USC Scripter Award Winners:
Feature Film
Women Talking
Novelist Miriam Toews and screenwriter Sarah Polley
Television
Slow Horses
Novelist Mick Herron and screenwriter Will Smith
USC Scripter Award Winners:
Feature Film
Women Talking
Novelist Miriam Toews and screenwriter Sarah Polley
Television
Slow Horses
Novelist Mick Herron and screenwriter Will Smith
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Woohoo!!!
Apart from Her, which, from what I remember, wasn’t seen by BAFTA voters (in any case, it got 5 Oscar nominations including picture and 0 BAFTA nominations, which is clearly very fishy), the other 43 Oscar screenplay winners since BAFTA has been a precursor and had more than 4 nominees in screenplay (and other categories) have all been nominated by them. This is what Women Talking is going up against, even if it wins WGA, which it’s probably going to. And this is an industry clue. Seems very hard to beat, if not almost impossible.
It’s also of note that its main competition wasn’t eligible for WGA or Scripter, thus making these wins feel more like confirmation that Women Talking is the strongest of the nominees other than All Quiet on the Western Front rather than commenting on the relative strength of either to each other (although I guess the same applies somewhat to the overall BAFTA voting instead of just the branch the other way around)
Excellent points! This category is definitely giving me some headaches…
Was Women Talking long listed at all (for any categories) at BAFTA?
If so, its absence even there could be chalked up as “fishy” ala Her.
Edit: Nevermind, it was indeed long listed for 4 categories including screenplay. Yep, it’s a worrisome stat. Quiet is a big threat.
Yeah, it doesn’t feel right to me to predict either of these. 🙂 It feels more right to predict Women Talking, I guess… But the logic is possibly a bit more with All Quiet, due to the BAFTA thing. (What’s troubling is that that’s its only screenplay win, no? And, like Ferdinand said, it may just be that the branch only just rejected Women Talking but the voters at large would have given it the win, who knows?! Or at least would have nominated it.) It’s a mess… (Oh, and there’s also the fact that Women Talking is the only one with a Globe screenplay nomination in the category. Not industry, but still a damn good clue.)
Yeah. Talk it out, talk it out. 🙂
🙂
You’re going with Women Talking, right? I think most people will. I still don’t know what I’m going to do.
It’s the safest choice as there are no signs for anything really emerging. I would imagine the women voters would coalesce around this entry. Not to mention she’s a known actor; actors like to vote for fellow actors in these categories. And yes AQ only won once and it didn’t even beat WT.
Yup… I agree Women Talking is the choice that makes the most sense. It’s also the one most precursors are pointing to. Although, going by strictly the industry evidence, All Quiet is the favorite, pretty clearly. The BAFTA snub is too big and it didn’t lose at WGA, since it was ineligible. It won as much as it could have, has the BAFTA BP thing on its side (that they almost always win at least 1 above the line at the Oscars – not to mention it has 7 wins there, not 2, like The Power of the Dog, although so did 1917, the most recent exception), we don’t know if it would have won or lost the WGA, so it’s only shown strength, no weakness (again, in the industry phase), whereas Women Talking showed big weakness by missing BAFTA altogether. It does have the SAG Ensemble nomination, which correlates very well with screenplay wins, but that’s not enough to counterbalance all that.
I’ve just finished up going through the categories, rules and numbers. (Save for the shorts – I said I wasn’t going to try to predict those myself anymore and am sticking to it. Might pock whatever pundits are saying on podcasts, the stuff I find they make the most compelling cases for.) Women Talking is my intuitive prediction, All Quiet is my numbers prediction. Those are different for me in a larger number of categories this year, compared to other years. 4 of them.
Thank God Top Gun:Maverick didn’t win this. Oh, that’s right, the nomination was withdrawn. I wonder why…
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was it? can you explain?
Deadline
I look with interest..as a gage based on callibre in this case across the board QUALITY of members reactions (taken not all of you who written below you part of that club :)) truly…
and their motivations as to whether they cheered on far left activist tripe or measured yet important progressive or let face it in case WOMEN TALKING STANDARD bearer for something society should resolved loooong time ago.
And doing it in a non pc way by telling adapting from a true story and moment in time.
So as you are all endorsing who9 commented here Scripter award to go to Sarah Polley’s commited work and passion on screenplay touches on necessarily provocative issue (that wouldnt be in todays day and age if gender intimidation not exist in workplaces today). This is an example of good intentions correct me if i wrong everyone (i think) fulfilling GOOD INTENTIONS AND NOT TO SATISFY ACTIVIST RADICAL TWITTERATI DRIVEN PC AGENDA would you all agree my assessment there?
Women Talking stays true to it source in detail and depth without subscribing to the WOKE crowd? as much temptation is there? really keen here your feedback i ask with open question.
I dont believe what i read across this race esp in case of adapted screenplay Sarah Polley’s effort was no other than to justly make people aware injustice at time women endured. without modernised analogies other than what viewers choose to take from their experience not forced on them when seeing the film i suppose.
I like to see it.. but priorities money is rare commodity as cost living pressures go up sooo like i see as i did earlier Cocaine Bear and other entertainment popcorn fodder to be ENTERTAINED NOT TO BE TAUGHT OR EDUCATED OR LECTURED or films in between that…
But not Women Talking it somewhere between ‘if i have time and money’ and priority mentality of mine.
I do (sorry Chase) vehemently respectfully to you as always disagree that Top Gun Maverick however deserved adapted screenplay oscar over ‘women talking’ cos at end of day this film went way and above expectations for audiences and critics enough why that? as definition of screenplay should be really in truth ‘ how well effectively film plays out on the screen’ if as some claim the writing was truly that bad and story was third rate then how is it so many bums on seats elevated it to phenomena status?
rewatchability can not always come with strong script i reckon more often than not…
But pity Top Gun Maverick everyone here…it getting fat less than it deserved crushed broadly by the morality crusade overall that Awards season pointy end is blindly embracing….at expense to most of us.
In absence of any impact Top Gun Maverick headed for massive snub clearly sadly…but predictably so…
Women Talking i back for the WGA. at least it exception bit like screenplay for CODA it does not amplify activist scewing or references focuses on time in moment as genuine screenplay for this type of film should be.
I do take note and issue however despite backing Women Talking cos my friends here all who i respect admire even that posted below (who i not blocked has to be said only tiny minoirty i add) that number of you below been critical of it quality as cinema it detailed writing aside.
Which only give rise to strong growing view troubling for the academy that very flawed structures cinematically even with strong narrative like Women Talking get rewarded cos they cater to moral demographic one way or the other..so oscar from now on hellbent and scripter and the guilds on accepting gaping flaws in visual technique or certain moments in film that over done- or inbalanced badly even (see EEAAO)…. of cinema at expense of true near flawless brilliant films to me lot others like Top Gun Maverick, Fabelmans, Elvis, Banshees…yea guillds and oscar let overlook cinematic visual gaping flaws in way film presented to us lower bar to the extreme.
SURE FIRE WAY FOR A RATINGS CRASH. You argue as important as topic of women talking…in narrative writing wise, could been the wiser thing to do give Top Gun Maverick one major award at least ? could it been better for Hollywood awards season going forward now and in future? would it really done more harm than good most who once tuned into oscars would’ve started take notice. a step perhaps towards tentatively but start is better than NONE AT ALL OR TURNING MORE PEOPLE POSSIBLY OUT OF THIS FARCE OF AWARDS SEASON OUTCOME THAT BOUT TO BE ENSHRINED IN OSCARS NEW AGE’ HISTORY ? What does academy have against motion picture phenomena and one of finest in last 30 years at LEAST lot us have seen in TOP GUN MAVERICK or other films past that callibre?
The answer is simple- look at overall outcome of guilds thus far. too much morality pandering overall NOT ENOUGH connectipon to most of us. we not in the past we here we are a force and OScar will RUE THE DAY THEY ONCE AND FOR ALL SOUGHT TO PRETEND WE ARE NOTHING TO THEM WITHOUT US FILM INDUSTRY NOT FLOURISH IT FACT…US IS NOT AT MOST 25 % of film goers it OTHER 75% YOU RECKLESSLY TO YOUR DETERIMENT FORGOTTEN ABOUT WHO HERE AGREES WITH ME HERE THOUGHTS?
Women Talking is a “well made” movie – yes, including Polley’s direction. I wish it was more of a player in the awards season.
Yes it sadly got crushed a little.
I really liked it, except the colours.
The colours and the extraneous song and dance numbers really bothered me.
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It was alright for the “dark” subject matter, plus I generally like “muted” colored cinematography.. 🙂
Eh, muted is one thing. To me, this was overdone. Very hard to distinguish different shades of gray.
Where did you see it?
Low projection levels are usually a problem these days in most “older” cinemas.
Saw it at the London Film Festival – at the Royal Festival Hall 🙂 Massive screen, 2700 seats. I’m pretty sure the projection was not the issue.
Anyway, it’s a minor gripe. The film was lovely. I just wish it worked a bit better visually.
I think they deliberately made it that way. Dark visuals help convey the story better.
You just can’t use some “TAR level” crystal-clear, silvery photography in there 🙂
Didn’t mind the colors. Weird that so many people did.
Let’s go!!!
Hooray – good to see Slow Horses winning as well.
Onwards to the Oscar!
Thank you Ryan, this is great news. 🙂
Well said.
Thank you Ryan. It’s truly great news.
I had almost given up on this film winning anything after She Said was completely shunned and all other awards were squarely focused on EEAO. Not that I dislike EEAO but Women Talking deserves so much more than it’s gotten. Really glad about this win.