, their own separate short films. Our minds tell us to seek a cohesive flow across all three, but it’s also the challenge to recognize that we’re not really following them the whole way through, but rather just peeking in at three different points and observing what dynamics have changed and what our characters have learned. They’re three different stories, but the same story at the same time. That’s the masterstroke.
Well put. I’ve felt lonely being a “Steve Jobs” supporter since the fall. I agree it’s one of the year’s best films, a biopic that takes some structural risks and actually breaks the cookie-cutter mold. If Leo wasn’t a slam-dunk for Best Actor, I think Fassbender would be the frontrunner and whether or not Kate wins, I agree she delivered the best performance. My theory on another reason why “Steve Jobs” fared so poorly is because of Steve Jobs-fatigue, like the public is tired of hearing about Steve Jobs. If somehow the film were about someone else, I think it would’ve fared much better. In the long-run though, a really masterful piece of cinema from 2015.
As long as bringing up this film continues to make people think you’re talking about the Ashton Kutcher film, this film will remain an underrated masterpiece from 2015.
Predictable seeing may “experts” now swinging behind The Revenant for BP. DGA was a much important win than BAFTA in my opinion, but maybe they needed that extra push.
So if you dropped down from outer space tonight and someone presented you with three films, which would you choose for BP:
1. Film A. Big epic, won Golden Globe BP/BD/Best Actor, won SAG BA no SAG ensemble nomination, won DGA (first ever back to back winner), won BAFTA Pic/Director/Actor, won BAFTA with no screenwriting nom, most Oscar nominations (12), no screenwriting nom or WGA nom. Director won BP/BD last year Biggest film in the world right now.
2. Film B. Won PGA. No other Best Picture wins. Hit all the major precursor nominations. Lost SAG ensemble, DGA, GG, BAFTA. Won WGA. 5 nominations.
3. Film C. Won a ton of critics Best Picture Awards. Won SAG ensemble against Film B. Won WGA. Lost PGA/DGA/GG/BAFTA, no BAFTA director nom. 6 nominations
Which would you bet on?
do U think that the Academy will reward a Mexican with the two biggest awards 2 years in a row? Boyhood won both Golden globes and BAFTA last year and ended up empty handed….So last year a PGA victory was more important last year than a Golden Globe and a BAFTA’s today?
just answer the question. Your answer is B?
I answered your question with more questions, hope you can answer and guess my choice….
“will reward a Mexican”
Really? It does not matter what nationality Alejandro.
Actually guys, in this year of #OscarSoWhite, voting for AGI may sound the diversity friendlier, afterall he is the only person of color nominated in his category. Also awarding him would make the third consecutive year of a Latino best director winner. It’s a good argument for those members “We? Racists?”
No, Alejandro win because he’s the best in this year ..
Well…the Academy has yet to do the same thing to anybody, including white men, so that Mexican stands a better chance than anybody. In case it matter’s to you, he did just win the DGA, which Birdman won last year, which Argo won in 2013, which King’s Speech won in 2011. They all rained down on the critics parade when DGA gave out their awards. Also, if you’re going to say “The Academy will never do :thisandthis:” then take in mind the DGA just did something they’ve never done before, reward a filmmaker, Mexican or not, with consecutive wins.
Film A
The correct answer is ‘2’. The popular answer is ‘1’. The answer my intuition is telling me will turn out to be right, in the end, is ‘3’.
Anne Thompson just retweeted this:
At least 15 of the past 16 movies to win both DGA and BAFTA also went on to win best picture at the Oscars #TheRevenant
8:31pm – 14 Feb 16
finally a stat going the revenant way !
Obviously, though, absolutely all of them had screenplay or WGA (and, since it’s existed, SAG Ensemble) nominations.
Sasha Stone of AwardsDaily and Jeffrey Wells of Hollywood-Elsewhere just posted ”Oscar Poker,” their weekly audio podcast about the awards’ race. Sasha’s been a big believer in ”The Big Short” and its stats, while Jeffrey has been a big booster of ”The Revenant.” They hashed out ”The Revenant’s” big wins at BAFTA and what it means.
Sasha still believes it might be too divisive to win on a preferential ballot at the Academy. She also acknowledged that she doesn’t like ”The Revenant” as much as 3 of the other Best Picture nominees, but admitted: ”In terms of scope and reach, you can’t beat ‘The Revenant.’ How many times in your life do you see a movie like this? Not often. I just have to get over my minor annoyance about it winning. It’s an ambitious film. It’s the kind of thing that film awards were made for. It transports you to a difference place. It’s like virtual reality. It feels like you’re standing next to Leo. … It IS a high achievement. They succeeded. They made a lot of money. It’s popular.”
Sasha added, ”It’s gonna win a lot of Oscars. If I had known it was gonna turn out this way, I wouldn’t have agreed to go to the Oscars. (Laughs.) … I definitely told everyone involved with the film, including the publicists, that I didn’t think it would win Best Picture, so I’m really, really wrong about ‘The Revenant.’ … What more can you say? I can’t say ‘The Revenant’ doesn’t deserve Best Picture. I don’t think anyone could. It deserves it, so it should win.”
https://www.awardsdaily.com/podcasts/oscarpoker/episode123.mp3
i dont see what you are trying to prove here..if that makes you happy..lol
She makes the important point that TR came late to PGA, and that may be why it did not win.
She also twice makes the ridiculous claim that it has “terrible” reviews, and Jeff picks her up on that
Andrew, I’m glad you picked on the ”terrible” reviews aspect. Sasha kept pounding it for being ”the worst reviewed”’ movie since ”Crash” and ”A Beautiful Mind,” and initially said its Rotten Tomatoes score was ”in the 70s.” Then she corrected herself and said it was actually 82. Jeffrey disputed the characterization of the ”terrible” reviews and pointed out that 82 is not that low. I’ve got a lotta respect for Sasha’s opinion, which is why I read her all the time, but I just don’t buy the idea that ”The Revenant” is as ”extremely divisive” as she keeps contending. Sure, the movie has its haters, but when some pundits claim a movie is too ”divisive,” it seems as if what they’re really saying is: ”I didn’t like this movie as much as other people did, and I can’t believe they don’t agree with me.” To their credit, Sasha and Jeffrey acknowledge that they didn’t really ”get” ”The Revenant” after the first viewing. It took them a second viewing to appreciate it more. It was a matter of pride. Who likes to admit they’re ”wrong”? It’s human. I did it with ”Boyhood.” Even after ”Birdman” swept the guilds, I stuck with ”Boyhood.” I couldn’t believe the Academy wouldn’t love it as much as I did.
Here’s the thing, all movies that have won best picture since Crash have been above 86 or Metacritic, which means if The Martian, Bridge of Spies, The Revenant or The Big Short (her pick) were to win best picture then they would ALL be the “lowest rated” film to win since Crash.
True dat. I just don’t trust a lot of critics anymore, even the ones considered the best because they don’t always reflect how I feel when I see the same film. Some even go bat shit crazy over films I think are terrible and often enough I feel I was quite right to feel that way. Like A.O. Scott says, it’s alright if he’s wrong, and in my opinion he can definitely be wrong, even if he is a great writer.
If you surf the web, you’ll find proof of The Revenant’s divisiveness 🙂
No need to surf the Web. I can find plenty of divisiveness here. 😉
However, I don’t necessarily believe we reflect the demographics of the regular moviegoers who have plunked down over $365 million worldwide (so far) to see ”The Revenant.”
Of course it’s the type of movie that attracts moviegoers. It looks stunning, epic, it has Leo. The Force Awakens made 2 billion dollars worldwide but you’d hardly find staunch supporters for it besides a considerable niche.
My Facebook and Twitter feeds had polarized reactions towards The Revenant, and I’m not just talking about movie buffs. Even I went into the theater expecting a good, if not great movie, and came out strongly disliking it.
Can’t please everyone. … But when it comes to Oscars, all you need is the Academy. 😉
We were talking about moviegoers. We already know the Academy will fall head over heels for it.
And so they are all nincompoops for liking/loving The Revenant. Of course the film has its detractors. Most films that people keep going back to see have detractors, even the most popular ones out there. Some films languish for years because they didn’t get across the board good reviews at first but eventually they re-emerge to be appreciated without the baggage added to them initially. I believe that will happen with The Revenant and with Birdman as well, which also had a sizable number of detractors. Sheesh, look at Night of the Living Dead and the stuff that one spawned years after the fact. Look at Star Trek. These were a film and a TV show that didn’t get that much respect except for a dedicated group of viewers initially. Roger Ebert couldn’t say enough bad things about Night of the Living Dead. Now it’s a classic. Similarly The Shining was somewhat despised initially but not anymore as it seems to be getting shown all the time. If a film has a dedicated group of followers passionate enough about it, it will stand the test of time. We’ll have to see how it plays out with The Revenant but right now I think a lot of people are too invested in other films they liked better to really get the big picture. So relax. Oscars don’t make or break a film necessarily.
I veheemently disagree with Sasha’s depiction of The Revenant.
Among the potty-mouthed podcast, she also says The Revenant didn’t win any critics awards. She must have been snoozing through the GGs.
Toby,
Find me one review written by any member of the Hollywood Foreign Press. If they were critics then they would called themselves critics. They cover Hollywood news. They are the Entertainment Tonight of foreign journalists.
Go find a review by any one of them and then you can snark, alright? They mostly all live in LA. So it shouldn’t be hard to find something they’ve written. I can give you a list of the members if you like.
Adam K. Raymond at New York magazine did a recent breakdown of the various Golden Globe members. And some of their credentials (or seeming lack of them) are amusing. That said, many are journalists, but there are some critics, like Mohammed Rouda, sprinkled among them. One of them (H.J. Park) even belongs to the L.A. Film Critics Association (!).
http://www.vulture.com/2015/01/who-exactly-picks-the-golden-globes-winners.html#
Here’s a link to some of Rouda’s movie reviews, but I can’t read ’em. They’re in Arabic!
http://filmreader.blogspot.com/2014/12/year-8-issue-206-hobbit-battle-of-five.html
Because everyone knows that the members of the HFPA are film critics.
so editors and experts at goldderby already changed their predictions to revenant to win Oscar BP. good job guys
The editors at GoldDerby have sure updated their predictions: 6 out of 7 now believe ”The Revenant” will win. But I don’t think a number of the experts (from other publications) have updated their picks: 11 out of the 23 of them are still backing ”Spotlight”; 7 are going for ”The Revenant,” and just 5 for ”The Big Short.”
wooh “Just 5”..that seems like you wanna downplay big short….if it makes you happy that a lot of people lost their lives and jobs due to 2008 crash so be it…you just want a lord of the rings kinda movie win oscar…i know its kinda like the dark knight needs to win kinda happiness…but remember…no one thinks about the revenant and say i wanna care about global warming….but will try to look at wallstreet and corruption after watching big short….
Dont just get addicted to pop culture and ignore reality…thats the message of the big short
If someone needed The Big Short to have their eyes opened concerning Wall Street, then they have been living under a rock for 8 years. They were telling nothing new, they just packaged in a way that was easy to digest.
no common man knew what was happening inside wall street till this movie..they knew bad loans and consequences but banks bailing out and all that stuff was not clear
so you’re saying voters should only pic a winner due to the relevance of the subject matter? With no requirement going to personal taste? Right…………………………………….
if that’s what he’s saying i don’t know what’s more relevant than climate change , while we’re worrying about banks , priest and religion , they come and go but we only have one earth and when the shit hits the fan there won’t be a reboot button or a climate baling out band-aid to make everything go away for a bit , man has to learn to stop abusing nature and its ressources for his own selfishness and learn to live in a more symbiotic relationship with nature but hey maybe its too much to ask
when a movie is going to win oscar its a stamp of approval that the movie represents something and audience needs to get something out of it…revenant has two things against it a)its too simple…its not even visual telling…very very basic with metaphors which TBH can be found in any movie..”this represents that and that represents this” b)its not emotional its just grueling
We are just talking about Oscars here, aren’t we? Not the Nobel Peace Prize I hope.
oscar get as much attention as nobel prize..TBH even more….people will make a point of watching oscar winning movies atleast on VOD or netflix if it wins….that will change the people’s mind…older people will ask questions and so does younger people..bernie sanders supporters are young people…they will watch an oscar winner and be more vigilant..revenant is just a good survival movie..thats all…i dont understand the fuss about it….TBH they shot interstellar in iceland by taking all the equipment there…its not like revenant is the only film to do that…
revenant/spotlight is winning best picture. those behind the big short have big egos especially brad pitt so it no wonder it didn’t win. he seems not to show up at awards when he knows he wont win. hopefully his smug and plastic face wont show at Oscars either
Ryan… how come no post for ASC?
Please write something 😉 Happening now.
Glad I saw it I guess. Good night and onto South Carolina!!! #BAFTAlive
They left Will Poulter! Shame. #BAFTAlive
They didn’t leave Poulter. He chose not to go onstage. Once ”The Revenant” was announced as Best Film, Poulter pats Inarritu on the back. Before heading to the stage, Inarritu gives Poulter a big hug. Earlier, when Inarritu won for Director, he singled out Poulter by name, too. … I thought Inarritu’s speech was incredibly gracious, thanking the American AND Native American casts, as well as saluting their British and Irish brethren (and he even joked about how he has trouble pronouncing Domhnall Gleeson’s name). … Also gracious: DiCaprio for saluting a number of British actors whose films influenced him: Tom Courtenay, Gary Oldman, Peter O’Toole and Daniel Day-Lewis, with a shoutout to his co-star Tom Hardy.
leo is truly a connoisseur of the history of cinema , its not just an air he puts on , he really knows hsi subject
Wait—wait–do they omit a shitload of categories from the telecast? The fuck? #BAFTAlive
For all we’ve been anticipating it–it is going to be anticlimactic, ain’t it? #BAFTAlive
I fast forwarded Iñarritu’s speech #BAFTAlive #hadto
Is it just me? Or do Iñarritu’s speeches sound a lot like: “Thanks very much. But we all know these awards are just a formality. I show up, sure. But we all know that I’m going to be winning before I even start filming the movie.”
I have lived in mexico during my childhood and Iñarritu is one of the most hated characters in the whole country, many people want him to fail…His movies are severely criticized by the press lately as pretentious and overrated.
yet he just won today 🙂
He wins because he was Twentieth Century Fox behind him—imagine him without that support and lobbying …
i dont care about innaritu but i am sad that the big short is not winning…its so emotional movie..it captures american culture and how people are being distracted by pop icons and getting screwed out of their homes
I thought that Big Short’s PGA award was enough to consider the Big Short the front runner for Best Picture..The Revenant for me is too weak in dialogue and acting to win,, just like Gravity…
i really thought people were gonna be disgusted by revenant promotion of difficult shooting ooh boohoo…who cares if you shot in ocean bottom…as long as the movie is emotionally not engaging its not worth it…its like enough already….i was soo bummed that he healed soo quickly i mean WTF….i think even more than gladiator this is the superhero role winning oscar for leo…he is not even human in this movie….they skipped dark knight because it was superhero movie..what is this then ?? jumping off cliff and surviving…if academy is any wiser they will vote for leo for suffering and innaritu for ambition for trying and give TBS best picture or spotlight….its tooo thin movie….it doesnt matter if its shot in icy mountains…if you are using a stick as a decoy to lure tom hardy…many movies have done that…whatever i can rant for an hour about this ….
Why do people feel everything has to be explained to them? Imagination works too, you know. The acting was strong throughout The Revenant.
Acting can’t be strong without a good dialogue…
Really? You actually believe you can’t act with your eyes or facial expressions? Of course these are what all good acting is based on.
I didn’t find it all that emotional. Many people screwed themselves. Greed is rampant in the U.S. and people were spoon fed lies to be sure, but they could have also looked harder at what was happening. They just didn’t want to do that. Same thing happened in the 1920’s and still no one seemed to have learned a damn thing.
Imagine any film winning without support and lobbying.
– Iñarritu is one of the most hated characters in the whole country
– yet he just won today 🙂
errr… I think I can clear this up.
aandybarclay is saying: Iñarritu is not well-liked — in Mexico
braylon thompson is saying: and yet he won — in Great Britain
Glad I could help explain how Iñarritu can win when he’s not surrounded by people who hate him.
Without Lubezki’s cinematography, how would Revenant’s odds to win would be?
Who knows? But Lubezki hasn’t always been an automatic Oscar win. Before ”Gravity,” he was nominated 5 other times where he lost. … Besides, I don’t think you can separate his cinematography from Inarritu’s direction. They’ve both cited their collaborative teamwork.
All true.
But I don’t think the question was “What would Lubezki do without Innaritu?
The question was: “What would The Revenant be without Lubezki?”
And I think the answer is: The Revenant would be The Grey.
Lubezki won has now won 4 BAFTAs and he won half of them without Inarritu.
Lubezki has won dozens and dozens of awards for Tree of Life, Children of Men, Gravity, The New World — as far back as Sleepy Hollow in 1999 Lubezki was winning awards.
Sure, yes, they are a good team together.
But Inarritu needs Lubezki more than Lubezki need Inarritu.
Why do I think so? Ask the same question about Birdman. “What would Birdman be without Lubezki?”
Without Lubezki, Birdman would be a movie that relies on a gimmick but with nobody to pull off the gimmick. Without Lubezki, Birdman would be a bigger mess than it already is.
So, would the Revenant being winning everything that it is winning without Lubezki? I think no.
However, it’s sort of a moot question because The Revenant does have Lubezki. Lucky for Inarritu.
Lubezki doesn’t need any director in particular to bring him luck. He makes his own luck.
“All true.”
Same as that win The Big Short?
Not sure what you mean…
You could make the same argument for any number of films, though. What would Godfather have been without it’s cinematographer? What would Mad Max be without it’s cinematographer? And on and on. All great films benefit from great cinematography. Lawrence of Arabia, Doctor Zhivago, and on and on it goes. Can you think of any films that would be all they could be without a truly wonderful cinematographer working in tandem with the director? Name them.
lol…i know…but its strange how innaritu has gained this much influence….one thing that surprised me though is people behind and beside the revenant seats during bafta did not stand up and cheer or happy when it won….i can see people happy when TBS won for screenplay..may i am overthinking….but standing ovation could have solidified…but it didnt happen…even at dga some people were shocked when he won…i saw some people’s looking at each other in the table next to innaritu in negative shock….may be i am overthinking….but man…..if christian bale was lead in this movie and it caught this much momentum it would have made more or less similar money…thats why leo’s starpower is different from tom cruise…for people to see tom cruise movie reviews are enough…but for people to see leo movie..you need reviews and oscar buzz and golden globe nominations….thats been the case lately….
“one thing that surprised me though is people behind and beside the revenant seats during bafta did not stand up and cheer or happy when it won….”
This goes back to what Sasha says when says The Revenant (or any movie) is divisive.
It specifically goes to the way these awards are voted on — the way the ballots are counted.
On the BAFTA ballot — no preferential system, no redistribution, because BAFTA voters pick ONE movie out of the five nominees, and they don’t rank any #2 or #3 choice. Because there’s no point — the One movie out of the 5 that gets the most votes wins the BAFTA.
But with 5 choices, it’s very easy to win a BAFTA this way:
25% – Winner
20% – not a winner
20% – not a winner
20% – not a winner
15% – not a winner
(= 100%)
A movie can win a BAFTA — and yet 75% of the voters didn’t choose it. 75% of the BAFTA voters wanted another movie to win. Various others. So… not a lot of thrilled people in the Opera House for a win like that.
On the other hand, a movie can win a BAFTA this way too.
75% – Winner (The Big Short Screenplay? maybe?)
10% – not a winner
5% – not a winner
5% – not a winner
5% – not a winner
(= 100%)
In that situation we will see more people in the audience excited and happy — because almost ALL the voters voted for it.
The first kind of win is what we call polarizing and divisive. The 2nd example is more ‘universal acclaim’ or ‘consensus’
It’s so very easy to fall into the wrong mindset — “wow, the BAFTAs really loved The Revenant”
— but that could be a very false to look at it…
In fact, what might be happening is this: “Wow, 25% of the BAFTA really loved The Revenant — and 75% of the BAFTA are sitting there somewhat pissed and bored because they wanted other movies to win.
I know this comments I write like this hammer an obvious point about the way the Simple Plurality Ballot works …
Sorry if it’s boring. (I trust you bored people know how to skim and scroll 🙂
But for me it’s a lot of consolation to my hurt feelings and disappointment.
Did the BAFTAs really HATE Carol or The Big Short? of course not.
Maybe the BAFTAs voted like this:
22% Inarritu
21% Haynes
20% Ridley
19% McKay
18% Speilberg
(= 100%)
That’s absolutely possible.. .
It would account for the apparent lack of enthusiasm for the Inarritu win..
Nobody can prove to me that this is not what happened..
And it makes me feel a lot better.
Indeed. Actually I’m not sure many of the winners elicited that much audience excitement from what I could tell. Leo maybe a bit. The British awards seem a bit less enthusiastic overall than the American awards. Could it be that British thing about not acting too enthusiastic?
simple example can be say this weekend if i am looking for a movie and opened rotten tomatoes to see current movies… i see the news that revenant won bafta…of course having a recognizable face in that news like leo on its poster helps….but it can easily be christian bale and the news will prompt me to check out the movie….especially if its epic. Same happened since its release…first nominations were announced and movie is released and then golden globe win and then oscar noms…then sag win…then dga win…now bafta….of course people go see this like they saw kings speech….its been in news with buzz of “best picture of the year”..i cant fully attribute it to leo’s starpower alone….may be 50 million give or take…but not more than that….
I’m curious about this. I always thought Inarritu seemed like a rich kid. Leo last night brought up that he grew up poor. I’ve been wondering which one of them actually had a tougher road to fame, the Mexican or the blond haired and blue eyed American?
Leo, from what I can tell from previous stories, interviews, etc., grew up in a shitty L.A. neighborhood with lots of prostitutes and addicts around. The neighborhood he grew up in was Silver Lake I believe. it’s turned around a lot since then. His mother worked as a secretary and his dad sold and worked on underground comix. His dad had a number of famous friends including Harvey Pekar and R. Crumb. DiCaprio was pretty much a little punk as a kid with a big mouth and was often picked on by bigger kids. He did have talent, though, or maybe just perseverance. He also had a somewhat unconventional upbringing. Most of his friends date from his early teens and have stayed his friends. His mom made sure that he went to a better school but I’m not sure he ever even finished high school. The rest is history, I guess. Inarritu apparently worked on a ship when he was around 16 and 18, worked his way across Europe and elsewhere. He eventually worked for a radio station in Mexico, was a composer for awhile and moved on to film. He came to the U.S. because he and his family were threatened. Kidnapping is not uncommon in Mexico City especially if you are considered a celebrity or may have money.
Thanks. That’s very interesting info.
Iñarritu went to Universidad Iberoamericana a private college for rich kids, is that what you are talking about? Iñarritu was a radio host and a director for TV commercials before coming to the US, he was pretty much under the radar until 2000… He wasn’t born loaded, but for the majority of mexican people he is cocky and pretentious . If he was arrogant before getting an Oscar, imagine the level of arrogance before getting 2…
what about those who think they are important or coward to show up at all when they think their movies wont win. they do Oscar bait movie after another yet not a great actor. they attach themselves with great actors to make themselves look good and coattails others success. am talking to you brad pitt.
k, sorry, I didn’t know Brad Pitt peed on you.
You and Brand obviously have a troubled relationship and you know terrible things about him that nobody else knows.
All’s I know is this: He’s never peed on me.
he peed on his baby mama’s shoes though during their flop movie by the sea. and if he takes showers often he wont have to use baby wipes. ya know he smells.
What???? Everyone loves the BRAD.
cool it on brad pitt hating..lol….the big short isnt oscar bait…it had nudity and f words…which means they were not holding back unlike oscar baity spotlight
You just articulated it!
It’s just you, Ryan. Besides, how many fucking ways can you say thank you at these awards thingies? Just a thought.
Boy are the screenplay awards locked #BAFTAlive
I’m just happy McCarthy finally got a nomination (not including story credit for Up) and will win.
Awe that was lovely. George Miller is so adorable #BAFTAlive
Was actually rooting for Sandy Powell but I’ll take anything for MMFR #BAFTAlive
Quantum of Solace lol #BAFTAlive
Is Vikander dating Fassy?!?!? #BAFTAlive
where have you BEEN? 🙂
https://twitter.com/filmystic/status/698987946230292480
Ugh unfair does not begin to assess it
FASSSSSSSSSSSSSSYYYYYYYYYYY
Short answer: yes.
Vikander had to win this or Leigh. #BAFTAlive
guys do u have TBS pga win video link ??? i can find innaritu dga win video but not this one !!
Back. Wow Wilson MVP so far #BAFTAlive
It’s all going perfectly to plan.
Mad Max now has the element of surprise in Picture and Director.
And when whoever announces it, and everyone around me is losing their minds…
I’ll be chilling with my chrome mouth and my Big Gulp full of vodka and Gatorade, nodding slowly.
Maybe I’ll Tweet at that one twit who called The Revenant a “silent pain poem” and be like “Hope you didn’t bet the farm, buddy!”
I PRAY you’re right, and if Mad Max does upset with Picture and Director wins, I’ll never be more happy at being wrong.
Same here 🙂
Same here. I hated The Revenant, a hollow pretentious Searchers/Tarkovsky wannabe torture porn, the only undeserving nominee of the lot, by far.
That’s the problem with the Oscars. Whenever there are upsets, they’re always for the worse (e.g., Shakespeare over Private Ryan, Crash over Brokeback, etc.). We never see great upsets like Fellowship over Beautiful Mind or something like the amazing Beasts of the Southern Wild over Argo. They came pretty close in 2002 after giving The Pianist Best Actor, Screenplay and Director, but then far inferior Chicago Picture (Costumes and the like). How a movie can have the 3 awards The Pianist won (when the Actor is in literally every scene of the movie) is beyond me, but thats the Oscars.
To me, Marcia Gay Harden over Kate Hudson, Juliette Binoche over Lauran Bacall are both upsets where they’ve gone for the better nominee over the favored nominee.
I hated The Revenant as well. It’s a mediocre film but it’s so cool to be in love with the genius of Innaritu. It makes me laugh.
The thing is that people love being considered deep and complex and Innaritu is their cup of tea – he’s easy to get because there’s no complexity there, only the pretense. But well, let them eat cake. Soon enough it’ll be over. The Revenant will win 6 Oscars – picture, directing, actor, cinematography, sound mixing, sound editing, with a possible seventh for make-up & hairstyling or production design. And as much as I love Lubezki, this win will be undeserved because yes, it looks beautiful, but it’s self-important and empty. A win for Seale would make my day and I’m just not that much in love with Mad Max: Fury Road (Team Spotlight here!) but he delivered something truly interesting there. Whatever.
politely disagree on marcia gay harden over kate hudson… penny lane is a character for the ages, played brilliantly. I dont have much fondness for anything else from kate hudson, but harden over her, was bad judgement (in my opinion)
Those who use the word pretentious are simply too lazy to think.
WB better have been on the ball this past month about getting the vote out. If so…those prayers might be answered.
Do I follow you on twitter? I need to.
Pretty sure you do. I definitely follow you.
I literally follow 5 different Jamies. @ me so I can say hi
get over it dude :-)…its done …mad max should feel the honored to be nominated and not snubbed like dark knight
He said, with his chromeless mouth and commemorative Revenant steak-knife set.
We will ride eternal. Shiny & Chrome.
Jamie, Don’t ever stop writing comments like this. Thanks.
Deal. 😉
witness!!!!
ASC is in 30 mins. Chivo or Seale?
Chivo
hope so
no brainer chivo
+1. I can’t see anyone beating Chivo. My personal fave is the category is Lachman, though.
chivo is overrated….
Should be Seale!!
Gonna be Chivo again.
I’m usually a fan of the “bigger” movies winning. So I’m all for Revenant and Mad Max sweeping. Screenplay awards are perfectly adequate rewards for both films since there’s no ensemble Oscar.
but what about giving voice to people who lost homes in 2008??? lets just make innaritu happy instead ??? and tell fuck all those homeless losers ??
Exactly, like how Midnight in Paris and The Descendants received Screenplay Oscars as consolation prizes for when The Artist won BP.
But those two didn’t win the PGA/SAG.
I just read that Larson wasn’t even at the ceremony. No I really wish Ronan had won. Well maybe she will win a Tony for The Crucible.
She’s filming in Australia. It’s a good excuse.
Getting chased by King Kong can’t possibly be as difficult as the non-stop Oscar campaigning she’d been doing for the previous 2 months
I’m building a ‘The Revenant is winning BP’ proclamations database (I won’t bother using quotation marks – takes too long). So far, I have:
– Toby: The Revenant has now, officially, become the favourite for the Oscars BP.
– Pete Miesel: Calling it now, Revenant wins 11 Oscars.
– RobertRoss: I’m sad to say the season is over. Freaking Inarritu is sweeping again.
– JR: The Revenant is the frontrunner.
– braylon thompson: TR bags everything……its over
– Damian Pietrzak: My updated picks: BP: Revenant etc.
– Chung Fang: Ok, I concede. It is The Revenent all the way
– alan: the revenant wins #enough said
– Pablo: The Revenant takes the lead in the best picture race.
– Velimir Petkov: The last obstacle is the so-called “preferential ballot”. It will be destroyed. The Revenant even won Best Sound of all things… It’s so over.
– Andrew: TR is going to win BP
– Marshall Flores: Not denying that Revenant has the momentum now and will very likely be crowned the Best Picture winner in 2 weeks
– Brotherfease: The Revenant takes the lead in the Best Picture race.
– Feli Mejia: TR and MM:FR will sweep the Oscars mirroring the BAFTAs.
– Jacob: The Revenant has ALREADY WON the Academy Award for Best Picture.
– handsomesolo: I couldn’t be less excited about the inevitability of The Revenant winning.
Anybody else who has a similar statement to make, please feel free to join in! I don’t want to be the only one sticking my neck out this season. Y’all should feel the pressure too, at least a little bit. Unless you’re… CHICKEN!… 🙂
Also, if anyone thinks their proclamation was misunderstood and/or doesn’t belong in this database, just let me know and I’ll remove it! With apologies!
Hahaha.. is this because you’re sticking to TBS and want to get it out on full display if that happens?
Here’s mine:
TR and MM:FR will sweep the Oscars mirroring the BAFTAs. Still have some hope that Miller could surprise, but most likely it will be AGI.
“TR and MM:FR will sweep the Oscars mirroring the BAFTAs.”
OK, that qualifies… (Even though I prefer something a little clearer on BP, specifically.) I’ll edit above and add it.
“Hahaha.. is this because you’re sticking to TBS and want to get it out on full display if that happens?”
I just want the whole thing to be fair. I know for a fact I’ll be taking a lot of flak if The Revenant wins, so I want the people who are saying The Revenant will win to be facing at least some repercussions of the same nature, should they turn out to be the ones that are wrong, and not myself.
Hehe.. You’re funny. Okay. We’ll see.
Here’s edited for you (although I think it is clear, so sadly, that MM:FR has got no chance to win BP).
TR and MM:FR will sweep the Oscars mirroring the BAFTAs with TR taking BP and Director a play of destiny between Miller and AGI.
🙂 Excellent!
Also, if anybody already included wants to replace the quote I used with a better quote saying the same thing (that The Revenant is winning BP), I’m also completely open to that.
revenant is poised to win BP at oscars
I like your earlier one more. 🙂 It’s more decisive.
The Revenant has ALREADY WON the Academy Award for Best Picture.
Added! Thanks!
We at MOVIE GEEKS UNITED picked The Revenant to win Picture, Actor, Director, Cinematography, and Sound Mixing just a couple of days after the nominations were announced. http://www.blogtalkradio.com/moviegeeksunited/2016/01/18/predicting-the-oscar-winners
Added.
Don’t include me, I’d rather be wrong than say TR will win. If am going to be wrong I want it this way, going against TR not the stats.
🙂 Absolutely! Same for me. (The ‘I’d rather be wrong going with the stats’ part. I’d definitely be betting on The Revenant if the stats gave it as the favorite. But, if it was 50-50, I’d definitely be betting against it.)
hi claudiu do u have TBS pga win video link ??? i can find innaritu dga win video but not this one !!
No, sorry!
Neither were televised, right? So how come there’s even a DGA video? Weird!…
its on youtube directors guild of america channel
There’s a DGA channel… Hmmm, OK. 🙂
I guess someone filmed that one, but probably nobody filmed the PGA win. Interesting! Maybe there’s even a lesson there (something about a Big Short win not being exciting enough for anybody in the industry to want to film it, as opposed to a Revenant win), but that does seem like a bit of a stretch.
lol….its a lot of stretch
🙂 I know.
do you think that the academy will give the 2 most important awards to a Mexican two times in a row??
Clearly, I don’t. (If you’ve read any of my other posts.) But most people do, so what does it matter what I think, for the big picture?! 🙂
I think Carol might still have a shot!
Nah… Carol is DEAD. 🙂 No movie has ever won Best Picture without being nominated first. That’s, like, the ultimate stat… 🙂
love this
I don’t understand the purpose of this.
I think I explained it in one of the replies… but it’s OK if you don’t understand – I’m probably wrong about The Revenant not winning, anyway, right? So I won’t get to use it. So there’s no need to worry about what the purpose of it is… 🙂
Add me.
The Revenant and Spotlight are the only films that from the beginning had a chance to win the BP. Anyone who thinks otherwise – voters Bernie Sanders.
I’ll add you if you specifically say that The Revenant is winning, or that it’s the no.1 favorite at this point. 🙂
I like that they awarded (and are going to in LA) a big film. And this one is way better than the last few winners.
Glad for Spotlight’s award. It’s a fine award to win, and well deserved.
I personally think Ex Machina would have been a better choice for Original Screenplay, but Spotlight’s fine I guess.
Spotlight is a terrific Screenplay winner. I like that it awards the Director too. Good way to get McCarthy an Oscar on his mantle for his efforts.
I get where you’re coming from, but I’d just be more comfortable being able to say, “The Oscar-winning writer of 28 Days Later” than “The Oscar-winning Director of The Cobbler”.
How about the Oscar-winning writer/director of The Station Agent, The Visitor and Win Win?
True, I loved The Station Agent far more than Spotlight. Me and my mom both enjoyed Win Win. But Ex Machina just felt so much more ORIGINAL, and isn’t the category Best Original Screenplay. Also, Alex Garland directed Ex Machina as well.
I absolutely agree on Ex Machina being the bolder, more challenging, original work. I just had to defend McCarthy on this count, The Cobbler is his one stinker out of five features, and I don’t think it’s a coincidence that it is the only one with fantasy elements.
Your points are valid. Adam Sandler couldn’t have helped much either.
It’s also no coincidence that Adam Sandler is in it. Everything he touches turns to shit.
But McCarthy’s other two films, The Station Agent and The Visitor, are excellent.
Don’t forget Win/Win! I loved it so much I bought the Blu-Ray.
Then don’t say it; say the Oscar-winning Writer/Director of “Spotlight” or one of his other fine films: “Win/Win”, “The Station Agent” or “The Visitor.” No doubt in his still young directing career, “The Cobbler” is the exception and not the rule.
A big, overlong film.
Off topic, but here is My official Independent Spirit Awards Ballot
Best Picture (Beasts of No Nation)
Best Director (Cary Joji Fukunga- Beasts of No Nation)
Best Screenplay (S. Craig Zahler- Bone Tomahawk)
Best First Feature (James White)
Best First Screenplay (Emma Donoghue- Room)
Best Female Lead (Brie Larson- Room)
Best Male Lead (Abraham Attah- Beasts of No Nation)
Best Supporting Female (Cynthia Nixon- James White)
Best Supporting Male (Paul Dano- Love & Mercy)
Best Cinematography (Reed Morano- Meadowland)
Best Film Editing (Nathan Nugent- Room)
Best Documentary Feature (Meru)
I didn’t vote on Best International Film because I hadn’t seen any of the nominees.
What a wonderful video tribute to Sidney Poitier. Too bad he wasn’t healthy enough to be there. Until I looked it up, I didn’t know that Poitier had 6 BAFTA nominations, which were ”Edge of the City,” ”A Raisin in the Sun,” ”Lilies of the Field,” ”A Patch of Blue,” ”In the Heat of the Night” and ”The Defiant Ones” (his BAFTA winner). By contrast, Poitier had only 2 Oscar nominations: ”The Defiant Ones” and ”Lilies of the Field” (which he won).
It’s a shame that Hollywood didn’t come up with more movies and opportunities to showcase his talents. Surely, in the half-century that followed ”Lilies of the Field,” there should’ve more chances for him to win another Oscar.
My sentiments exactly. He should have at least been nominated for his stellar work in Guess Who’s Coming To Dinner.
1967 was to Poitier what 2015 was to Alicia Vikander.
Cool to see Mad Max for costumes I always like it when something besides pretty period dresses wins. Another one was when Pracilla Queen of the Desert won the category at the Oscars in the 90s.
QUOTE OF THE CEREMONY:
“Sorry, Idris Elba, you’re making me nervous.
I’m just sociologically programmed to want chocolate on Valentine’s Day.”
– Rebel Wilson,
while presenting Best Supporting Actor
“BAFTA has diverse members. And that’s what we all like to see: diverse members.” – Rebel Wilson
For those who don’t understand that joke, please pick up the nearest thesaurus. Or, if you want a shortcut, Urban Dictionary. ^_^
The one member everyone’s seen didn’t show up.
No, Leo was there. And Fassbender too. I think there were many members everyone has seen show.
If you’re talking about Eddie Redmayne, I believe he presented Best Supporting Actress to Kate Winslet.
nope
I just got this. 😉
She was hilarious and it’s all in the delivery. Can you imagine if Amy Schumer said what Rebel did? It would come across as dirty rather than funny.
Hard for me to accept that Inarritu may soon have more directing Oscars than Scorsese and five Oscars overall.
I didn’t bother watching the show before since the streams were sticky for me. Rebel Wilson was great and I enjoy Fry as host, but there’s something missing this year. I think it’ll probably carry over into Oscar. Everything seems so tired.
So Happy for Kate an Leo winning together. And I’m so so happy in the end the Big surprise on Oscar night will be Ronan upsetting the winning winning winning Larson.
Baffling to me that Larson and only Larson has won these precursors instead of Ronan. I liked Room a little more than Brooklyn, but Ronan’s performance in Brooklyn is for the ages. I would be exceedingly happy to see her surprise on Oscar night, but there is zero indication of that happening.
It will definitely happen, it is my delusional prediction of the year.
My delusional prediction of the year is MM: FR to win Visual Effects over Star Wars: The Force Awakens.
For me Ronan in Brooklyn is the equivalent of Mulligan in An Education — both stunning — but at least BAFTA awarded Mulligan.
Couldn’t get past the ickiness of that movie. Having a teen date a older man plus her parents were fine with it.
Ronan has 2 previous BAFTA nominations for Atonement and The Lovely Bones.
Not bad for a 21 year old. However, she should have won last night.
If Ronan was going to happen, it would have happened here. Sorry, Larson is as big of a lock as DiCaprio.
So happy for Theeb which is a wonderful film, though I thought it was Jordanian.
So why does Costumes get presented onstage, when so many of the other ”tech/design” categories aren’t?
Though I’m glad to see BAFTA showcase so many clips, I wish more winners got to accept their prizes onstage.
(Nice clip from ”Brooklyn” of Ronan and Cohen, but Cohen looked like he was a no-show when ”Brooklyn” won.)
I wish BAFTA would stop trying to predict the Oscars. In another time Ronan would have won. Now she will probably win in the future for a lesser performance.
Intermission
Boyega kills it every time #BAFTAlive
Whatever happens at AMPAS (and I don’t want to get my BP hopes up) it’s great to have a season where BP is not totally predictable.
Before DGA, I had resigned myself to TR winning Actor and Cinematography.
As someone who almost always disagrees with AMPAS, this is a huge thrill.
GO REVENANT !!!
Jack O’Connell yay hope he keeps getting work #BAFTAlive
BAFTA kiss cam is better than anything at the Oscars. More please. #BAFTAlive
Here’s the footage of the amusing odd couples, which includes a same-sex pair …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3-dmo5PrDE
This is definitely one of those ‘what is Leo thinking?’ caption moments..
“I’ll have what she’s having!”.
Taron Egerton was so fucking dashing on the red carpet. #liveblogging the #baftas #testamentofyouth
The Revenant takes the lead in the Best Picture race. It won the DGA, BAFTA, and Globe. Unlike TBS and Spotlight, it is likely to win more than 1 Oscar (non-Picture).
Well, for the Globes there are zero people who vote for Oscars that vote for Globes, and BAFTA only has about 500 people that cross over with Academy voters.
There’s one AMPAS voter in the HFPA (Lisa Lu). AMPAS apparently has 200-300 British-based voters. The overlap isn’t huge but BAFTA is useful in a narrative sense, it helps build consensus.
Exactly Polly. It’s a combination of many things:
1. DGA win, which is the most accurate BP predictor.
2. Locked in for two major Oscar wins. The Big Short, Spotlight, and Mad Max only have one lock.
3. Best Picture typically gets coupled with best director or acting Oscars.
4. Nominated for the most Oscars.
5. Won the BAFTA.
I was more saying that BAFTA likes to try and predict the Oscars nowadays … and that voters are essentially sheep. 🙂
The DGA is only the most accurate predictor if you don’t factor in the preferential. Which is wrong.
Do you really think that TBS is taking home 2 Oscars?
I think it’s certainly possible under the preferential system.
Anything is possible, if it’s nominated. But my question is, do you really think it is?
I REALLY think it is. I think it’s VERY possible. My intuition isn’t telling me it’s not possible AT ALL. Actually, it’s almost telling me it’s LIKELY we’ll have a two-Oscar BP winner this year…
The DGA and Best Picture winner have matched 79% of the time or 53/67 times. It’s the most accurate Best Picture predictor out there. The BAFTA win only increases its odds.
interesting I thought that was PGA but anyways I want revenant or spotlight to win.
PGA has matched 19/26 times or 73%.
Ryan Adams mate I take my hat off to you. If what u heard is,true that only 20% of those,who voted for innirattu as best director who are members of Oscar think revenant will win best picture. But I sorry to say bafta only muddied the waters of a increasingly tiresome crazy fragmented moronic awards,season. Our own Aussie media grossly over inflated the bafta win to fury rd. It won only in technical categories and they called it the ‘ biggest winner of the night’
The baftas have proven to be a dismal failure in their final judgement and the fact that no best editing win no best screenplay win in the 5 bafta wins revenant won barely passes the sniff test.
This means the 5 awards it won are worth less than winning the 5 bigger categories.
Fact if it we’re not for Leo performance revenant would be forgettable if it weren’t for that bear fight. It would waffled on and on and on. Yes awards season is set to set a reckless needless precedent and once again as many posters point out the revenanr is overrated.
“The baftas have proven to be a dismal failure in their final judgement…”
What have we learned?
We have learned that there are just barely enough BAFTA voters smart enough to vote for Carol and Ex Machina to get them nominated.
But when filling out their final ballots, those smart and refined BAFTA members are apparently far outnumbered by the same deary sort of middlebrow voters who populate the ranks of the AMPAS.
oh ryan you are absolutely a joke now. I don’t like this dude at all. all egos like brad pitt
I don’t like this dude at all.
Who’s the dude you don’t like?
ryan you are absolutely a joke now.
I’m a joke? Am I joke because I had hoped the BAFTAs might give ONE award to the movie they nominated in 1NINE categories? Am I a joke because I had hoped the BAFTAs might give ONE award to the actress they nominated twice?
Finally: Ego like Brad Pitt?
Guys like Brad Pitt do not need big egos.
They have EVERYTHING anyone could ever want. I find that people who are that happy and fulfilled are the most modest and humble people I’ve ever known.
Big egos are for insecure losers like Trump.
brad pitt is a smug loser and has big ego and that’s fact. I don’t care if he has money he is an idiot.
happy and fulfilled? lol and don’t ever mention humble and modest when it comes to him.
I don’t like this dude at all.
Who’s the dude you don’t like?
ryan you are absolutely a joke now.
I’m a joke? Am I joke because I had hoped the BAFTAs might give ONE award to the movie they nominated in 1NINE categories? Am I a joke because I had hoped the BAFTAs might give ONE award to the actress they nominated twice?
Finally: “Ego like Brad Pitt” ?
Guys like Brad Pitt do not need big egos.
They have EVERYTHING anyone could ever want. I find that people who are that happy and fulfilled are the most modest and humble people I’ve ever known.
Big egos are for insecure losers like Trump.
“Carol” won zero awards out of 9 nominaions. That’s very cruel. This has been the worst year at BAFTA and worst award season for a long time and it could get even worse. “Carol” might actually win one at Oscar and shame BAFTA for snubbing it. Shame on you, BAFTA!
Carol is probably going home empty-handed. It won’t be alone, though: The Martian, Brooklyn, and Bridge of Spies probably won’t win anything either. Cheer up, lots of great films don’t win awards. Time tends to sort out the classics from the non classics.
And even Oscar winners can most definitely fall into both of those classes.
The Martian, Brooklyn and BOS can console themselves with their box office earnings. Carol has a questionable Weinstein release & awards strategy resulting in only $12.4M in domestic box office plus the indignity of not winning anything all season.
Brooklyn: $34,076,253.
Wanna rethink that “consoling themselves with their earnings” statement?
On a $10M dollar budget, that’s a huge for an indie win. And it will do well in the ancillary streams. I’m sure Cate took a lower fee than usual but they still had to give her backend points. Plus Todd and Rooney can’t be super cheap either.
Carol should not have been nominated for any Baftas, and this is coming from someone who had it predicted to win 3 Awards, even for Writing!
Well, I think TR and BOS shouldn’t have been nominated for BP Wait, did you say BP or any award? If the latter, then you can’t be serious!
I think Carol deserved its Costume Design and Production Design nominations, but that’s literally it.
Such a superficial, style-over-any-kind-of-substance type of movie. ;(
heh-heh,
off topic: I remember a few days ago when Jacob buddied up in discussion with a hateful rampaging asshole who’s now been permanently banned – the only person we’ve had to permanently ban all year long.
You do have consistent taste, Jacob.
What “hateful rampaging asshole” are you referring to?
And actually quite a lot of people found Carol a pretentious, boring pile of crap.
You sure are quite the troll for someone who is supposed to be the “moderator”
Who did? The critics who have awarded it the highest score of any film last year or the people on AW who rank it third place behind only MM: and TBS?. You say you hate pretentious yet you like “The Revenant”.
I didn’t like The Revenant! Or are you talking to me, John Smith?
Revenant was too heartless and nihilistic for my personal tastes, although I loved Leo’s performance and thought it was an exceptionally well-made movie on a technical level. I mean, it was OKAY, but I don’t think its a masterpiece like Birdman was.
My mom who I apologized to after taking her to see it. One of my friends at Film Workshop named Katherine, who like me has supported equality all her life, “I live in San Francisco, I’m surrounded by lesbians” that’s Katherine. She thought it was a boring, superficial mess too!
Oh, and aren’t you the same guy who was trolling the Utah Film Critics Association when they didn’t give 12 Years A Slave BP, in spite of giving Chewitel Ejiofer (apologies if name is misspelled) their Best Actor Award? Your “Fun Fact” bullshit?!
Riiiiight, glad to know what to expect from you still. Here’s a real “FUN FACT” just because someone doesn’t like a movie you like doesn’t make them a hateful shithead. I have supported LGBT rights all my life! Ralph Galvan on Goldderby isn’t a homophobe, and he also hated Carol. Thought it was a pretentious trainwreck just like I did.
Carol being shutout makes me want to see it more the same for Brooklyn.
I still don’t think Star Wars: The Force Awakens is winning the Oscar for Best Visual Effects. Since The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, EVERY winner in that category has been a BP nominee. Hugo lost both the VES and Bafta, yet won the Oscar.
TFA has got to win something. I predicted it to win Visual Effects because its the only award it can win.
It’d be breaking a major trend if it does end up winning Visual FX.
See above. It’s already broken the trend.
It will only have broken the trend if it does win the Oscar, I made the mistake of predicting VES winner Dawn of the Planet of the Apes over Bafta winner Interstellar last year, but none of the movies were BP nominees, yet Interstellar felt the most like one.
Also, remember that Mad Max won the Critics Choice Award for Visual Effects. Also, the use of practical effects with the CGI helped Interstellar win, so why not MM: FR?
“The trend” I was referring to was VES. Their stat is the same as AMPAS: they always (yes, always) pick the BP in the main VES category when it’s nominated. Dawn of the Planet of the Apes didn’t beat a BP at VES because Interstellar wasn’t a BP. MMFR and The Martian were, and SWTFA beat both. People shouldn’t be surprised if Star Wars wins the Oscar, not after it just broke a stat that’s so similar to the one we all cling to about VFX. And yes, it’s still between SWTFA and MMFR, but in that order. (This doesn’t please me, by the way, I’d prefer Max).
Hugo didn’t lose at VES. It competed in Supporting vfx (like TR this year) and won. As I’ve mentioned before, Star Wars broke a VES stat this year in the main category by beating out two BP nominees: MMFR and The Martian. That’s never happened at VES. Never. SWTFA is the frontrunner at the Oscars, MMFR is second and TR is third (thanks for playing The Martian and Ex Machina but you have no chance).
It would be the final ‘fuck you’ to the most popular film in history. Entirely probable, and then the Oscars will take a massive generational hit in the 18-49 demo. They won’t come back, either. They see how their favorite movies are treated by an old white guy-dominated academy hopelessly biased against science fiction. They won’t get fooled anymore by an organization who stacks the deck against mainstream and critic successes like TFA, Hunger Games, Interstellar, Inception and Avengers.
Interstellar