Follow along as we update the Golden Globes Winners:
Motion Picture – Drama
Bohemian Rhapsody
Actor in a Motion Picture – Drama
Rami Malek, Bohemian Rhapsody
Actress in a Motion Picture – Drama
Glenn Close, The Wife!
Motion Picture – Musical or Comedy
Green Book!
Actress in a Motion Picture – Musical or Comedy
Olivia Colman, The Favourite
Limited Series or Motion Picture Made for Television
The Assassination of Gianni Versace
TV Series – Musical or Comedy
The Kominsky Method
Actress in a TV Series – Musical or Comedy
Rachel Brosnahan, The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel
Director – Motion Picture
Alfonso Cuaron, Roma
Actor in a Limited Series or Motion Picture Made for Television
Darren Criss, The Assassination of Gianni Versace
Foreign Language Film
Roma
Best Actor – Musical / Comedy
Christian Bale, Vice
Supporting Actress in a Series, Limited Series or Motion Picture Made for Television
Patricia Clarkson, Sharp Objects
Screenplay – Motion Picture
Green Book!
Supporting Actor in any Motion Picture
Mahershala Ali, Green Book
Actress in a TV Series – Drama
Sandra Oh, Killing Eve
Supporting Actress in any Motion Picture
Regina King! If Beale Street Could Talk
Original Score – Motion Picture
Justin Hurwitz, First Man!!
Original Song – Motion Picture
Shallow, A Star is Born
Actress in a Limited Series or Motion Picture Made for Television
Patricia Arquette, Escape at Dannemora
Supporting Actor in a Series, Limited Series or Motion Picture Made for Television
Ben Wishaw, A Very English Scandal
TV Series – Drama
The Americans
Actor in a TV Series – Drama
Richard Madden, Bodyguard
Motion Picture – Animated Film
Spiderman into the Spider-Verse
Actor in a Motion Picture – Musical or Comedy
Michael Douglas, The Kominsky Method
Anyone that has actually seen Green Book wouldn’t be surprised at all..!
Amidst the hysteria around GB & BR, it’s worth noting that a GG best pic win coincides with Oscar only 50% of the time. So they are as likely to lose with Oscar as they are to win. (Though nominations are highly likely.)
Since there are two of them, each of them is, in fact, a lot LESS likely to win BP than 50%. 🙂
Glenn Close is talked-of so much the past few days, I swear … if her studio were to put The Wife in like 1,000 theaters this weekend, I wouldn’t be surprised if it made multiple millions this weekend alone.
Globes afftemath:
The Gaga–excuse me, GA GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA–train is derailed. She will be lucky to get Oscar love of any kind. Looks like the same goes for Cooper. I cannot explain this lovefest for Bohemian Rhapsody. (Or Green Book.)
Spike Lee is not going to win anything. Neither is Black Panther.
I gave THE WIFE a re-watch on Sat. at the Village East here in Manhattan. For a movie that’s been out for almost a year (and is available on DVD), it had a sizable audience for a rainy morning show. You gotta hand it to Sony for keeping this film out there (as in, unlike A24 and Hereditary). Glenn Close is going to win the Oscar (even if Toni Collette is noiminated). This is a deserved win. In my perfect universe it would be a Close/Collette tie.
Olivia Colman is Close’s only real competition.
Christian Bale will hopefully prevail over Rami Malek.
I don’t care about the supporting categories anymore. Unless Alex Wolff gets nominated. Then I will care.
They’re going to give Cuaron Director and Foreign Film> YAWN.
The Spiderverse will take Animated. Song will probably be NOT anything from Mary Poopins.
I’m truly happy for Glenn Close. It is not a narrative just-give-it-to-her award. It is deserved. THE WIFE may well get multiple nominations, possilly some major ones besides Close.
Anyway, it does seem to be winding down.
Wait, so who wins Picture in this scenario? (Did you forget to mention it, or did you just think it was too obvious?)
I’d say, after today’s BAFTA noms, it will NOT be “BoRhap”. Other than that I’d guess hope for THE FAVOURITE or VICE but it looks like it could be GREEN BOOK.
Green Book’s a good prediction (I kinda’ like its chances to upset), although I think ASIB is an even better one. (You obviously disagree, so I don’t mean in your scenario, but just in general.)
GREEN BOOK
I still cant get over the fact that Amy Adams went home empty handed…..
It hurts really. Amy seems genuinely cool about these things but it was so bloody unfair. I hope she scores some wins at The Critics Choice Awards or The SAGs or preferably both.
she still might win. It’s always been a wild-card category and VICE seems to be very much still in the mix. Amy Adams will eventually win an Oscar, don’t worry.
And the HFPA really like her. Kinda surprised.
just woke up and stunned. You know what? With this result, anyone would be happy if best picture oscar goes to anything other than Bohemian Rhapsody. At the end they’ll be like, “well at least it’s not like the Globe”
sad
So… Sammy just died and went to heaven… 🙂 I’ve clearly underestimated just HOW popular BR is… And Queen – which I love to see, because they more than deserve it. 🙂
One thing I learned today is that, even with stats, the Globes are HARD to predict… (Which we all already knew, of course, except for the stats part.) Completely different beast from the Oscars. Too few people voting, too much variance. BR was a 100% anti-stats winner. It beat no less than three different VERY strong stats and one other pretty strong one. Another Hamlet ’48 moment?
The other three winners in the top categories were #1 stats favorite (Green Book in Comedy/Musical), #2 favorite I thought – and said repeatedly – would win (Cuaron), because the only stat he had to beat wasn’t very prohibitive, and #3 favorite I definitely didn’t think would win (Green Book in screenplay), but that also only had a single strong-ish but not prohibitive stat to beat. So, of course, not complete insanity, save for the one category. Just a lot of variance, like I said…
That’s why the Oscars are so much better to predict. The stats make sense, and they hold up, as much as possible, almost every time. But this was fun too.
A Star is Born did at least accomplish the minimal stats requirement for the Globes (which again isn’t prohibitive, but is of course a very useful clue almost every single year), as far as Oscar’s Best Picture is concerned, which is win at least one award. A feat neither BlacKkKlansman, nor Black Panther, could manage. Might be relevant. Is Bohemian Rhapsody really in second place? Even without the DGA nomination (which still isn’t happening)? Maybe… Probably not, though. Seems like a Globes kind of winner. Could be a fluke.
As for predictions, I got 9/14. I didn’t want to go for First Man in score, so as to not be doubly disappointed, and I of course don’t regret that. I didn’t think Regina would win. Screenplay and drama I already mentioned, and I also got wrong Best Drama Actress. I think Glenn Close just won the Oscar, with that reaction and speech, by the way. I’m more or less calling “lock” on the spot on this one.
I did get some things right that weren’t sure things – Green Book in comedy, with the stats (1/4 though – not good), Malek, Colman (Bale was easier), Ali (I was not sure AT ALL, but I just didn’t see a valid alternative), Cuaron, like I said, and animated, where Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse felt like the only contender people were actually excited about, in numbers… All of these were favorites for the pundits and such, it’s true, but so were ASIB in drama, Lady Gaga and The Favourite in screenplay, so I wouldn’t say that means as much as, say, for the Oscars.
Samberg and Oh mostly sucked, I thought. But probably due to the script, which was terribly forced and almost never funny. A lot of the speeches were great, though: Colman, Close, Bridges, etc.
By the way, I saw Green Book yesterday and liked it. Probably in my provisional top 5 (although on a ‘best of the year’ list, instead of a ‘favorites’ list, it would be lower). Also, the clips from The Favourite make me think I’ll love that one. It was already my most anticipated, of the ones not seen already, and now even more so. Ironically, I’ll probably have to wait the longest to see it, compared to the rest of the major Oscar contenders.
That’s all I’ve got for now. Time to go to bed. Oh, quick poll: who does everybody think is winning BP, right now, spur of the moment? My answer is still: A Star is Born.
I got 11/14 – a decent showing considering I missed Best Actress (glad I did) and Best Picture (definitely glad I did). Best supporting actress I should have gotten it but whatever.
Malek delivered a real powerful speech. I am hearing that he is by FAR a huge favorite at the SAG so the Oscar is his.
Right, Malek is also looking extremely close to locked. As anticipated.
Teriq Khan was right about that ….Malek will easily win Bafta too
Now is a good opportunity to bet on ASIB
I thought it would be Malek even before that. 🙂 It just made the most sense by far.
GAGA may still win yet
I don’t believe Close can lose after her reaction and speech tonight (which were just perfect), and with the overdue narrative in place. She needed to prove she could win, so people would know voting for her was a serious option and they wouldn’t be wasting their vote. The Globes were the perfect place to do that. She’s sweeping the season, for me. SAG, BAFTA (maaaybe not also Critics Choice, although I don’t see why not), then Oscar.
I think Colman still wins BAFTA. I agree Close probably wins SAG. Who knows about BFCA.
Yeah, I overreacted there a bit, I’ve realized in the meantime… I actually forgot about Colman. I was tired (it was like 7 in the morning over here). 🙂 But I still think Close has got to be the favorite after this Globes moment. But Colman might win, indeed.
Close is taking home an Oscar this year. I mourn for Toni Collette, but it appears that this horse is way out of the barn.
GA GAAAAAAAAAAAAA is not going to win an Oscar for BA. Not this year. And if she MUST wear those backless gowns, I wish she woud get rid of those old unsightly tattoos. Initially it appears she just hasn’t washed.
It doesn’t matter if she wins , her star appeal will still help push ASIB over the finish line ; moreover , if neither Coop nor Gaga are winning acting Oscars then ASIB must win BD to win BP ..that’s what’s likely to happen
11/14 is more than solid! There were a fair few surprises. 🙂
Yes this is merely a speedbump on the road to victory
Not even a speedbump, considering how terrible the Globes are at predicting BP. It might even help it.
It’s definitely helped Cooper to win BD by cutting him out of the BA race
How does it help Cooper win BD by cutting him out of the BD race?
If the voters recognise Malek as the likely winner of BA then they’ll concentrate their votes on Cooper to win BD
So what you really mean is it helps Cooper win BD if he’s viewed as being cut out of the BA race, not the BD race.
Which isn’t an unreasonable notion, I would say…
Or help ROMA too. 🙂
You think Roma could ever suffer from front-runner backlash? Yeah, I guess if Boyhood could, why not?!… 🙂 (As always, with the caveat: assuming that’s what happened there, and it didn’t just lose because they liked it less to begin with.)
I thought it was ASiB that is the frontrunner in your estimation? I meant that since you said that BR winning GG (instead of ASiB) it helped ASiB. Why not help ROMA too? Since it wasn’t named BP either (albeit for a different reason).
Yes, of course it is. In terms of predictions, stats, etc. But Roma could become the front-runner (if, for instance, it wins Critics Choice, PGA, DGA, BAFTA – which could easily happen). It’s certainly doing better in terms of critics awards wins already… Anyway, Roma not winning picture at the Globes was already a done deal, it was going to happen no matter what, and none of the five drama contenders winning instead would have changed that one bit. (If anything, going by the front-runner backlash theory, BR winning is worse for Roma than ASIB winning.) What does help Roma is, of course, the fact that Cuaron won. How much it helps remains to be seen. 🙂
The GG this year was always going to be a win-win for ROMA (provided he wins BD and naturally FLF). It was never going to win BP b/c it wasn’t competing so thus would avoid from the over-exposure and backlash.
As for ASiB, if backlash is a real phenomenon, GG was always going to be a lose-lose situation. If it wins, people would say yeah of course it would b/c for all the obvious reasons and then the ensuing backlash. If it loses, people would talk about why it lost when it was always supposed to win? Man, even the starf*ers like GG can’t even bring themselves to vote for it, why would the “high-brow” AMPAS would?
Losing the BP was one thing, but failing to take even one of the acting or directing has to be considered a rough night, however one like to spin it.
Sorry, I hit “send” by accident before I could write the actual replies. 🙂 I’m editing…
O.K., edited now, to include the replies.
“If it loses, people would talk about why it lost when it was always supposed to win?”
Is that a bad thing? 🙂
“Man, even the starf*ers like GG can’t even bring themselves to vo te for it, why would the “high-brow” AMPAS would?”
I can’t comment on that, as it would involve bringing up guild stats, which I’m not allowed to do. (I will do some quick research on an argument I’ve though of that doesn’t involve stats, and get back to you in a few minutes, hopefully.)
“Man, even the starf*ers like GG can’t even bring themselves to vote for it, why would the “high-brow” AMPAS would?”
Yeah, it seems you have a case, in terms of precedents. (I couldn’t find any counter-example in the SAG era, at least.) Guild and Oscar nominations might suggest otherwise, but we’ll have to wait and see. I would add one thing, though: giving picture drama and actor to Bohemian Rhapsody is pretty much just as starf***ery a move (given what a star Freddie Mercury was), Cooper winning director was always a long shot (which is why even I didn’t predict it, despite the Globes-only stats saying he was the slight favorite), since it was supported by almost no precursor wins, and Gaga they were able to give song, so the fact she lost actress might not mean that much in terms of what they thought of the movie. (They have an even more pronounced tendency to spread the wealth – give or take a La La Land outlier – than the Oscars.) Clearly, they didn’t love it as much as had been assumed they might, but if the immensely popular (probably in particular for the foreign press, seen as Queen is a British band, whereas Lady Gaga and Bradley Cooper are both American) Bohemian Rhapsody hadn’t existed (a movie that almost definitely won’t win the Oscar), then Cooper would have won, and ASIB would have won drama. (What else could have? BKKKM or Black Panther, which won nothing else?… Or Beale? I don’t think so.) And we wouldn’t be having this conversation. 🙂 Also, again, the Globes, starf***ers or not, are just terrible at predicting the Oscars. (In BP.)
Why is Cooper winning GG BD is such a “long shot”? For a starf*kng event such as this? They could have easily give it to him, since Cuaron was going to win FLF anyway? (Using your excuse about Gaga not getting BA).
Like I said, because NBR is the only thing he’d won before. (Unless I’m forgetting something.) And Cuaron had won almost everything else. Gaga hadn’t won much either, by the way. A little more than Cooper for BD, but she was definitely no Cuaron. It was far more legitimate, in that sense, to give it to someone else in her category, than it was in directing. The Globes do go completely nuts sometimes (clearly), but, even they, usually not to that extent.
Hardly.
Only 3 of the last 43 BP winners won no major Golden Globes (picture, director, screenplay, acting) – Spotlight, The Hurt Locker and Crash. Just re-checked the numbers on this one. This is the case for ASIB, BP & BKKKM now. Again not a prohibitive stat, so I’m not terribly worried about it… but it clearly is relevant. Or, let’s say, likely relevant. I’m not saying it’s not. I’m just saying the answer to that question is still ASIB. 🙂 And I don’t think it’ll change once I’ve had more time to think, either. (Of course, I can’t go into details – self-embargo and all that…)
For the record, for me prohibitive means 100% out of at least 20 years or so (which of course is still not enough, but shows enough potential to be assumed prohibitive), or 95% or more out of at least 30 or 40 or something like that.
I’m still with a Star Is Born, as we all mention Globes don’t mean much… But I am kinda tempted to jump ship to Roma (which would make me happy) because nobody dislikes it so it could do very well on the preferential ballot. This just made the season more fun!
I’ve thought it was between those two for ages now… But maybe Green Book shouldn’t be underestimated either. Still the late October pundit rankings stat seems the most prescient, as always…
I can imagine Green Book possibly winning , but ROMA ? , never
I don’t believe it either. Which (among many other things) is why I’m saying ASIB. But I had similar thoughts about Moonlight, and that won, so I’m not ruling it out.
I’ve said it once (or twice) here… Subject and style-wise, if a Moonlight can defeat a big favorite in La La Land, then a ROMA can defeat an ASiB.
Absolutely! The stats will tell the tale…
Roma is nothing like Moonlight
Speaking metaphorically, Roma is over engineered for the drivers
Critical reception-wise, it’s very much like Moonlight. Even thematically. Introvert main character that doesn’t quite belong, can’t quite fit in… Very artfully directed… I think the similarities are many.
Both Art House but one may put many voters to sleep
Depends how much they identify. That’s the big question for me. With Moonlight, the answer was “a lot”, clearly. It might be the same with Roma. (Although, again, I mostly doubt it.)
Before ML won, the question was how much the Hollywood people would identify with a story about a black, gay boy in poverty (with zero white saviors in sight mind you). Especially versus a story about LA artists. So I would caution about the identification question …
I know, exactly. That’s why I’m not ruling it out. But in my opinion they’ll identify with this story less. That’s what I felt when I saw it, and I can assure you I was thinking about how I’d gotten that assessment wrong with Moonlight the whole time! 🙂
If you work backwards and eliminate the ones that are unlikely to win then ASIB still wins by default
You don’t need to try and convince me. 🙂 But I don’t think ASIB is THAT likely either, in a vacuum. It, too, is somewhat atypical a potential winner, albeit less so than the others, clearly. It’s a close race. Which I love. I’m rooting hard for a complicated race, stats-wise. Like ASIB missing screenplay or something. I want action! 🙂
Not really. Green Book could be a kingspeech-esque “heart” win. Plus the remaining guilds may be wiser than precursors so far and push a deserving contender like The Favourite to the front. What is for sure is that ASIB isn’t the frontrunner at the moment. Could be in the future but not right now.
Then what is? I guess you mean Roma, right? I disagree on that, but of course a very sound case can be made for it. It’s a very reasonable assumption. I don’t know if such a case can be made for anything else. (Except, again, maybe Green Book.)
Oh it still is , Green Book and the Fav lost the SAG assemble
If you go to oddschecker.com oscars you’ll find it’s still the favourite among folks who risk their money
Moreover , since Roma is very unlikely to win BP without also winning BD then it’s got to smash TWO unbroken stats
I wouldn’t rely too much on the opinions of peeps who risk their money on Oscar bets.
Yep, Green Book and The Favourite lost out on the SAG ensemble nods. So did last year’s BP winner The Shape of Water.
But Shape was always going to win BD Oscar so it had the strength to recover …. Green Book and the Fav are never going to win the BD Oscar
I can easily see Lanthimos winning BD. He’s made some intelligent, admired films. Farrelly will be very lucky to be nominated.
“So did last year’s BP winner The Shape of Water.”
And none of the 20 before it… 🙂
That’s an argument I’ve made before and I agree. But stats have been falling like dominos lately and with this huge influx of new voters they could continue to fall this year, too. Not sure. We’ll know soon enough.
I don’t think things have changed THAT much. TSOW was NOT an anti-stats winner. Around 50% of winners have had one big miss. It’s not uncommon. Had something which had to break TWO major stats (that don’t cause each other or are related to each other) won, then it would have been a problem. But neither it, nor 3B, would have been anti-stats winners, so that wasn’t even close to happening. Something had to win, so the SAG stat got itself a brand new exception… The reason stats have been failing left and right for the last few years is, indeed (or at least in my opinion), that we’ve had no further NCFOM-type contenders (or even King’s Speech-type ones, if you ignore the critics awards stats, and The Hurt Locker is definitely another example, as is The Artist, as is Slumdog Millionaire, etc. – the 2000’s were full of those, more than previous decades) in this period of time – movies that just don’t miss anywhere of note and win everything they NEED to win. In the last 5-6 years even the strongest movies in the race, stats-wise, have had this or that problem. Hence, stats had to fail, since something had to win. Maybe it does signal a shift in the types of movies they award (no longer movies that are super-strong – enough to at least not be snubbed by either the guilds or AMPAS itself – in every single department the winners of old were super-strong in), but I doubt it means the stats themselves have become less relevant, in the sense of being able (when taken together) to predict what is actually strongest. But, like you say, we’ll know (more about this) soon enough… 🙂
Also Like Shape of Water, it has 2 individual acting nominations despite no nominations for Ensemble.
Green Book, you mean, right? Yeah, that’s probably important, indeed… 🙂 (I can comment on this, since SAG acting nominations, while still fairly important statistically, don’t factor into my predicting system for BP.)
Similar thoughts chances-wise. I liked Moonlight significantly more than Roma.
Oh totally it can win and as much as I’m made to feel like I should be opposed to that, it’s a charming movie and while it’s not on my best of the year list I’d be happy enough with it winning (I like it more than a star is Born anyway).By the way reading your post above I hope you like the favourite when you see it! I love it, it’ll definitely end up on my top 10 list when it’s finalised!
“it’s a charming movie and while it’s not on my best of the year list I’d be happy enough with it winning”
As always, we’re pretty much on the same page here too. 🙂 I do like ASIB a bit more. 4th and 5th on my favorites list. Like I said above or below or wherever it was, Green Book would be lower in terms of cinematic achievement alone (by my estimation), but it’s really enjoyable and has a good message. Nothing wrong with that movie. I don’t understand why some people be hatin’ on it. (The screenplay win is definitely a bit out of place, though, if you ask me. I don’t find that to be its strongest suit, necessarily. I’m not even sure what IS its strongest suit. The acting is very good, but I wasn’t THAT impressed. Probably just the overall product is what’s its strongest suit. Better than the sum of its parts.)
“By the way reading your post above I hope you like the favourite when you see it! I love it, it’ll definitely end up on my top 10 list when it’s finalised!”
It just looks so COOL, that movie… in so many ways!… 🙂 I could watch it right now, in lower quality (it’s online), but I don’t want to. I want to wait for the Bluray (or maybe they actually bring it to my local theater, but I doubt it). I want the full experience.
Everyone who hates the art of cinema must have died and gone to heaven as well lol. I mean what an embarrassing way to end the night, complete disgrace.
I’ve narrowed it down to four 🙂 : Roma, A Star Is Born, The Favourite, Green Book, .maybe Roma tops.
I think BlacKkKlansman is a bit more likely than The Favourite, so I’d definitely add it to the list. Also, Black Panther and Bohemian Rhapsody haven’t yet been knocked out of contention – though I, too, don’t believe in either of them winning. But it seems marginally plausible. If one is being pedantic, the same applies to Vice and Crazy Rich Asians (industry stats-wise, I mean), although those seem even less likely to win.
Intensely nostalgic for 2016 when BP was between LLL, Moonlight & Manchester. 2017-18 is a mess.
”Bohemian Rhapsody’s” Drama win is a shocker. All 27 pundits at GoldDerby picked ”A Star Is Born.”
However, ”Green Book’s” Comedy win is NOT a shocker: 20 of the 27 pundits at GoldDerby called it.
Both of these wins are not examples of GG getting it right. But keep in mind it’s only 90 people.
Roma is winning DGA, Cinematography, and it has Foreign Film wrapped up. That’s 3 Oscars to start with. I mean, it’s hard not to pick it solid.
Tell me if ANYONE can beat it in Directing, Cinematography and Foreign Film. It’s admired, loved by the critics.
And the actors will pick Rami Malek as their guy. And also Glenn Close.
Has ANY Best Picture contender ever disappeared its own Director the way BR has with Singer. Even the Pianist didn’t do that.
I must commend their campaign. It’s very impressive! Though winning this could bring a massive backlash campaign!
Especially after all the Time’s Up backslapping. Christ, Bryan Singer stories go back DECADES in LA.
You know as well as I do that if a backlash happens they will just claim “eh but that’s why we fired him and that’s why he may have started it but was NOT the one who finished the film you all love so much”.
They only fired him because he walked off the set when his buddy Spacey got outed as a creep.
We know that but they will clearly spin it differently.
All it will take is ONE kid from a Singer/Spacey party to go on Good Morning America with a story to tell.
That could cost the campaign the BP nod but I think Malek is solid regardless. Also, if any of Singer’s victims go public I sincerely hope it will lead to a conviction. And hefty damages.
I think Malek is home free, but he’s been clearly coached not to even talk about Freddie Mercury BEING a singer lest it reminds people of the last name of the director who is not to be named.
So did ”A Star Is Born” blow it by submitting itself as a Drama?
Would it have done much better (and won more than 1 Globe) in Comedy/Musical? For the record, the 1976 ”Star Is Born” won FIVE Golden Globes: Comedy/Musical; Best Actress (Barbra Streisand); Best Actor (Kris Kristofferson); Best Score and Best Song (”Evergreen”). The 1954 ”Star Is Born” won TWO Golden Globes: Best Actress (Judy Garland) and Best Actor in a Comedy/Musical (James Mason).
Hard to say. They awarded BP to film without Directing and Writing nominations. But it’s great to see that after Me Too, the industry is back to its full hypocrite form and will award a film that it will pretend directed itself.
I still find it incredibly difficult to believe that rival campaigns won’t make Singer more front and center
I think nobody was taking the movie seriously. Let’s see what happens now.
Oh OF COURSE they will. Weinstein may be out but the rest of the smear campaign enthusiasts will be out in full force any moment now. It was never only him, it was basically every damn studio / distributor. Key difference being that Singer does deserve the backlash.
Almost 20 years later Polanski’s Oscar is cited by people as a reason ratings began to dive for the broadcast. An Academy THAT concerned about public perception is being foolish at best that Singer isn’t a problem here as long as no one says his name.
Despite some shitty winners, Cuaron, Close, Coleman, First Man in score, King (sight unseen I praise that win) among others were very inspired choices! I was expecting it to be terrible so it was better than I expected.
Bohemian Rhapsody might not win BP but nor is A Star is Born and definitely not Black Panther.
Clear SWEEPING advantage – Roma. The movie is not offending anyone – it has great critics support, it’s winning Director, Cinematography and Foreign Film. It’s over.
Rami Malek will WIN Best Actor.
Glenn Close will win Best Actress – finally.
And First Man will win Original Score.
Boom. There.
Right. The Best Director Award tonight is the true Best Picture Award.
A foreign language film winning Best Director at the Globes has never happened
That’s just not true. Diving Bell and the Butterfly did it most recently in 2008.
Ah, but Schnabel is American
Julian Schnabal did not win the Oscar in 2008. The Coen Brothers won for No Country For Old Men.
Ang Lee for Crouching Tiger and Julian Schnabal. Why did you say this without looking it up first?
Faulty memory I guess.
You can’t declare that for sure you no idea neither do I. What we do know it more even playing field than we thought I actually rapt/ regret deeply not seeing bohemian rhapsody it deserved to win but feel for black panther rhapsody has had critical and commercial success ….and real genuine modern day musical no issue with it winning at Oscars too this boost it chances . what a blow to 3- peat overblown remake of star is born pundits got that wrong big time.
In .Even field black panther may yet be king if cultural phenomenon factor is what put it a part from others …which indeed it does but wow! What boost for ‘green book’ too.
In snubbing star is born globes went for originality good on them won my respect for this year anyway still shiulda been panther hard done by globes they were
Profound overreaction on picture… 🙂
Quick thoughts – I think the narrative about BlacKkKlansman and Black Panther missing out will help boost them above Bohemian Rhapsody and Green Book.
Also, you have to go all the way back to 2009 where a film that won Best Comedy/Musical didn’t make it into the Best Picture race (The Hangover).
Roma I think is in the lead, if it had been eligible for drama it would have won. A foreign language film winning Director is enormous
Maybe, but the Best Director doesn’t always match up with Best Director at the Oscars. Plus, Cuaron will win in other areas on the night.
I wonder if now is the time for BlacKkKlansman to shine – only the SAG’s will tell really.
Yep. It has no haters. Apart from people complaining about it being a Netflix film. So what?! I saw it in the theatre and it had amazing visuals and sound. Definitely made for the big screen.
[I’m just going to copy-paste my reply to Idle Time:]
Over BR? When there was clearly SO much passion for it? I very much doubt it…
They split quite often, as I’m sure you’re aware. And this is with TWO picture categories in play…
It just shows how *weak* ASiB actually is.
I think it shows not that it’s weak but that it has never been as strong as the fandom / pundits pretended it was. I’ve been yapping about this since October and its fanboys thought I was trolling. I wasn’t, I was just being reasonable af.
You and me both. It was all a publicity stunt calling it a frontrunner.
I’m so happy ASIB being shut down, but Bohemian Rhapsody and Green Book taking the gold makes it the worst choices I’ve seen the Globes make recently. Just embarrassing.
Goddamn it. I fucking knew it!!
someone care to direct me to the sharp objects ?
Now that was a speech
Or what if Malek wins and then they pick Bohemian Rhapsody. Wouldn’t that be something? I mean, A Star is Born only won Song so far, so…
Right on.
Thoughts on my girl Glenn.
1. SO well-deserved.
2. Fatal Attraction reunion!
3. Breaks my heart / makes my blood boil that at this stage in her legendary career she is THIS stunned that she could win.
4. Yeah, peeps, now THAT is a standing ovation.
5. Wonderful, heartfelt speech. She better FOKIN win that damn Oscar at last!
P.S. Gaga won the category she should have won. Kudos.
YES! So great to see Glenn Close win.
ONTO THE OSCAR.
Honestly, this and a possible Spike Lee nomination (and win) are the two awards I care about this season.
So it’s now a Glenn Close v Olivia Colman race. Which is great, but poor Colman as there’s no way she can outdo Close.
I loved Colman but if it is down to these two, Close deserves it because she actually had to carry her film.
The person I’m happiest for is Colman. She truly deserves that Oscar next month. Close is very good in The Wife, and Gaga is a lightning bolt in Star Is Born. But Colman; what a work of imagination that is! It’s absolutely brilliant work, and in a stunning film. Her performance is going to live on, and it would be perfect for her to win. I wish she had run in supporting, i don’t think there would’ve been any contest whatsoever in that case, and then Gaga could have won as well and all would’ve been great. But tonight I”m just happy that Colman won her group. I haven’t been that impressed by a performance in awhile. It tore me up. She’s a major talent, and when you have a performance like that it makes me sick when the person doesn’t win.
It’s been 15 years or so now since Samuel L. Jackson was nominated for playing Jules in Pulp Fiction. One of the most electric film performances of all time. When he didn’t win there were so many people that said the same thing…” well, he’ll have plenty of other opportunities and will be great again, he’ll get his Oscar at some point”.
Two things: 1, that has nothing to do with him not winning for the incredible role he played, and 2, no, he hasn’t come close to getting a whiff of another chance. And even if he did, the fact that he was one of the most memorable characters in all of film history was not recognized. Way to go Academy. The point is, when these kind of performances show up, you’ve got to recognize them. Don’t screw it up. Queen Anne is one of those kind of performances.
Congratulations to Olivia.
I agree with all you say on Colman, who was extraordinary. She also gave a charming GG speech. But in view of Close’s touching humility and spectacular speech seen by all in the industry last night parlayed into her long overdue status, I see her now as the absolute frontrunner.
Glenn Close is hands down, right now, the absolute frontrunner. After that inanely great speech, she is most likely unstoppable.
Insanely. Sorry, Glenn.
She’s going to have an amazing year, with The Crown coming out soon as well. Queen Olivia.
“It’s been 15 years or so now since Samuel L. Jackson was nominated for playing Jules in Pulp Fiction.”
15 years? (re: SLJ)
Try 25.
What the hell is this guy doing
had anyone mentioned that this might create another argo-effect to a film which I’m not sure yet which one?
To A Star is Born? Absolutely
Colman delivered the better performance (even if the role is smaller) and I’m ecstatic she won but I do feel a bit bad for the HFPA fuckup of giving presentation duties to two of Emily Blunt’s best industry girlfriends, Hathaway and Chastain, thus clearly sending the wrong signals Blunt would win.
Rachel Brosnahan clearly needs a movie, drama or comedy.
I wanna see Malek win – it will be such a pleasant surprise – and it will set up a nice battle between him and Bale. Both movies don’t have great reviews but Bohemian Rhapsody is so beloved.
Bohemian Rhapsody will close its worldwide theatrical run with an utterly shocking 800M. It also got much-coveted BP nods from the HFPA, PGA and SAG (well, their BP equivalent anyway). Malek is a damn strong contender this season.
I think that if he wins today and SAG, it will be very difficult to stop him. But let’s wait and see.
There is a strong argument he could sweep.
Golden Globe – HFPA seems to be very into BH (surprise BP nod)
SAG – he could have both TV (MR. ROBOT) and film people supporting him
Bafta – film is a massive hit in the UK
It’s not really that shocking when you see Queen still selling out stadiums with a different singer.
It is making twice as much as ASIB that had rave reviews and massive star power, two crucial luxuries BH didn’t have.. To me that’s shocking.
ASIB doesn’t hold up to repeat viewings. Bohemian Rhapsody does.
Agreed.
I think we all know that rave reviews means little nowadays, and star power is not much either given Lady Gaga doesn’t really cross generations in the way that Queen do. All I’m saying is that people went to Bohemian Rhapsody because it was Queen – that’s it. Quality and star power mean nothing nowadays – it’s all about brand recognition.
Holy shit it made that much lol
I was stunned, too. It is at 743M and still just had a 20M worldwide weekend and all this before the buzz from televised awards shows even kicked in.
D’Oh! I guess I should check out The Kominsky Method now.
Eh, The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel is much MUCH better. No sophomore slump there.
Oh good. That’s where my heart is right now on Season 1. I’m falling in love with Rachel Brosnahan. She’s so damn great in that show.
I feel like I’ve been with you alot this afternoon and tomorrow is no different! I am thinking the same thing!
The nice thing is if it’s really that good, we can binge it and don’t have to wait for new episodes. 🙂
Matthew Rhys and Keri Russell were just sneaking back to their table holding hands. I’m gonna pretend they got bored, too, and just snuck out to fool around a bit. If the show won’t make me giggle, I guess I just have to fend for myself here.
OK, while Spike would have been epic, Alfonso Cuaron is always a solid choice. This category could have gone SO much worse.
Darren Criss is talented. Somehow still annoys me, has that rehearsedaf-fauxoverthetop-stagekid vibe I get from Gaga, too. Doesn’t take a thing away from their accomplishments, just a vibe that tends to bug me.
Patricia Clarkson all around pro. Talented nominees all around.
Not only did they snub Amy Adams twice, but then they had the gall to reward her Sharp Objects co-star. Yikes!
EDIT: And now they’ve awarded her Vice co-star!
And this is bad because? She is great all around Actor.
Classy guy but I was a Driver binch
Ali one of the worst category fraud wins. He is co-Lead.
Actor in a Motion Picture – Musical or Comedy
Michael Douglas, The Kominsky Method
This is a mistake…
My vote was for Julia Roberts for positioning her paws all over Trevante Rhodes. Magnificent.
omg Big Little Lies season 2?! Hope its good
What’s wrong with me ? The BLL quintet in that (clearly imaginary) police lineup and my gurl Dany in Winterfell gave me bigger highs than anything happening on the Golden Globe stage so far. And I don’t even hate any of the winners, all are fine, just don’t excite me for some reason. It may have happened at last : after 20 years, am I an awards season burnout ?
You and I both, brother. Muted season. Where is the discourse. I mean the real motherfucking discourse.
Gone with the wind. Maybe if the actual fokin masterpieces like Beale Street or The Favourite were sweeping, we would be excited. But right now I’m slightly concerned there will be 5-6 BP nominees in the end that I personally wouldn’t rate above a 6.5 even on a good day.
That’s a good winner. I’m on board with this. I was annoyed last time this dude won, admittedly lol
Fuck yeah, First Man wins Original Score. Justin Hurwitz going for that second Oscar in three years!
This 100% at least they have done something right! Even if I imagine it’s all downhill from here this and Spiderverse were great picks!
Hurwitz a good role model how to give an acceptance speech. Concise
Best win of the night for me, obviously…
omg just saw Luke Hedges he looks amazing
I’ve been looking for him all night! Not fair. And I sat through all of E’ s red carpet shtick. At least they gave us a glance of Timmy’s amazing look
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a5477a6371b2bb483507781349854e4e00b148c0c5fcd52a9d172f1080587e97.jpg
can you guys explain a bit to me why they’re so popular in this site? Always a bit confused about this. Sure, they’re good actors and chalamet probably should win last year, but still, many others also good.
Yes yes yes yes yes yes
Adam Driver!!! Love him. Hope he wins. (or Sam Elliott)
Now I really want that THREE STOOGES remake with Colman, Weisz and Stone
“Nyuck nyuck nyuck. Watch it knucklehead.” “No YOU watch it chowderhead. Nyuck nyuck nyuck.” 😛
I missed Ricky Gervais
The current hosts aren’t that bad. It’s very PG-13 humor but that’s exactly what the producers were going for this time around
Yeah, I guess they’re not bad, but I’m looking to being entertained when I watched TV, and Ricky’s humor is one of the few that really appeals to me
To quote Trinity Taylor: “Where. Are. The jokes”
Me too. (Is he a creep? I don’t wanna get in trouble). Or Tina and Amy.
To me Ricky was just more like an outright jerk. But humor can be so damn challenging.
Idk, I don’t follow celebrity news too much
Same. I thought Clooney was the one being honored 2 hours ago lol
huh? which award? I don’t get it
the career legacy award or whatever
I think it’s going to Jeff Bridges tonight
yup
He was pretty transphobic in his latest Netflix special.
You know you’re watching the Golden Globes when you’re 30m in and have only gotten one category right. The unpredictable HFPA at its finest.
Well said! 🙂
So was Atlanta not eligible?
Donald Glover was nominated so must have been, shame the show itself wasn’t
So glad I was wrong with my Animated Feature prediction!
The only challenge is for Spider-Man to get the nomination.
It was pretty funny to see a team from Marvel handing an award over to a team from Marvel.
Don’t know if anyone has seen on Twitter, but Elsie Fisher got a ton of slack for her opinion. She’s NOT WRONG. People can go fuck themselves for being so mean!
https://twitter.com/ElsieKFisher/status/1082139504842960896
Well that makes me sad.
Me too! It’s soul crushing.
Sasha, among others, came to Elsie’s rescue.
Sasha is one of the heroes left. I was so happy by that. Marshall did too. Both are true blue good people. 🙂
https://twitter.com/filmystic/status/1082149665267744768
You are a hero too Ryan! I loved what you said to her. I hope the takes that advice and blocks those people who tore her down.
LOL! “Hey look guys, I defended that bullied 15 year old girl, too! I am also a hero! NOTICE ME SENPAIS!”
Yes, I’m showing how easy it is to help an embattled kid know that she has supporters.
Only takes a minute.
You, on the other have wasted your minute mocking me for trying to help her feel better.
Am I glad about how I spend my time? Proud to have made the effort? Yes.
Are you proud of yourself for being a drive-by prick? Probably. Congratulations.
This. Some of the best…
I think people directing their anger at Elsie Fisher in light of Bryan Fisher and Bohemian Rhapsody should read these tweets: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c0e8197211e05ce7f13270d34a37a55136caa743ce0f322fbe6cf73959112267.jpg
He’s so right about this. It makes no difference if she knew or not. She was just praising a film for winning awards, and then people got mad at her for praising a film that just happened to have a director who has acted with much to get upset about, but not blame Elsie Fisher for not knowing that. It’s really despicable how people jumped on her just for having a great night.
Social media and hashtag activism can be a double edged sword.
It’s a real quagmire for sure. It’s hard to know what side is right sometimes because things get blurred. I think tonight, we know for sure who’s “right”. Elsie Fisher gave her opinion, and she was right for how she felt. But I also get a feeling like she’ll take this night and turn it into something positive and hopefully creative.
“It makes no difference if she knew or not.”
“…but not blame Elsie Fisher for not knowing that.”
So which one is it, because I see a little inconsistency here? Sure, one has a right to not know about Singer and not getting shit for liking BR. But does knowing about Singer automatically denies you the right to like BR? I personally think the movie is crap, but I’d rather nail my dick to a burning building, than say “you are forbidden to like this movie”. And knowing about Singer has nothing to do with it. You are allowed to enjoy the movie regardless.
“but I’d rather nail my dick to a burning building, than say “you are forbidden to like this movie”.”
Extreme… but I agree. 🙂
Ok Green Book wining Best Motion Picture Comedy or Musical is OK, but screenplay? Hell no! And Bohemian Rhapsody, wow that was just the most ridiculous thing to ever happen especially if it’s up against the likes of If Beale Street Could Talk. It pains me to see Amy Adams only being thanked by her costars who won, especially in a year where she delivered 2 powerful and masterful performances in movie and tv. Patricia Araquette was great and fantastic in Escape at Dannemora but it was Amy Adams who delved deep into character, flawlessy portrayed the inner turmoil and powerfully displayed the quiet strength of her character Camille in Sharp Objects. A Star is Born lack of wins, although I don’t like the movies, still baffles me.
Except she was too glamorous. Had a blowout in every scene. And did not attempt to sound like someone who was from Missouri. Also, for someone playing a journalist, she didn’t even use a tape recorder.
Are you sure we saw the same limited series? If yes then You should rewatched it again dude, seems like youre missing a lot of things.
I really SHOULD go to sleep, like I said I would. 🙂 See y’all tomorrow!
Good night Claudiu. 🙂
Thanks! It was a pretty good night. 🙂
Good night, Claudiu. Thank you as always for your contributions.
Thank you! 🙂
Let’s remember that what matters more to predict the Oscars is what happens with SAG, PGA, and DGA. No reason to panic.
Ok. Right now I’d say the major categories go something like this:
BP: Roma
BD: Spike Lee – while Cuaron is the favourite, I’m not convinced he’s going to win here
Best Actor: Malek
Best Actress: Close
Best Supporting Actor: Ali (although Richard E. Grant is still there, and in a less ‘problematic’ film)
Best Supporting Actress: King
Best Adapted Screenplay: BlacKkKlansman
Best Original Screenplay: The Favourite
A Star is Born walks away with Best Song.
Agree but think it will be Bale in the end
I’d like that. He’s superb in Vice.
Roma can’t win without a Screenplay win or Director win or both.
Sure can. Anything is possible. I know that screenplay is more often tied to Best Picture, but with Cuaron winning Cinematography, I think there could be a chance it doesn’t get Director or Screenplay.
I just see the narrative for a Spike Lee win starting to ramp up between now and nominations. Like Close, it’ll be the ‘overdue’ narrative, whereas Cuaron has an Oscar.
Then he wins Original Screenplay (which I doubt). I can’t remember the last time that a film won BP with only winning one other technical award. It hasn’t happened recently.
True, this just seems to be a really strange year where anything can happen.
Lee has a Governor’s Award from the Academy. The nomination for Blackkklansman will be his first, and the only other time he truly deserved it was for Do the Right Thing. They do not “owe” him, and Cuaron has deservedly won virtually everything there is to win, even when Roma has lost Best Picture. Cuaron is more locked for Director than the film is for picture.
On the other hand, Glenn Close will earn her 7th nomination, which will make her the most nominated actress in Academy history without winning, for a major performance that got a Globe. Several of her losses remain iconic. And the NY and London theater communities, many of whom are Academy members, also love her (3 Tonys). Sure Olivia can still win for what is really a large supporting role (in which she was superb), but it’s really Glenn’s to lose.
What I’m trying to actually say is Roma is winning Best Picture because it’s winning Best Director like Shape of Water last year. An Oscar BP winner always has either Screenplay or Director win or both.
Not always…
Yeah but it is Such a rare case where the best picture doesnt win any of the two.
This is correct, of course. 🙂 It’s very rare. But there are multiple exceptions, so it’s definitely not always. Chicago and Gladiator are, I think, the most recent. Which isn’t THAT far back…
jajaja roma is winnign best picture and best director like shape of water did last year and because I say so, such a solid argument to defend a weak movie…
It’s not a “say so” but it’s a fact. Once in a blue moon The Academy awards a Best Picture to a film who doesn’t win either a best screenplay or best director or both.
”Bohemian Rhapsody” just won Best Drama without a Screenplay or Direction NOMINATION at the Globes. Wonder how rare that is.
”Bohemian Rhapsody” just won Best Drama without a Screenplay or Direction NOMINATION at the Globes. Wonder how rare that is.
All excellent choices and I agree with you except on Lee. His scowling looks last night underline a problem he has with public relations. Mind you I love him and adore Do the Right Thing, Malcolm X and Blackkklansman, but I see zero chance he can overhaul Cuaron, who is rightly winning everything in sight. Lee’s film is critically praised but with the Black Panther factor included there just won’t be the voting power for it. I think Cuaron is one of the locks.
Starts in about an hour. 8 Eastern. I’ve got some rather strong links, but I want to know from Ryan (or anybody else involved with the site), if he happens to catch this post (never been 100% sure exactly how site moderation works), if it’s O.K. to post them AND if, in case I do, there’s a high probability some interested parties might subsequently block said streams before the ceremony is even done, to the ruin of all, so to speak.
I think it’s probably O.K. to post them, based on previous years, but I’d rather have some confirmation first. 🙂 Not least because streams seem to be getting blocked more often and more quickly these days…
Gopher it.
Thanks! I’ll post above.
So sad about the lack of love for the INCREDIBLE Amy Adams, let alone in another tour de force of a year both on tv and cinema with her phenomenal work in Sharp Objects and Vice. Glad at least to see Patricia Clarkson rewarded for her astonishing work in Sharp Objects. Wonderful speech as well, Amy was in tears of joy.
She’s been nominated NINE times for Golden Globes and has at least won two. Barbra Streisand and Denzel Washington have the exact same record! (Nine nominations, two wins) So although I”m sure she’s disappointed, that’s such a remarkable achievement.
I would be surprised if Amy Adams were disappointed. She always strikes me as someone level-headed enough not to REALLY care about these things and understand that being in da club and just in a position to play roles that could get her even the nominations let alone wins, is the real victory here.
She’ll get hers next year with Woman in the Window (I hope)
Joe Wright is good with actors (Knightley’s first nod, Ronan’s first nod, Oldman’s first win) so hopefully he will do the trick for Adams. The role is dynamite, the positioning of the film is promising (studio release in October) so all in all, it should be a good Oscar bid for Adams.
And she even looks like she’s campaigning for Regina to win! Her performance in Sharp Objects is masterful and powerful but I think it’s just not the HFPAs cup of tea.
I was watching Access’ coverage of Red Carpet and she literally joked she wishes she loses all the awards she was nominated for because of her terrible stage fright. She’s cute and honest af. Not to mention a powerhouse of an actor that deserves every award in the world.
Yesss! I hope The Woman in the Window is a GREAT material where she could showcase her immeasurable talent.
Me too man. Here’s hoping 🙂
Psst! Don’t get your hopes up too high. The book for WITW was a pulpy beach read and a Rear Window knockoff.
I am putting my hopes up to every Amy Adams movie and I’m always not disappponted. It doesn’t matter if it’s a puply beach read as long as it is solidly adapted. This is directed by Joe Wright. Amy is starring alongside 2 academy award winners Julianne Moore and Gary Oldman who won his Oscar last time for his movie Darkest Hour directed by the same director.
WITW is a very fun thriller read (it is full of great movie references). Adams is ideally cast. It will all come down to how they adapt it, and the direction. I’m looking forward to it.
Fully agree, actually refreshing to see.
It definitely is. Still, this was a remarkable year for her so as a fan of her superb work can’t hide my disappointment watching her lose not one or two but three Golden Globes in the same night (counting Sharp Objects’ Best Mini-Series nomination where she’s been a producer).
Hell yeah!! Way to go Sasha!!! Great job.
https://twitter.com/GoldDerby/status/1082139371720056832
Green Book, which I really really liked, is gonna get some noms that some maybe aren’t suspecting. I think Cardelini might sneak in for supporting actress. That’s my NGNG.
I’ve been thinking about her chances, too, especially after tonight. Ali and Farrelly both made sure to single her out as the heart of the film and if Oscar voters go for the movie as hard as I think they will, that could lead to an SLP/jackieweaver-esque nod in supporting actress. With the notable difference being that Cardellini actually had stuff to do in her film and wasn’t just background noise in screaming matches between the male actors.
Totally. Jackie Weaver. Maggie Gyllenhaal. Janet McTeer. Noms that weren’t really expected but got swept up in the other noms for actors with big roles.
And I do love Linda Cardellini, such an underrated character actress. Just look at the range she delivered this year alone, in Green Book (50s housewive with a heart of gold) and A Simple Favour (edgy lesbian painter with a mean streak). Both New Yorkers but boy, light years apart in every other way.
And Bloodline to boot! Not this year obviously but just her range.
She was GREAT in Bloodline.
Her time is coming. She was aces in Brokeback Mountain.
There were some wins I was really happy about: Patricia Clarkson, Patricia Arquette (although I would have picked Adams), Regina King, and Bale. And I honestly think it’s a photo finish between Colman and Close for actress now with Close in the lead with that speech.
But…the Green Book and Bohemian Rhapsody love I just don’t get….but we have known for months that the HFPA loved loved loved Rhapsody so probably shouldn’t be TOO shocked.
So the big losers of the night were probably Vice and Star Is Born? They each won one, but they came in as the virtual front-runners. And BlackKKlansman showed up nowhere.
This night was no big deal for Black Panther (who will benefit from the Oscar’s many tech categories).
Yes, but Black Panther will not have a directing or writing nomination which ends things.
I would not count it out yet for a BD nomination.
Can you imagine the shit show if BR wins Best Picture seemingly being directed by no one. Don’t you think someone from Team Lee or Coogler will point out that a movie directed by a purported pedophile and sexual abuser has a better chance at Oscar glory as long as the director is white?
MeToo and Time’s Up indeed
”BlacKKKlansman” and ”Black Panther” got skunked. And if Regina King hadn’t won Supporting Actress, ”If Beale Street Could Talk” would’ve joined them.
”BlacKKKlansman” and ”Black Panther” got skunked. And if Regina King hadn’t won Supporting Actress, ”If Beale Street Could Talk” would’ve joined them.
I’m calling the gravedigger for ASIB. If it can’t win where it was all set up to at the Globes, the Oscars will only give it the same award Babs’ version won, Best Song. Why have people been deluded for so long about this film?
there just seems to be a lot of people who love ASIB because they’re very very loud. especially the gaga fans.
You’re just digging yourself a hole
I don’t think so. I think losing the Globes was the best thing to happen to ASIB. I expected them to lavish it with several wins, and thus the film would get a giant target on its back. One that it would be unable to overcome. But instead, Green Book and Bohemian Rhapsody have the target, and will have to fend off the think pieces and bashing from film twitter. Just like in the last 2 years, a presumed frontrunner based off of Globe wins (ie La La Land , Three Billboards) is skunked because it becomes divisive. A Star is Born is now waiting in the wings for people to say “well what about that movie??” Plenty of Oscar voters would rank BR or GB last, but I dont see ASIB as many people’s last place pick. Roma or Black Panther could benefit from this scenario in similar ways, and I still think that trifecta are the three at the top.
This is hilarious. Gaga fans say losing was the best thing for ASIB because it will create a sympathy vote (which is wrong), while if it won they would’ve said “See! The town is behind it!”. Bottom line, enjoy the song Oscar then get out of the way and watch the bigger dogs eat.
Please find a comment I’ve made anywhere where I’m fangirling for Gaga. I’m not the droid you’re looking for. I cover awards for a different website and look at these things practically and consider recent trends. I also didn’t refer to this as a sympathy vote at all. I’m making a connection to say that Green Book and/or Bohemian Rhapsody are the Three Billboards or La La Lands of this year. And because they now have massive targets on their backs, a movie that will be everyone’s #2 or #3 choice (but few peoples last choice) will overtake them for picture. ASIB is one of the films that I think can do that, along with Roma and Black Panther.
Maybe people were deluded about knowing so well what the Globes were likely to go for, instead?!
The gravedigger is too busy with BlackKKKlansman, Black Panther and poor Mary Poopins. ASIB still has a pulse, but it is faint.
What a way to end the night. They should be ashamed, they really should. The winners were fine in most cases (Malek’s win after Glenn’s win didn’t sit that well with me but whatever) but to make things worse BP Drama comes and here we go, probably the worst pick in decades or something. Like oh my God, shame on them. Films like The Favourite, Roma, First Man among the nominated films of the night, all the four pictures losing looking like Andrei Rublev or something next to the winning film but that’s it folks, Bohemian Rhapsody is the Best Picture winner. Suggestion: It should also sweep The Oscars along the entire awards season and solidify The Oscars and all the pre-Oscars shows’ place as more prestige versions of The People’s Choice Awards. I mean what the actual fuck, that was truly embarrassing to watch. Every award until the last two was fine but those last two, oh my goodness, atrocious.
LOL re: Andrei Rublev. Now there’s a true masterpiece, of course ignored by the Academy back in the day. Roma towers over everything this year, and no foreign language film has ever won (I don’t think The Artist counts, even though it was mostly a French creation as it was silent). During the first 40 years over Oscars, only one foreign-language film was even nominated, another all-time masterpiece, Grand Illusion, only to lose to virtually forgotten You Can’t Take It With You. It will be interesting to see what they do, especially with the new membership. Go Roma!
Go Roma indeed man. Best film of the year BY FAR. Cuaron is a real genius.
Very happy with:
– Colman
– Roma winning 2
– Hurwitz
– Spider-man
– Shallow
Very unhappy with:
– Green Book winning BP and Screenplay
Facts:
All stats point to Bohemian Rhapsody winning the Best Picture Oscar. It won the Golden Globe, it’s nominated by SAG and PGA, and Rami Malek might win Best Actor.
There will be a backlash though. Kind of what happened to Lala Land and 3 Billboards.
I’d be shocked if there isn’t one, and yeah, look at those last few. Sad.
Those stats will become irrelevant though when it fails to score Oscar nods in writing and directing. A filler BP nod and a Malek win is its best scenario. Hopefully.
I sure hope you’re right Phantom. It’s the whole preferential ballot thing that’s got me screwed up though. Ugh.
It’s not going to have a Screenplay or a Director nomination, let alone a win.
True. Great point Aroncido. Thank you. 🙂
A film without Directing and writing nominations? Please… don’t overestimate it.
Those are good facts too JP! Thanks 🙂
I needed that.
If Bryan Singer gets nominated the Academy can copy paste the PGA nomination, get Tom Hanks and Oprah to host and still the disaster will be inevitable, the ratings will be a catastrophe.
It could be an enormous shit show. Woof
Phew… Those trivia give me some sort of hope as well lol. I mean watching this mediocrity that Bohemian Rhapsody is getting THIS kind of awards attention, let alone next to films like The Favourite and If Beale Street Could Talk and First Man and Roma, I mean for fuck’s sake, shame on the awardrs groups.
But what other category is it even a contender in? ESPECIALLY because of the Singer thing.
I can see it contending strong in both Production Design and Cinematography. But that might be giving it too much credit.
Two awards Roma will win
That would be so poetic. Yes please!
Those are SO far from being all (or even most of) the facts!… 🙂 No Critics Choice nod, for example. No WGA nod. (Breaking my rule just a little bit.) No critical wins whatsoever…
It will probably not even get that Original Screenplay nod from the Oscars either. Remember the Hamlet stat?
Yeah, who knows?! Maybe we ARE headed for another Hamlet situation… I guess we might be due one of those, or whatever. 🙂
Malek winning is fine. While I enjoyed Bohemian Rhapsody for its subject, the thought of it winning Best Picture would be like… https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b3dffbd9e4b6ebb081432a683d59c9c26d86db68916f667f52a21cb1cf3a25d6.gif
🙂 It would definitely not be my choice either… Not even close. (Although I certainly don’t hate the movie, like many people here, either.)
Roma frankly isn’t good enough to overcome the odds. It is another middling nominee in a middling crop. Standards are clearly collapsing.
The Favourite, we pray to thee, rescue us from madness on all sides.
What is nice is this won’t be a rubber stamped year! I think whichever is next (critics choice maybe?) Won’t be the same as this so it makes for the most exciting season from a suspense and not knowing what will win perspective!
Well, BR is definitely not winning there, since it’s not nominated for picture. 🙂
Though, to be fair, Green Book could..
Of course.
Why do you think Best Picture is confusing?
To me, Roma is the clear winner. Nobody hates that film. The only negative I hear – and it’s just a BS critique – that it’s a Netflix film.
Is that all you got?
When is the last time that a foreign film — or a film with sub-titles — won Best Picture?
Technically, The Artist.
It’s a weak argument. It has the visuals, the direction. And nothing else comes close. I can see that quite a few people don’t like Green Book. Roma can only be praised and admired. It’s a solid number 2 choice no matter what so it’s winning on a preferential ballot.
The arguments against ASIB are also weak.
Godfather I and II had whole sections that were subtitled.
Academic critics are on it for a lack of wokeness in not really exploring Cleo’s inner life and the history of indigenous Mexicans. That’s not likely to impact Oscar voters but wanted to point out that Netflix is not the only controversy. I think the beauty of its direction and cinematography will be what carries it over the top if it wins but lack of acting nods keeps it from being a lock imo.
And, in the industry, who do you think will hate ASIB, and why? I think they’re more likely to dislike/be unexcited about Roma, due to the Netflix thing, the foreign thing, etc.
good night for awards – proving once and for all how retarded they are and how little they reflect the art.
please edit the r-word
To retard is to go backwards, which is what awards bodies have done since Moonlight. I won’t edit anything.
then you mean retrograde
So we are really looking down the barrel of Cooper going 0-4 on Oscar night? Christ almighty.
He probably wished he wrote a line or two of “Shallow”
Cooper goes home with zero awards and MARK RONSON goes home with one. What a world.
I must say though, SHALLOW is deserving. It’s the highlight of the otherwise mediocre film. And the song itself is catchy and it’s just the right length to make you want to listen to it again and again
I guess we shouldn’t be that surprised that Bohemian Rhapsody and Green Book won over more worthy winners, because they are a non-American voting body. They don’t care about a 4th version of an “all-American story” in A Star is Born, or Spike Lee’s take on racism in the USA. I still don’t understand why The Favourite didn’t win, but I get it. Green Book is popular.
I still think the Oscar for BP will go now to either: Roma or Black Panther.
Roma and Black Panther with no acting noms for either. Hmmm
I still think Aparicio has a chance of being nominated for the Oscars
I think in place of Blunt
What’s scary is that Bohemian Rhapsody is nominated for the SAG Ensemble.
“or Spike Lee’s take on racism in the USA”
No, clearly they care more about international auteur Peter Farrelly’s take more.
It makes no sense does it.?
Ugh, Peter Farrelly is becoming a public enemy #1.
Or the Foreign Press prefers a white man’s take on race … rather than a black man’s. 😉
They prefer the one they makes them feel better about themselves, which would be the white guy’s take.
”Green Book” is a self-congratulatory & nostalgic movie that aims to make white audiences feel-good about race relations today; ”BlacKKKlansmen” is a film that ends with a coda that reminds audiences that racism is alive and well in America.
Looks like many races are wide open. Good more interesting.
Don’t jinx it! There’s still time for the xerox machines to do their thing… I’m sure things seemed just as interesting (at least in those categories) when Janney and Rockwell won the Globe last year.
Green Book – 3
Bohemian Rhapsody – 2
Roma – 2
The Wife – 1
Beale Street – 1
Vice – 1
The Favourite – 1
First Man – 1
Star Is Born – 1
Spider Man – 1
Black Panther – 0
BlackkKlansman – 0
Mary Poppins – 0
Did anyone ever think Mary Poppins was winning anything?
Actually quite a few had it for Score and Comedy Actress. I don’t think it will win any Oscars.
I was SO hoping that it would turn out to be a better movie than it actually was in the end. Strong start though.
Same here. I adore the original, so I was hoping for the best but The Greatest Showman was better all around.
I’d think a Disney musical, like ”Mary Poppins Returns,” had a better shot at winning score. Especially over the dramas. And if HFPA wanted to give a Globe somewhere to ”Black Panther,” it could’ve been here. Instead, it got skunked.
I just never thought Mary Poppins had any real shot because its box office output and cultural impact did not match the buzz. But in retrospect, you are right. I can see why a showy Disney movie is considered an easy win in the globes.
It was the big pundits’ favorite for score. And people were predicting Blunt, although Colman was the favorite there.
Well, call this night what you will, but these results portend a potentially suspenseful Oscar night. And after last year…
Whoa, Best Picture race is more confusing than ever!
It’s kinda beautiful. It’s like a Jackson Pollock painting. Let the drops fall where they may.
Did anybody at least mention the director of the film?
Nah… after Me 2 the industry is back to its full hypocrisy and will pretend this film directed itself.
The irony is that it often felt like the film WAS directed by itself. Or, you know, nobody at all.
I wonder what Bryan Singer’s thinking of all this (Globe wins; SAG & PGA noms). Whatever one thinks of Singer, he’s still the film’s director of record, and deserves some degree of credit.
Happy with the Colman, Close, Bale, Malek and Cuaron wins.
Best Pictures though…WTF
Right? I liked the winners so much, well Malek not so much but whatever but BP Drama comes and boom – everyone is like WTF. So disappointing.
Not to worry , ASIB will still win BP , Malek for BA and Cooper for BD
Time to get a reality check : if ASIB couldn’t win at the Golden Globes of all places, perception from now on will be that it won’t win anywhere else, either. I mean ffs it lost to Bohemian fokin Rhapsody.
Remember what Sasha always says though. Actors are the biggest branch of the Academy. Not Foreign journalists. Just saying. Cooper has friends.
Fair point and if it wins Ensemble at the SAG awards then it will be back in the game but in the meantime, the perception will be that it is in trouble.
That perception will create a sense of urgency and motivate the actors to vote for it ..this GG loss will be forgotten about in about a month ..in the greater scheme of things it’s merely a speed bump on the road to victory Yaaaawn
I think Black Panther or BlacKkKlansman are serious threats to win SAG Ensemble.
Even Crazy Rich Asians could surprise, that category tends to be a bit out of nowhere every now and then. My money is on Black Panther though.
It lost to a picture that has about ZERO chance to win BP oscar
Bo Rhap was merely a sensationalist choice by the 90 GG voters
And what does that tell you about the film that lost to THAT film ?
If it had lost to a contender like say Green book or the Favourite I may be concerned , but this is a fluke loss to Bo Rhap…..ASIB can quickly recover from this
IF it wins at least one key guild award (SAG ensemble / PGA / DGA), THEN it is back in the game. If it doesn’t then my hunch will be correct : it has never been as strong as its supporters and pundits made it seem.
PGA is its best shot of the three, and it has a decent shot at winning all three (though I still think Cuaron takes DGA and Director), but it could theoretically lose all three. SAG will be critical – it could theoretically not win anything there.
In my opinion, given how much the HFPA clearly loved BoRhap, Roma would have lost to that film as well, had it been eligible and nominated for drama. 🙂 (But of course I can’t support it with anything – but neither can anybody who disagrees support the opposite…)
I thought GG was going to coordinate to have Cooper win at least a BA or BD?
This was a fluke choice by the NINETY GGs voters , nothing to worry about
OR the realisation of the very real threat that is internal competition with one’s self when one is up for multiple awards. Truth is Cooper is at a disadvantage this season : he could get votes in all his categories but not enough in any single one of them while his competition is collecting votes in only one basket.
In actual fact the rise of malek a the favorite to win BA makes Cooper more likely to win BD as it stops the vote splitting
Valid argument but Cooper still has to win DGA or Bafta first and at the moment Cuaron emerged as the frontrunner for both. I’m sticking to my original take I’ve been sticking to since October : I don’t think Cooper will make the cut in BD and BAS at the Oscars. He WILL make the cut as an actor and producer though.
That’s what I said to them before (about splitting support for Cooper), and they called me “ridiculous”.
I got the same treatment, fret not.
How will the Globes be taken seriously after this? It was bad enough before, but they really went next level this time around.
A better awards show would be films that women made this year.
Roma is winning the Oscar guys
NEVER !
I think you might be right actually!
Absolutely hilarious: BoRha wins Best Picture??? Seems like this the worst reviewed winner in recent memory.
This is a year to forget. The show was terrible. Hosts were not good, the average of the two BP winners is below 60 Metascore. Close and Colman were the exceptions tonight. A mediocre show overall.
Worst set of winners ever: green book and Bohemian Rhapsody. This is just disgusting.
Tell me about it. They couldn’t have gone more conventional. And Green Book is at least a good movie (to me, anyway) but definitely inferior to a masterpiece liek The Favourite. As for Bohemian Rhapsody, I mean come on, they should be ashamed.
What makes it worse that both BP categories had instant classic masterpieces there, with brilliant writing, acting, directing and production values. Yes, I’m looking at you, Beale Street and The Favourite. Rewarding them in BP should have been no brainers.
THIS IS THE TYPE OF COMMENT WE NEED MORE OF. The actual great work was there but the conventional Hollywood bullshit non-the-less prevails. Disheartening, just disheartening.
So here’s the deal with Bohemian Rhapsody as far as I’m concerned : it wasn’t great but it was at least as good as ASIB. To me both are in the 6/6.5 range. If latter could be a top contender, former should have the chance, too.
Problem is FOR FUCKS SAKE VOTERS, there ARE 9s out there this year too, the fuck you are doing losing your shit over passable good(ish) films instead of the instant classics ?
You know how much I love your comments man but for me Bohemian Rhapsody is far worse than ASIB. It sort of makes Cooper’s film look like an auteur’s masterwork or something lol.
I guess my thing was that to me ASIB was a mess just like BH was. One could be better than the other but by the time I could have made such distinction, I was probably too frustrated with the films in front of me.
I mean I feel you. They’re both so weak next to their competition. That BP win to Bohemian Rhapsody, God, I’m disappointed and furious at the same time lol
That sound you hear is publicists for other Oscar contending films getting their “choice Bryan Singer anecdotes” ready to go for anonymous press leak season. Get the popcorn.
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Oh my god. They blew it. It was supposed to be black panther… I was on a roll. I can never win these things lol. And What a shitty awards season lol. Great speeches though! Gnite.
Omg, with each speech it was getting more and more of a performance for an Oscar win. Close and Malek’s were over the top.
So tonight was the ultimate troll night, with the HFPA awarding both Green Book and Bohemian Rhapsody their top two prizes and not giving two fucks about it. LOVE IT!
And sitting Cooper in the front freaking seat only to never get called out of it. What bastards
Right. But had Roma been in BP category, it would have won.
Over BR? When there was clearly SO much passion for it? I very much doubt it…
My guess the reason BR won was b/c ASiB (as well as others) was so weak. Not sure it would be the case had ROMA been in the mix. Your theory might be right (that BR is so strong) or mine could be right. We don’t really know.
Exactly. 🙂 It’s unclear which is true. If your theory is correct, it should become obvious soon, anyway, with ASIB not winning major stuff (Critics Choice, BAFTA, etc.). And Roma winning instead. My theory might take until the Oscars to prove right or wrong…
They split quite often, as I’m sure you’re aware. And this is with TWO picture categories in play…